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August 16, 2007 at 4:50 PM #76792August 16, 2007 at 5:20 PM #76690PerryChaseParticipant
As the regulars here know, I’m a proud card carrying liberal. And I support equal pay for women and other women’s causes.
I didn’t mean to be sexist. But I do think that there’s truth to this. I’ve seen a lot of women influence home purchases. I also see men who are executives but have to check with their wives for everything — like dinner on Friday. Maybe it’s just the people I know.
This is a sensitive issue but I’d be willing to bet that, if asked, Realtors would confirm this in confidence (so as not to offend their biggest customers).
For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s something inherent in the female sex, but it’s how women are socialized.
I think that men were also complicit in creating this bubble because they thought they could do little a sweat equity and become rich. Make the wife happy by giving her the house she wants; a little paint and elbow grease and the family gets to move on and on up the property ladder.
In a declining or stagnant market, my suspicion is that husbands would more likely restain their wives’ nesting urges (or the other way around as some posters wrote).
August 16, 2007 at 5:20 PM #76839PerryChaseParticipantAs the regulars here know, I’m a proud card carrying liberal. And I support equal pay for women and other women’s causes.
I didn’t mean to be sexist. But I do think that there’s truth to this. I’ve seen a lot of women influence home purchases. I also see men who are executives but have to check with their wives for everything — like dinner on Friday. Maybe it’s just the people I know.
This is a sensitive issue but I’d be willing to bet that, if asked, Realtors would confirm this in confidence (so as not to offend their biggest customers).
For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s something inherent in the female sex, but it’s how women are socialized.
I think that men were also complicit in creating this bubble because they thought they could do little a sweat equity and become rich. Make the wife happy by giving her the house she wants; a little paint and elbow grease and the family gets to move on and on up the property ladder.
In a declining or stagnant market, my suspicion is that husbands would more likely restain their wives’ nesting urges (or the other way around as some posters wrote).
August 16, 2007 at 5:20 PM #76810PerryChaseParticipantAs the regulars here know, I’m a proud card carrying liberal. And I support equal pay for women and other women’s causes.
I didn’t mean to be sexist. But I do think that there’s truth to this. I’ve seen a lot of women influence home purchases. I also see men who are executives but have to check with their wives for everything — like dinner on Friday. Maybe it’s just the people I know.
This is a sensitive issue but I’d be willing to bet that, if asked, Realtors would confirm this in confidence (so as not to offend their biggest customers).
For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s something inherent in the female sex, but it’s how women are socialized.
I think that men were also complicit in creating this bubble because they thought they could do little a sweat equity and become rich. Make the wife happy by giving her the house she wants; a little paint and elbow grease and the family gets to move on and on up the property ladder.
In a declining or stagnant market, my suspicion is that husbands would more likely restain their wives’ nesting urges (or the other way around as some posters wrote).
August 16, 2007 at 6:34 PM #76828ucodegenParticipant“It’s an old stereotype but true,” said Richard Peterson, a psychiatrist who specializes in investment psychology. “Women access their emotional center,” tapping into how they feel about a purchase. Men typically don’t. Turns out, he added, those emotions lead to better decision-making.
When enough people do the same thing, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy… until the market behavior shifts. This is why “technical analysis” works for quite a while until it doesn’t, at which time it fails spectacularly. Witness also all the ‘models’ that companies were using for investment in CDOs and MBS(s).
August 16, 2007 at 6:34 PM #76857ucodegenParticipant“It’s an old stereotype but true,” said Richard Peterson, a psychiatrist who specializes in investment psychology. “Women access their emotional center,” tapping into how they feel about a purchase. Men typically don’t. Turns out, he added, those emotions lead to better decision-making.
When enough people do the same thing, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy… until the market behavior shifts. This is why “technical analysis” works for quite a while until it doesn’t, at which time it fails spectacularly. Witness also all the ‘models’ that companies were using for investment in CDOs and MBS(s).
August 16, 2007 at 6:34 PM #76708ucodegenParticipant“It’s an old stereotype but true,” said Richard Peterson, a psychiatrist who specializes in investment psychology. “Women access their emotional center,” tapping into how they feel about a purchase. Men typically don’t. Turns out, he added, those emotions lead to better decision-making.
