What is the equivalent home in San Diego to this $158k home in Austin?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=EconProf]bg: I believe the OP is considering a for-sale house in Austin to a similar house in a similar neighborhood in San Diego. So the issue we are discussing is what taxes would be paid on each. Accordingly, including Prop 13-advantaged CA taxpayers is not relevant to the decision.
As to your Mello Roos fees, yes, they can really become as high as you state, and that further makes the Austin house look better in comparison. Of course, they don’t apply to older houses in older neighborhoods.[/quote]

Yes, it is true that the OP would not be “Prop-13 advantaged” if he bought ANY property today in CA.

It is also true that none of the the areas within an 8-mile radius of Dtn SD (as comps for the Austin property) have Mello-Roos bonds attached to them.

So those two issues are not relevant to the OP’s purchase decision. What IS relevant is that he can get a similar home in Austin for 1/2 the purchase price of Valencia Park (92114) and will have to pay about 255% of the property tax of the VP property (2.75% v. 1.2%).

High appreciation, or any appreciation at all, is not likely in either case, for the foreseeable future. Historically, residential real property in TX does not appreciate well, if at all, due to ramifications of the “TX Homestead Law:”

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PR/htm/PR.41.htm

The Homestead Exemption in Texas prevents the homestead from being subject to attachment, execution or forced sale by creditors. The homeowner is protected if they creditor does not fall in one of the nine exemptions. The exemptions are entitled to the sale of the property in order to repay the debt of the homeowner.

The nine exemptions include:

Purchase Money Liens: A purchase money lien is the lien that secures the purchase price on the property. These are not subject to the homestead exemption and the homestead may be foreclosed on upon default of the homeowner.

Ad Valorem Taxes: An Ad Valorem Tax lien is attached to the property the first year that property taxes are owed. The homestead may be sold to satisfy delinquent tax debt.

Mechanics and Materialman Liens: These liens are connected with improvements that are performed to the homestead. They are valid against the homestead if the written contract was executed before the commencement of improvements and/or delivery of supplies, if both the husband and the wife signed the contract and if the contract was properly recorded.

Owelty of Partition Lien: An Owelty of Partition lien arises when there is an unequal division of the property in co-tenancy. For example, if there is an unequal division of the homestead in a divorce where the land on which the family lives is larger than the remaining portion of the land. The house cannot be cut in half, sot the land will be partitioned unequally to keep the home in tact. Without the unequal partition, the land would be sold and then the proceeds are to be divided up equally. Upon unequal division, the individual with the lesser-valued portion of property may place a lien against the other individual for the difference of the value. The homestead is not exempt from this type of lien.

Refinancing: If a bank were to purchase a money lien against a home with a six percent annual interest rate, the bank is allowed to offer the homeowners the option of refinancing the lien at an additional five years at a five percent annual interest rate without risking the loss of the lien on the homestead. The homestead may be burdened by the refinancing of a valid lien against it. This includes federal tax liens that are incurred due to unpaid taxes.

Home Equity Loans: A home equity loan allows the homeowner to use the existing home as collateral for a loan based on the property value. This was not possible in Texas until 1998. The amendment allowing this permits home equity loans to place restrictions on the borrowers use of the money. Because the money is not required to be used on the homestead, the homestead is not protected against a valid home equity loan. The Texas Constitution has several extensive requirements that a creditor must meet in order to obtain a valid lien against the home.

Reverse Mortgages: A reverse mortgage is, essentially, a home equity conversion that allows the homestead to be used as collateral for a loan in which the homeowner receives a sum of money or payments in exchange for the home equity. The mortgage is due upon the death of the borrower or the abandonment of the home. Before 1997, the use of the homestead as collateral in a reverse mortgage was not allowed. Today, the homestead that is used as collateral for a reverse mortgage is not protected against foreclosure to satisfy the mortgage debt.

Manufactured Home Refinancing: The homestead may be converted and refinanced as a personal property lien that is secured by a manufactured home to a lien on real property that includes the refinancing of the purchase prices of the manufactured home as well as the cost of installing the manufactured home on the property and the refinancing of the purchase price of the property.

Preexisting Lien: This is a lien that existed against the property before it became a homestead.

(emphasis added)

http://www.taxliensanddeeds.com/what-does-the-texas-homestead-exemption-protect/

In other words, the TX legislature, however “consumer-debtor-friendly” they appear to have been, has made it difficult (impossible before 1998) to use residential real property (on 200 AC or less) as a “bottomless piggy bank,” as many homeowners did in CA over recent years. Non-purchase $$ lenders doing business in TX have a lot of hoops to jump thru in order to make sure their lien will be exempt from a “homestead.” Hence, the scarcity of lenders willing to refi/cashout or HELOC and a relatively stable market which did not experience a bubble.

[Doooh]

The temps in Austin seem to be about the same, if not slightly milder than an El Cajon, Santee, or Ramona in the summer, but colder in the winter.

They get more rain which breeds all kinds of critters, including Deer, Hogs, and Turkey for hunting. The Fishing is all fresh water, so the comparison to San Diego’s inshore fishing is a hard trade off.

[Doooh]

The temps in Austin seem to be about the same, if not slightly milder than an El Cajon, Santee, or Ramona in the summer, but colder in the winter.

They get more rain which breeds all kinds of critters, including Deer, Hogs, and Turkey for hunting. The Fishing is all fresh water, so the comparison to San Diego’s inshore fishing is a hard trade off.

[Doooh]

The temps in Austin seem to be about the same, if not slightly milder than an El Cajon, Santee, or Ramona in the summer, but colder in the winter.

They get more rain which breeds all kinds of critters, including Deer, Hogs, and Turkey for hunting. The Fishing is all fresh water, so the comparison to San Diego’s inshore fishing is a hard trade off.

