Why I am leaving San Diego

[sdrealtor]

Enjoy it Brian. Its a rather normal suburb by all appearances. Stop at Big JOhn’s on Route 70 for a cheesesteak if you can. I know what is going on there are as most of my friends still live in that area and I visit 1 or 2 x’s a year. One of my friends ran for (and lost) Mayor.

UPenn is actually getting better as they spread their reach into West Philly and clean things up around there. The only thing worse is that Koch’s Deli probably isnt there anymore (one of the brothers died). Asked your brother, if he went to Penn he will know about Koch’s.

[Anonymous]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.[/quote]

Youra Nass –

Love the username ! It says it all. To each his own.

BTW, you’ve obviously never used the freeway on ramps east of downtown LA towards Pasadena. They have stop signs at the end of the 30-foot long on-ramp and about 15 feet from stop sign to the end of the lane in which to merge. Nothing remotely as dangerous in San Diego.[/quote]

Look, nobody likes to have their little bubble pricked, but the kind of senseless worship for somewhere that really has little to justify the real estate values experienced in recent times, is just plain silly. San Diego is OK comparatively speaking, but there’s nothing special about it. The weather is nice, but as soon as a cloud hovers near the sun, everyone is terrified, because they don’t want to face up to the truth. It’s classic Cinderella syndrome, and strong reactions against hearing the truth is so symptomatic of that. Hate me all want, but I have no special interest in saying anything other than what I truly believe to be the case. If everyone said, “Oh, you know its OK, it has its good and bad points like everywhere”, I can live with that …but making somewhere out to be paradise when it clearly isn’t is delusional, and then getting upset when told otherwise is childish.

[Anonymous]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.[/quote]

Youra Nass –

Love the username ! It says it all. To each his own.

BTW, you’ve obviously never used the freeway on ramps east of downtown LA towards Pasadena. They have stop signs at the end of the 30-foot long on-ramp and about 15 feet from stop sign to the end of the lane in which to merge. Nothing remotely as dangerous in San Diego.[/quote]

Look, nobody likes to have their little bubble pricked, but the kind of senseless worship for somewhere that really has little to justify the real estate values experienced in recent times, is just plain silly. San Diego is OK comparatively speaking, but there’s nothing special about it. The weather is nice, but as soon as a cloud hovers near the sun, everyone is terrified, because they don’t want to face up to the truth. It’s classic Cinderella syndrome, and strong reactions against hearing the truth is so symptomatic of that. Hate me all want, but I have no special interest in saying anything other than what I truly believe to be the case. If everyone said, “Oh, you know its OK, it has its good and bad points like everywhere”, I can live with that …but making somewhere out to be paradise when it clearly isn’t is delusional, and then getting upset when told otherwise is childish.

[Anonymous]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.[/quote]

Youra Nass –

Love the username ! It says it all. To each his own.

BTW, you’ve obviously never used the freeway on ramps east of downtown LA towards Pasadena. They have stop signs at the end of the 30-foot long on-ramp and about 15 feet from stop sign to the end of the lane in which to merge. Nothing remotely as dangerous in San Diego.[/quote]

Look, nobody likes to have their little bubble pricked, but the kind of senseless worship for somewhere that really has little to justify the real estate values experienced in recent times, is just plain silly. San Diego is OK comparatively speaking, but there’s nothing special about it. The weather is nice, but as soon as a cloud hovers near the sun, everyone is terrified, because they don’t want to face up to the truth. It’s classic Cinderella syndrome, and strong reactions against hearing the truth is so symptomatic of that. Hate me all want, but I have no special interest in saying anything other than what I truly believe to be the case. If everyone said, “Oh, you know its OK, it has its good and bad points like everywhere”, I can live with that …but making somewhere out to be paradise when it clearly isn’t is delusional, and then getting upset when told otherwise is childish.

[Anonymous]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.[/quote]

Youra Nass –

Love the username ! It says it all. To each his own.

BTW, you’ve obviously never used the freeway on ramps east of downtown LA towards Pasadena. They have stop signs at the end of the 30-foot long on-ramp and about 15 feet from stop sign to the end of the lane in which to merge. Nothing remotely as dangerous in San Diego.[/quote]

Look, nobody likes to have their little bubble pricked, but the kind of senseless worship for somewhere that really has little to justify the real estate values experienced in recent times, is just plain silly. San Diego is OK comparatively speaking, but there’s nothing special about it. The weather is nice, but as soon as a cloud hovers near the sun, everyone is terrified, because they don’t want to face up to the truth. It’s classic Cinderella syndrome, and strong reactions against hearing the truth is so symptomatic of that. Hate me all want, but I have no special interest in saying anything other than what I truly believe to be the case. If everyone said, “Oh, you know its OK, it has its good and bad points like everywhere”, I can live with that …but making somewhere out to be paradise when it clearly isn’t is delusional, and then getting upset when told otherwise is childish.