When enough people do the same thing, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy… until the market behavior shifts. This is why “technical analysis” works for quite a while until it doesn’t, at which time it fails spectacularly. Witness also all the ‘models’ that companies were using for investment in CDOs and MBS(s).
August 16, 2007 at 7:22 PM #76718TheBreezeParticipant“Considering the antagonism some men have toward women, I’m surprised that those men are married to women. It seems like they would be happier as homosexuals, mated with their own kind.”
If I’m not mistaken, PC has admitted to a special affection for the brown eye.
August 16, 2007 at 7:22 PM #76837TheBreezeParticipant“Considering the antagonism some men have toward women, I’m surprised that those men are married to women. It seems like they would be happier as homosexuals, mated with their own kind.”
If I’m not mistaken, PC has admitted to a special affection for the brown eye.
August 16, 2007 at 7:22 PM #76866TheBreezeParticipant“Considering the antagonism some men have toward women, I’m surprised that those men are married to women. It seems like they would be happier as homosexuals, mated with their own kind.”
If I’m not mistaken, PC has admitted to a special affection for the brown eye.
August 17, 2007 at 12:07 AM #76809citydwellerParticipantPardon my ignorance, but what do STJ and NFP stand for?
August 17, 2007 at 12:07 AM #76955citydwellerParticipantPardon my ignorance, but what do STJ and NFP stand for?
August 17, 2007 at 12:07 AM #76929citydwellerParticipantPardon my ignorance, but what do STJ and NFP stand for?
August 17, 2007 at 2:10 AM #76964CardiffBaseballParticipantPerry and I probably could not be more different politically speaking, but he is correct, and this is not some wild stretch.
Anyone who has followed Ben’s blog with any regularity knows that what Perry posted is an ongoing theme over there. Anecdotal story after anecdotal story, about big dumb lug, who can’t say no the wife. In my 16 years of marriage (started at 22), my wife wins most every battle, because, frankly, I just don’t care about that much.
However I had to basically tell her a few times to “sit down and shut up” as regards her nesting instinct. (We moved here two years ago).
Now when I say “sit down and shut up” I don’t mean it literally, as she’d probably kick my ass. (she does crossfit with some navy seal dude). What I meant was a continual education process about just how stupid a mistake it would be to purchase, and eventually she trusted my stubborness.
She also sees the emotional side of a home more than I though many on this site do not fit that stereotype. We had to eat about 9K when I sold my house in Ohio (Nov. 2005) and at closing I had to sell some stock to pay the note. I was hoping to hold onto that stock for the long term but it was the only non retirement account investment that I had.
I hurt her feelings by saying something along the lines of “buying that house was the absolute stupidest thing I have ever done”. Of course I loved that house too, but I was just bitter about losing my only real asset. She saw it as her dream home (still pissed at me for moving us out here), where the kids had so many great memories, and in the case of our youngest it’s the only other home he remembers outside of the crapbox we rent now.
August 17, 2007 at 2:10 AM #76938CardiffBaseballParticipantPerry and I probably could not be more different politically speaking, but he is correct, and this is not some wild stretch.
Anyone who has followed Ben’s blog with any regularity knows that what Perry posted is an ongoing theme over there. Anecdotal story after anecdotal story, about big dumb lug, who can’t say no the wife. In my 16 years of marriage (started at 22), my wife wins most every battle, because, frankly, I just don’t care about that much.
However I had to basically tell her a few times to “sit down and shut up” as regards her nesting instinct. (We moved here two years ago).
Now when I say “sit down and shut up” I don’t mean it literally, as she’d probably kick my ass. (she does crossfit with some navy seal dude). What I meant was a continual education process about just how stupid a mistake it would be to purchase, and eventually she trusted my stubborness.
She also sees the emotional side of a home more than I though many on this site do not fit that stereotype. We had to eat about 9K when I sold my house in Ohio (Nov. 2005) and at closing I had to sell some stock to pay the note. I was hoping to hold onto that stock for the long term but it was the only non retirement account investment that I had.
I hurt her feelings by saying something along the lines of “buying that house was the absolute stupidest thing I have ever done”. Of course I loved that house too, but I was just bitter about losing my only real asset. She saw it as her dream home (still pissed at me for moving us out here), where the kids had so many great memories, and in the case of our youngest it’s the only other home he remembers outside of the crapbox we rent now.
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