Why do rural folks vote Republicans?

[UCGal]

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I assume that the OP meant this as a simple trolling post. Do you really believe that the median Democrat has a higher IQ or higher education level than the median Republican?

Would also be interesting to cross correlate with how many of the ones that are Grads had ‘daddy’ pay for the education versus paying for it themselves.. and break that down into party affiliation.

It would also be interesting to see if there was a liberal arts vs hard science breakdown on the education vs political party.

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I think my husband and I would skew your theory…
My parents paid for my undergraduate degree – but insisted it be in something I could get a job in… (BSEE).

I put myself through grad school. (Well, my employer picked up part of it – I went nights while working full time.)

So I had “daddy” pay for my education, studied a math/science field, yet still turned out liberal.

My husband put himself through college in Architecture… he’s also a liberal.

And we plan on doing for our kids what my parents did – pay for the education, with veto power on the majors… they only get the free ride if they get a degree that will help with employment and if they maintain the GPA.

As far as people voting against their best interests – the book “What’s the matter with Kansas” looks at this very closely – and how the GOP party changed to get new “values voters”. A term which has always offended me since I consider the values of compassion and social concern to be valid values as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Thanks for your usual thoughtful and cogent response.

I mentioned on another thread how horrified I was watching Palin and her celebration of ignorance.

I remember a Jesuit priest describing Faith and Reason as the two wings that were necessary to lift you. I don’t know at what point intelligence and spirituality gave way to ignorance and religiosity in the Republican Party, but this is what we’re left with now.

We need to find our way back to those core beliefs that defined us and recognize that the Reagan Revolution is over. We need to recognize that ideas do matter, as well as finding the flexibility necessary to reach out to those groups that we’ve managed to alienate and disenfranchise.

Allowing the Palins of the party to continue to dominate will sound the death knell of the GOP. This election and these last eight years are a clarion call we’d better heed. Or else.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Thanks for your usual thoughtful and cogent response.

I mentioned on another thread how horrified I was watching Palin and her celebration of ignorance.

I remember a Jesuit priest describing Faith and Reason as the two wings that were necessary to lift you. I don’t know at what point intelligence and spirituality gave way to ignorance and religiosity in the Republican Party, but this is what we’re left with now.

We need to find our way back to those core beliefs that defined us and recognize that the Reagan Revolution is over. We need to recognize that ideas do matter, as well as finding the flexibility necessary to reach out to those groups that we’ve managed to alienate and disenfranchise.

Allowing the Palins of the party to continue to dominate will sound the death knell of the GOP. This election and these last eight years are a clarion call we’d better heed. Or else.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Thanks for your usual thoughtful and cogent response.

I mentioned on another thread how horrified I was watching Palin and her celebration of ignorance.

I remember a Jesuit priest describing Faith and Reason as the two wings that were necessary to lift you. I don’t know at what point intelligence and spirituality gave way to ignorance and religiosity in the Republican Party, but this is what we’re left with now.

We need to find our way back to those core beliefs that defined us and recognize that the Reagan Revolution is over. We need to recognize that ideas do matter, as well as finding the flexibility necessary to reach out to those groups that we’ve managed to alienate and disenfranchise.

Allowing the Palins of the party to continue to dominate will sound the death knell of the GOP. This election and these last eight years are a clarion call we’d better heed. Or else.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Thanks for your usual thoughtful and cogent response.

I mentioned on another thread how horrified I was watching Palin and her celebration of ignorance.

I remember a Jesuit priest describing Faith and Reason as the two wings that were necessary to lift you. I don’t know at what point intelligence and spirituality gave way to ignorance and religiosity in the Republican Party, but this is what we’re left with now.

We need to find our way back to those core beliefs that defined us and recognize that the Reagan Revolution is over. We need to recognize that ideas do matter, as well as finding the flexibility necessary to reach out to those groups that we’ve managed to alienate and disenfranchise.

Allowing the Palins of the party to continue to dominate will sound the death knell of the GOP. This election and these last eight years are a clarion call we’d better heed. Or else.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Thanks for your usual thoughtful and cogent response.

I mentioned on another thread how horrified I was watching Palin and her celebration of ignorance.

I remember a Jesuit priest describing Faith and Reason as the two wings that were necessary to lift you. I don’t know at what point intelligence and spirituality gave way to ignorance and religiosity in the Republican Party, but this is what we’re left with now.

We need to find our way back to those core beliefs that defined us and recognize that the Reagan Revolution is over. We need to recognize that ideas do matter, as well as finding the flexibility necessary to reach out to those groups that we’ve managed to alienate and disenfranchise.

Allowing the Palins of the party to continue to dominate will sound the death knell of the GOP. This election and these last eight years are a clarion call we’d better heed. Or else.

[Dukehorn]

UCGal,

I totally agree. I think a graduate education (whether liberal arts or hard science–I have both) will be more of an indicator than a split. You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.

The split actually might be between (a) business and (b) liberals arts and the sciences with regard to social conservatism. You don’t have to deal with “nasty” science classes that might contend with your view of how the world came about or with “evil” philosophy classes that challenge you to think about your place in the world.

[Dukehorn]

UCGal,

I totally agree. I think a graduate education (whether liberal arts or hard science–I have both) will be more of an indicator than a split. You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.

The split actually might be between (a) business and (b) liberals arts and the sciences with regard to social conservatism. You don’t have to deal with “nasty” science classes that might contend with your view of how the world came about or with “evil” philosophy classes that challenge you to think about your place in the world.

[Dukehorn]

UCGal,

I totally agree. I think a graduate education (whether liberal arts or hard science–I have both) will be more of an indicator than a split. You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.

The split actually might be between (a) business and (b) liberals arts and the sciences with regard to social conservatism. You don’t have to deal with “nasty” science classes that might contend with your view of how the world came about or with “evil” philosophy classes that challenge you to think about your place in the world.

[Dukehorn]

UCGal,

I totally agree. I think a graduate education (whether liberal arts or hard science–I have both) will be more of an indicator than a split. You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.

The split actually might be between (a) business and (b) liberals arts and the sciences with regard to social conservatism. You don’t have to deal with “nasty” science classes that might contend with your view of how the world came about or with “evil” philosophy classes that challenge you to think about your place in the world.

[Dukehorn]

UCGal,

I totally agree. I think a graduate education (whether liberal arts or hard science–I have both) will be more of an indicator than a split. You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.

The split actually might be between (a) business and (b) liberals arts and the sciences with regard to social conservatism. You don’t have to deal with “nasty” science classes that might contend with your view of how the world came about or with “evil” philosophy classes that challenge you to think about your place in the world.

[DWCAP]

[quote=CostaMesa]FWIW:

Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.

So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.

Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.

Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.

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If I am one of those who has insulted you, I would like to hear how I did it.

[DWCAP]

[quote=CostaMesa]FWIW:

Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.

So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.

Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.

Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.

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If I am one of those who has insulted you, I would like to hear how I did it.

[DWCAP]

[quote=CostaMesa]FWIW:

Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.

So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.

Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.

Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.

[/quote]

If I am one of those who has insulted you, I would like to hear how I did it.

[DWCAP]

[quote=CostaMesa]FWIW:

Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.

So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.

Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.

Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.

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If I am one of those who has insulted you, I would like to hear how I did it.

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