[Anonymous]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.[/quote]

Youra Nass –

Love the username ! It says it all. To each his own.

BTW, you’ve obviously never used the freeway on ramps east of downtown LA towards Pasadena. They have stop signs at the end of the 30-foot long on-ramp and about 15 feet from stop sign to the end of the lane in which to merge. Nothing remotely as dangerous in San Diego.[/quote]

Look, nobody likes to have their little bubble pricked, but the kind of senseless worship for somewhere that really has little to justify the real estate values experienced in recent times, is just plain silly. San Diego is OK comparatively speaking, but there’s nothing special about it. The weather is nice, but as soon as a cloud hovers near the sun, everyone is terrified, because they don’t want to face up to the truth. It’s classic Cinderella syndrome, and strong reactions against hearing the truth is so symptomatic of that. Hate me all want, but I have no special interest in saying anything other than what I truly believe to be the case. If everyone said, “Oh, you know its OK, it has its good and bad points like everywhere”, I can live with that …but making somewhere out to be paradise when it clearly isn’t is delusional, and then getting upset when told otherwise is childish.

[DWCAP]

After catching up on this thread WAY too late, I am going to throw my two cents into the discussion.

I think alot of the dislocation between ‘reasonability’ and ‘reality’ that is driving the OP out of SD is the way people, especially new buyer/households, shop for housing. Lets face it, new buyers make the market. The whole bubble was driven by falling interest rates and mortgage standards. The bust came when we ran out of willing bodies to take, and then pay for mortages. But new buyers are also some of the dumbest buyers around. Not always, but often. They get a first promotion, get engaged/married, graduate grad school, get pregnant, whatever; and then decide they need to buy a house. So the go out, look around alittle bit and then try to make the best buy they can. But there is no historical or economic relevance to this decision process, and a tremendous amount of emotional baggage. Coupled with a selfish and delusional RE industry that actually believes high prices are good, and a even more selfish and delusional Governemnt which constantly enables the industry to engage in this delusion, we get todays reality. Prices are high becuase they ‘always are’ and people dont want to spend the time or energy to figure out they are being gamed. This reality could be changed, but that would require a change in economic education, rational thinking, and fiscal policy. Good luck with that, there are too many stakeholders who stand to loose too much for any of that to happen.

[DWCAP]

After catching up on this thread WAY too late, I am going to throw my two cents into the discussion.

I think alot of the dislocation between ‘reasonability’ and ‘reality’ that is driving the OP out of SD is the way people, especially new buyer/households, shop for housing. Lets face it, new buyers make the market. The whole bubble was driven by falling interest rates and mortgage standards. The bust came when we ran out of willing bodies to take, and then pay for mortages. But new buyers are also some of the dumbest buyers around. Not always, but often. They get a first promotion, get engaged/married, graduate grad school, get pregnant, whatever; and then decide they need to buy a house. So the go out, look around alittle bit and then try to make the best buy they can. But there is no historical or economic relevance to this decision process, and a tremendous amount of emotional baggage. Coupled with a selfish and delusional RE industry that actually believes high prices are good, and a even more selfish and delusional Governemnt which constantly enables the industry to engage in this delusion, we get todays reality. Prices are high becuase they ‘always are’ and people dont want to spend the time or energy to figure out they are being gamed. This reality could be changed, but that would require a change in economic education, rational thinking, and fiscal policy. Good luck with that, there are too many stakeholders who stand to loose too much for any of that to happen.

[DWCAP]

After catching up on this thread WAY too late, I am going to throw my two cents into the discussion.

I think alot of the dislocation between ‘reasonability’ and ‘reality’ that is driving the OP out of SD is the way people, especially new buyer/households, shop for housing. Lets face it, new buyers make the market. The whole bubble was driven by falling interest rates and mortgage standards. The bust came when we ran out of willing bodies to take, and then pay for mortages. But new buyers are also some of the dumbest buyers around. Not always, but often. They get a first promotion, get engaged/married, graduate grad school, get pregnant, whatever; and then decide they need to buy a house. So the go out, look around alittle bit and then try to make the best buy they can. But there is no historical or economic relevance to this decision process, and a tremendous amount of emotional baggage. Coupled with a selfish and delusional RE industry that actually believes high prices are good, and a even more selfish and delusional Governemnt which constantly enables the industry to engage in this delusion, we get todays reality. Prices are high becuase they ‘always are’ and people dont want to spend the time or energy to figure out they are being gamed. This reality could be changed, but that would require a change in economic education, rational thinking, and fiscal policy. Good luck with that, there are too many stakeholders who stand to loose too much for any of that to happen.

