Why do Majority of Jews vote Democratic?

[spdrun]

AN … wrong.

Northern European jobless rates are broadly comparable to the US, some lower, some higher, but not dramatically different.
US: 5.9%

Switzerland: 3.1%
Norway: 3.7%
Denmark: 4.0%
Germany: 4.9%
Sweden: 7.2%
Netherlands: 8.0%
Belgium: 8.6%
France: 10.2%

And at least they have a decent welfare system to support the unemployed, as well as an inexpensive or free university system to allow them educational opportunities.

[njtosd]

[quote=spdrun]Sadly, I had the great misfortune of being born in the US. Fortunately, I’m a dual citizen so this will be corrected next year.

I don’t need drugs. I need a one-way plane ticket, an apartment lease in Berlin or Prague for a half year. Every day spent outside of the US is like a breath of fresh air.

Most Americans have never stuck their noses outside of North America — only something like 35% even hold passports, so they don’t know what they’re missing being stuck here.[/quote]

Happy people are happy wherever they are, and the opposite is true, too. I, for one, have stuck my nose out many a time. My husband worked for a large French company and has travelled more than most. Both of us prefer it here (by far). Europe is interesting for a visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there, as the saying goes.

[an]

Why limit to just northern Europe? What about southern Europe?

[spdrun]

Because you’re dealing with fairly well-run countries with incomes and levels of corruption broadly comparable to the US.

[zk]

[quote=njtosd][quote=spdrun]Sadly, I had the great misfortune of being born in the US. Fortunately, I’m a dual citizen so this will be corrected next year.

I don’t need drugs. I need a one-way plane ticket, an apartment lease in Berlin or Prague for a half year. Every day spent outside of the US is like a breath of fresh air.

Most Americans have never stuck their noses outside of North America — only something like 35% even hold passports, so they don’t know what they’re missing being stuck here.[/quote]

Happy people are happy wherever they are, and the opposite is true, too. I, for one, have stuck my nose out many a time. My husband worked for a large French company and has travelled more than most. Both of us prefer it here (by far). Europe is interesting for a visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there, as the saying goes.[/quote]

Yeah, makes me want to trot out this parable again:

An old fella is sitting on his porch. A guy who’s thinking about moving to the area is driving by and stops to ask the old guy about the area. “What are the people like here?” The old guy asks in return, “How did you find the people where you came from?” The response is, “I found them to be generous, caring, kind, and fun.” The old guy says, “I think you’ll find them the same way here.” A different guy drives up later and asks the old guy the same question, and the old guy asks him the same question he asked the first guy. The second guy says, “I found them mean, backstabbing, and phony.” The old guy says, “I think you’ll find them the same way here.”

The same probably applies to what country you live in.

Sure, if you move from a disease-infested, famine-stricken, war-torn third-world country to a first-world country, you might be happier. But I doubt that a move from the U.S. to Europe would be enough to overcome the level of bitterness and anger that spdrun seems to be experiencing.

[spdrun]

I think it would be. It’s much easier, and legal!, to buy “friendship” abroad than in the US. Governments in Netherlands, Germany, and Czech Republic don’t care what consenting adults do with their time and money, unlike the US which is all up in people’s business. Except for Nevada, which is a stinking shithole in many other ways.

Being able to be with a hooker on a weekly basis, no dating game, no commitment would for sure relax me.

But buying friendship is less needed in (say) Germany, since people have enough free time to participate in things like hiking clubs where it’s easy to meet people of the correct gender.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]I think it would be. It’s much easier, and legal!, to buy “friendship” abroad than in the US. Governments in Netherlands, Germany, and Czech Republic don’t care what consenting adults do with their time and money, unlike the US which is all up in people’s business. Except for Nevada, which is a stinking shithole in many other ways.

Being able to be with a hooker on a weekly basis, no dating game, no commitment would for sure relax me.

