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October 19, 2007 at 6:05 PM #90261October 19, 2007 at 6:08 PM #90253Allan from FallbrookParticipant
I’m not entirely sure I understand the need for a Swiss bank account.
All of the major international players, including Swiss banks, have branches in the Caribbean.
While I do understand the “white glove” nature of private Swiss banking, how does this equate to wealth protection?
Also, you’ve been asked a few times for the name of the bank in question, but that answer has not been forthcoming. Would you mind passing that along?
October 19, 2007 at 6:08 PM #90263Allan from FallbrookParticipantI’m not entirely sure I understand the need for a Swiss bank account.
All of the major international players, including Swiss banks, have branches in the Caribbean.
While I do understand the “white glove” nature of private Swiss banking, how does this equate to wealth protection?
Also, you’ve been asked a few times for the name of the bank in question, but that answer has not been forthcoming. Would you mind passing that along?
October 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM #90264nostradamusParticipantSwiss banks have branches in the U.S. as well. You don’t need to go there to open an account.
The biggest bank in Switzerland is UBS:
The 2nd biggest is Credit Suisse:
October 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM #90273nostradamusParticipantSwiss banks have branches in the U.S. as well. You don’t need to go there to open an account.
The biggest bank in Switzerland is UBS:
The 2nd biggest is Credit Suisse:
October 19, 2007 at 9:08 PM #90272CoronitaParticipantCredit Suisse:
Uh, and you folks trust this institution?…I mean, you guys do know who Frank Quattrone is, don't you? You know, the guy that almost went to jail, but dodged the bullet…You guys talk about the real estate cesspool. Nothing compared to what sort of sh!t happened here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Quattrone
Talk to relatives and friends that worked in the ipo and m&a world under his watch..Or at least talk to the ones that still are willing to talk. He's scott free now.
October 19, 2007 at 9:08 PM #90281CoronitaParticipantCredit Suisse:
Uh, and you folks trust this institution?…I mean, you guys do know who Frank Quattrone is, don't you? You know, the guy that almost went to jail, but dodged the bullet…You guys talk about the real estate cesspool. Nothing compared to what sort of sh!t happened here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Quattrone
Talk to relatives and friends that worked in the ipo and m&a world under his watch..Or at least talk to the ones that still are willing to talk. He's scott free now.
October 19, 2007 at 9:16 PM #90274New_RenterParticipantI suspect Running Bear is more talking about the smaller private (sometimes family-owned) banks in Switzerland. The three I know about are Julius Baer, Vontobel, and Banque Privee Edmond de Rothschild. There are a number of others I’m sure with stellar reputations. I was just curious as to which one met his/her seemingly strict criteria.
The reasons for putting some funds there stem from a kind of survivalist type of mentality, and as a hedge against a hopefully unlikely massive depression or U.S. bankruptcy. During periods of geopolitical upheaval the Swiss Franc tends to outperform as it serves as a flight to safety. These small swiss banks have little to no exposure in the U.S. markets.
October 19, 2007 at 9:16 PM #90283New_RenterParticipantI suspect Running Bear is more talking about the smaller private (sometimes family-owned) banks in Switzerland. The three I know about are Julius Baer, Vontobel, and Banque Privee Edmond de Rothschild. There are a number of others I’m sure with stellar reputations. I was just curious as to which one met his/her seemingly strict criteria.
The reasons for putting some funds there stem from a kind of survivalist type of mentality, and as a hedge against a hopefully unlikely massive depression or U.S. bankruptcy. During periods of geopolitical upheaval the Swiss Franc tends to outperform as it serves as a flight to safety. These small swiss banks have little to no exposure in the U.S. markets.
October 19, 2007 at 10:40 PM #90280nostradamusParticipantYes, I’m sure Chief Running Bear was referring to one of the smaller private banks. After reading his posts I looked into it quite a bit but am still on the fence about getting an offshore account. I’m being conservative with most of my assets in CDs at the moment but this sucks when you think of taxes and the ever-sinking dollar. Foreign stocks are an option and I’ve done well with them in the past but the volatility of China and other markets scares me back to square one.
This is a 3-glasses-of-wine post BTW.
October 19, 2007 at 10:40 PM #90289nostradamusParticipantYes, I’m sure Chief Running Bear was referring to one of the smaller private banks. After reading his posts I looked into it quite a bit but am still on the fence about getting an offshore account. I’m being conservative with most of my assets in CDs at the moment but this sucks when you think of taxes and the ever-sinking dollar. Foreign stocks are an option and I’ve done well with them in the past but the volatility of China and other markets scares me back to square one.
This is a 3-glasses-of-wine post BTW.
October 20, 2007 at 6:34 AM #9029234f3f3fParticipantShort of visiting Credit Suisse in Zurich, is there a way online to open a Swiss account and convert US$ to Euros?
You can try through their New York branch. They probably won’t talk to you in Zurich. I was advised to leave the US borders anytime I needed to give Credit Suisse instructions. On a visit to Zurich I was grilled by a US airline as to the purpose of my visit (none of their damn business). Banking has really tightened up in Europe as a result of US pressure to fight terrorism, and has become paranoid. At least it was a couple of years ago. It may have cooled down now. You have to remember that the point of a Swiss account was anonymity, and privacy laws which has now been eroded. If you just want a foreign bank account banks like Citi have branches in London and are probably more flexible. Credit Suisse does not offer savings accounts, only money markets, and some are waiting to see if they have any exposure to the subprime mess. Citi is offering 6.27% on a flexible savings account. But remember there is not usually FDIC insurance in other countries. Aside from all that, I’m not sure converting dollars to Euros is such a good idea in the present climate. The horse has bolted.
October 20, 2007 at 6:34 AM #9030234f3f3fParticipantShort of visiting Credit Suisse in Zurich, is there a way online to open a Swiss account and convert US$ to Euros?
You can try through their New York branch. They probably won’t talk to you in Zurich. I was advised to leave the US borders anytime I needed to give Credit Suisse instructions. On a visit to Zurich I was grilled by a US airline as to the purpose of my visit (none of their damn business). Banking has really tightened up in Europe as a result of US pressure to fight terrorism, and has become paranoid. At least it was a couple of years ago. It may have cooled down now. You have to remember that the point of a Swiss account was anonymity, and privacy laws which has now been eroded. If you just want a foreign bank account banks like Citi have branches in London and are probably more flexible. Credit Suisse does not offer savings accounts, only money markets, and some are waiting to see if they have any exposure to the subprime mess. Citi is offering 6.27% on a flexible savings account. But remember there is not usually FDIC insurance in other countries. Aside from all that, I’m not sure converting dollars to Euros is such a good idea in the present climate. The horse has bolted.
October 20, 2007 at 6:48 AM #9029634f3f3fParticipantNew_Renter, there are dozens of small banks in Zurich, many with good reputations. I spoke with Lloyds there, who are a respectable UK retail bank. They are situated just behind Credit Suisse (Paradeplatz Sq) but have a much smaller office, and are probably not under the same pressure as the big guys. Just remember though that Swiss accounts are a red flag. Singapore is where all the Swiss money is going.
October 20, 2007 at 6:48 AM #9030634f3f3fParticipantNew_Renter, there are dozens of small banks in Zurich, many with good reputations. I spoke with Lloyds there, who are a respectable UK retail bank. They are situated just behind Credit Suisse (Paradeplatz Sq) but have a much smaller office, and are probably not under the same pressure as the big guys. Just remember though that Swiss accounts are a red flag. Singapore is where all the Swiss money is going.
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