Why I am leaving San Diego

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=sdrealtor] Not saying its right or wrong but again “it is what it is”.[/quote]

sdr hit the nail on the head.

[quote=jstoesz]
Yup it is not supply and demand I am frustrated with. It is with the financial irresponsibility of my peers. And that has not even begun to correct.[/quote]

Based on the data it appears to me that although the financial irresponsibility has not declined to upper-Midwestern levels, current cost ratios indicate that SD buyers are less financially irresponsible today than through most of the past 33 years. In that sense it has improved, just not to the point where it meets the threshold of sensible for those of us who grew up in the Midwest. I am alot like you jstoesz, I think SoCal prices are nuts. But, it is what it is. I don’t think we will see prices normalize to something resembling reasonable ratios observed in other places (e.g. Minneapolis or Dallas or Kansas City) in my lifetime.

[protorio]

[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]

This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.

San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.

This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.

[protorio]

[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]

This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.

San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.

This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.

[protorio]

[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]

This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.

San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.

This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.

[protorio]

[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]

This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.

San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.

This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.

[protorio]

[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]

This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.

San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.

This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.

[Anonymous]

My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.

[Anonymous]

My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.

[Anonymous]

My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.

[Anonymous]

My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.

[Anonymous]

My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. San Diego is just a smaller version of LA, but with more dangerous ramps onto freeways. The Gaslamp District, Italian district, and Old Town just don’t feel real. The atmosphere is more touristy than lived-in. IMHO the Bay area is the only place in California that has a good feel factor. When people don’t feel the need to convince themselves of the greatness, or otherwise of a place then the place is accepted just for what it is …good, or bad. When the reverse is happening it’s because there remains this nagging doubt. It as if soCal is in a tussle with itself over it’s identity.

[protorio]

[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]

This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!

Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.

[protorio]

[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]

This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!

Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.

[protorio]

[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]

This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!

Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.

[protorio]

[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]

This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!

Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.

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