[DWCAP]

After catching up on this thread WAY too late, I am going to throw my two cents into the discussion.

I think alot of the dislocation between ‘reasonability’ and ‘reality’ that is driving the OP out of SD is the way people, especially new buyer/households, shop for housing. Lets face it, new buyers make the market. The whole bubble was driven by falling interest rates and mortgage standards. The bust came when we ran out of willing bodies to take, and then pay for mortages. But new buyers are also some of the dumbest buyers around. Not always, but often. They get a first promotion, get engaged/married, graduate grad school, get pregnant, whatever; and then decide they need to buy a house. So the go out, look around alittle bit and then try to make the best buy they can. But there is no historical or economic relevance to this decision process, and a tremendous amount of emotional baggage. Coupled with a selfish and delusional RE industry that actually believes high prices are good, and a even more selfish and delusional Governemnt which constantly enables the industry to engage in this delusion, we get todays reality. Prices are high becuase they ‘always are’ and people dont want to spend the time or energy to figure out they are being gamed. This reality could be changed, but that would require a change in economic education, rational thinking, and fiscal policy. Good luck with that, there are too many stakeholders who stand to loose too much for any of that to happen.

[DWCAP]

After catching up on this thread WAY too late, I am going to throw my two cents into the discussion.

I think alot of the dislocation between ‘reasonability’ and ‘reality’ that is driving the OP out of SD is the way people, especially new buyer/households, shop for housing. Lets face it, new buyers make the market. The whole bubble was driven by falling interest rates and mortgage standards. The bust came when we ran out of willing bodies to take, and then pay for mortages. But new buyers are also some of the dumbest buyers around. Not always, but often. They get a first promotion, get engaged/married, graduate grad school, get pregnant, whatever; and then decide they need to buy a house. So the go out, look around alittle bit and then try to make the best buy they can. But there is no historical or economic relevance to this decision process, and a tremendous amount of emotional baggage. Coupled with a selfish and delusional RE industry that actually believes high prices are good, and a even more selfish and delusional Governemnt which constantly enables the industry to engage in this delusion, we get todays reality. Prices are high becuase they ‘always are’ and people dont want to spend the time or energy to figure out they are being gamed. This reality could be changed, but that would require a change in economic education, rational thinking, and fiscal policy. Good luck with that, there are too many stakeholders who stand to loose too much for any of that to happen.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the second of half of what DWCAP has said, and also a lot with some of the comments about SD being just another city. People take umbrage too quickly, and don’t realize that the first thing that hits out-of-towners is the barrage of propaganda about the life style. It insults one’s intelligence. I don’t blame the people who live here so much as those who deliberately perpetuate the hype. The irony of course is that they also have to live with the dream they created. But then perhaps some of them aren’t aware that’s what it is.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the second of half of what DWCAP has said, and also a lot with some of the comments about SD being just another city. People take umbrage too quickly, and don’t realize that the first thing that hits out-of-towners is the barrage of propaganda about the life style. It insults one’s intelligence. I don’t blame the people who live here so much as those who deliberately perpetuate the hype. The irony of course is that they also have to live with the dream they created. But then perhaps some of them aren’t aware that’s what it is.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the second of half of what DWCAP has said, and also a lot with some of the comments about SD being just another city. People take umbrage too quickly, and don’t realize that the first thing that hits out-of-towners is the barrage of propaganda about the life style. It insults one’s intelligence. I don’t blame the people who live here so much as those who deliberately perpetuate the hype. The irony of course is that they also have to live with the dream they created. But then perhaps some of them aren’t aware that’s what it is.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the second of half of what DWCAP has said, and also a lot with some of the comments about SD being just another city. People take umbrage too quickly, and don’t realize that the first thing that hits out-of-towners is the barrage of propaganda about the life style. It insults one’s intelligence. I don’t blame the people who live here so much as those who deliberately perpetuate the hype. The irony of course is that they also have to live with the dream they created. But then perhaps some of them aren’t aware that’s what it is.

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