But buying friendship is less needed in (say) Germany, since people have enough free time to participate in things like hiking clubs where it’s easy to meet people of the correct gender.[/quote]

I’m just curious though.. If you hate it so much here in the U.S. and think things are really much better off in Europe, why haven’t you moved there yet? You’re probably single and don’t need to worry about relocating an entire family right now. Seems like it’s a no brainer based how you feel and how unlikely things are going to change drastically here in the foreseeable future…

[spdrun]

Because I have family here whom I love. No wife or kids, but still have a family.

And because there are still a lot of houses under foreclosure on the East Coast. Buy a few more, clean any skels living there out, rent them to humans, and be set with an income for life, able to live anywhere in the world.

That’s what I value above all else. Independence from anyone telling me what to do, except those people whom I might CHOOSE to give a flying rip about.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Because I have family here whom I love. And because there are still a lot of houses under foreclosure on the East Coast. Buy a few more, clean ’em out, and be set with an income for life, able to live anywhere in the world.

That’s what I value above all else. Independence from any prick or cunt telling me what to do.[/quote]

So this is interesting.

You generally hate america. But want to enjoy the financial opportunities america offers, which based on your statement is better than europe. Ok, so what it boils down to primarily is… money….You can make more money in america…

Interesting that you rail against people that are “slaves to an american corporation”, but yet aren’t you saying your pretty much a slave to the american economic system, since it presents you a much better opportunity that you can’t get in europe, and hence why you end up having to “put up with” all the things about america that apparently you really really hate?

Interesting. See, I work for a company right now. And if I really really hated it that much to the degree that you do with america, I would just quit, like I have before…. Can you, though, quit America?

[spdrun]

But, unlike most Americans, my main goal isn’t success or money. It’s simply creating a comfortable, controlled environment for myself where I have to do a minimal amount of work and live in a state of semi-retirement till I die 40-50 years from now.

As in: creating my own cradle to grave socialist state.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]But, unlike most Americans, my main goal isn’t success or money. It’s simply creating a comfortable, controlled environment for myself where I have to do a minimal amount of work.[/quote]

But if that really is your only goal, and by your own admission, Europe has the same equal opportunities, then you shouldn’t *need* america to create a comfotable, controlled environment for yourself where you have to do a minimal amount of work.. In fact, since, by your own admissions, in Europe the public entitlement benefits and social programs are sooo much better than here in America, you should be able to do even less work over there, because after all the government over there will end up taking care of you more than our government does here…And since Europe also has good tech companies, and IT is also in demand there. From your professional perspective, it should be the same there too, if not easier… Right?

[spdrun]

I don’t want to work in IT. Requires constant learning which takes too much effort.

Ideally, I’d be a full-time landlord, a carpenter, and/or a plumber. I’m tired of working with my brain — I’d prefer to use my hands strictly.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]I don’t want to work in IT. Ideally, I’d be a full-time landlord, a carpenter, and/or a plumber. I’m tired of working with my brain — I’d prefer to use my hands strictly.[/quote]

Ok, but in Europe, you also have plenty of foreclosures all over the place. A few pigglords here recently stated they went to France and bought homes in France for a pretty good deal.. Spain is in the trenches right now too. And there’s probably a dozen or so other pockets of high foreclosure rate there too.. You could do the exact same thing there… Do your IT to get your paycheck in Europe, and then use your paycheck to buy foreclosures over there too. What’s the difference?

[spdrun]

Because I’m too tired and burnt out to use my brain any longer. I’d rather work with my hands for 8 hr per day, go home, and fall asleep on the couch with a beer in my hand and a cigarette in the ashtray.

BTW, sounds like the French do more short sales and fewer foreclosures:
http://www.connexionfrance.com/french-foreclosures-rarer-than-in-us-10064-news-article.html

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Because I’m too fucking tired and burnt out to use my brain any longer.[/quote]

But you’re probably younger than me!!!! Didn’t you say you were generation Y awhile ago????

Come on man..Not to rain on your parade. But being “too fucking tired and burnt out” is hardly and excuse for you to be perpetually pissed off because you’re forced to live in a place where you can’t stand how the majority of the things operate. I have to commend you that you are able to put up with it. If it was me, and I had to live in a place that I hated that much, I’d go insane.

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