[Doooh]

The temps in Austin seem to be about the same, if not slightly milder than an El Cajon, Santee, or Ramona in the summer, but colder in the winter.

They get more rain which breeds all kinds of critters, including Deer, Hogs, and Turkey for hunting. The Fishing is all fresh water, so the comparison to San Diego’s inshore fishing is a hard trade off.

[Doooh]

The temps in Austin seem to be about the same, if not slightly milder than an El Cajon, Santee, or Ramona in the summer, but colder in the winter.

They get more rain which breeds all kinds of critters, including Deer, Hogs, and Turkey for hunting. The Fishing is all fresh water, so the comparison to San Diego’s inshore fishing is a hard trade off.

[bake]

Doooh this is a pretty tough neighborhood: I bought a new house, 3/2, 1640sf, 2 car garage, gated community, two miles east of this property (slightly better neighborhood) in 3/06 for $135,000, 20% down, 6.25%, 30 year fixed.

Today it is worth about $120,000. That’s the bad news; the good news is it rents for $1150, which gives me about a $200 p/mo positive cash flow.

I also bought a 2br 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 1400sf condo in Round Rock (17 miles north of Austin), on the golf course, looking out over a pond to the green, in 2/07, for $157,000, which is worth about $175,000 today, and rented for $1200 a month the first year after I bought it.

Obviously it depends on whether you are looking for cash flow, appreciation, 2nd home, or a new town to move to. Whichever it is, definitely consider Austin, which is being called by many people the best city in the country right now to live and/or invest in:

http://www.cainsellsaustin.com/austin-accolades.asp

As a native Californian and Cali resident for 53 years (Marin County for 18 years, San Diego for 35), and Austin transplant of 3 years, I couldn’t agree more. Home prices are about 50% of San Diego’s, the people are extremely friendly, the food is fantastic (Rich will attest to that!), the weather is excellent (except July and August which aren’t that bad if you like it warm), there is no state income tax, and there are a ton of things to do.

I expect everybody from everywhere to move here any day now (but I’ve been saying that for the last 5 years and it hasn’t happened yet!)

Happy to help if I can, have a good day!

[bake]

Doooh this is a pretty tough neighborhood: I bought a new house, 3/2, 1640sf, 2 car garage, gated community, two miles east of this property (slightly better neighborhood) in 3/06 for $135,000, 20% down, 6.25%, 30 year fixed.

Today it is worth about $120,000. That’s the bad news; the good news is it rents for $1150, which gives me about a $200 p/mo positive cash flow.

I also bought a 2br 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 1400sf condo in Round Rock (17 miles north of Austin), on the golf course, looking out over a pond to the green, in 2/07, for $157,000, which is worth about $175,000 today, and rented for $1200 a month the first year after I bought it.

Obviously it depends on whether you are looking for cash flow, appreciation, 2nd home, or a new town to move to. Whichever it is, definitely consider Austin, which is being called by many people the best city in the country right now to live and/or invest in:

http://www.cainsellsaustin.com/austin-accolades.asp

As a native Californian and Cali resident for 53 years (Marin County for 18 years, San Diego for 35), and Austin transplant of 3 years, I couldn’t agree more. Home prices are about 50% of San Diego’s, the people are extremely friendly, the food is fantastic (Rich will attest to that!), the weather is excellent (except July and August which aren’t that bad if you like it warm), there is no state income tax, and there are a ton of things to do.

I expect everybody from everywhere to move here any day now (but I’ve been saying that for the last 5 years and it hasn’t happened yet!)

Happy to help if I can, have a good day!

[bake]

Doooh this is a pretty tough neighborhood: I bought a new house, 3/2, 1640sf, 2 car garage, gated community, two miles east of this property (slightly better neighborhood) in 3/06 for $135,000, 20% down, 6.25%, 30 year fixed.

Today it is worth about $120,000. That’s the bad news; the good news is it rents for $1150, which gives me about a $200 p/mo positive cash flow.

I also bought a 2br 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 1400sf condo in Round Rock (17 miles north of Austin), on the golf course, looking out over a pond to the green, in 2/07, for $157,000, which is worth about $175,000 today, and rented for $1200 a month the first year after I bought it.

Obviously it depends on whether you are looking for cash flow, appreciation, 2nd home, or a new town to move to. Whichever it is, definitely consider Austin, which is being called by many people the best city in the country right now to live and/or invest in:

http://www.cainsellsaustin.com/austin-accolades.asp

As a native Californian and Cali resident for 53 years (Marin County for 18 years, San Diego for 35), and Austin transplant of 3 years, I couldn’t agree more. Home prices are about 50% of San Diego’s, the people are extremely friendly, the food is fantastic (Rich will attest to that!), the weather is excellent (except July and August which aren’t that bad if you like it warm), there is no state income tax, and there are a ton of things to do.

I expect everybody from everywhere to move here any day now (but I’ve been saying that for the last 5 years and it hasn’t happened yet!)

Happy to help if I can, have a good day!

[bake]

Doooh this is a pretty tough neighborhood: I bought a new house, 3/2, 1640sf, 2 car garage, gated community, two miles east of this property (slightly better neighborhood) in 3/06 for $135,000, 20% down, 6.25%, 30 year fixed.

Today it is worth about $120,000. That’s the bad news; the good news is it rents for $1150, which gives me about a $200 p/mo positive cash flow.

I also bought a 2br 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 1400sf condo in Round Rock (17 miles north of Austin), on the golf course, looking out over a pond to the green, in 2/07, for $157,000, which is worth about $175,000 today, and rented for $1200 a month the first year after I bought it.

Obviously it depends on whether you are looking for cash flow, appreciation, 2nd home, or a new town to move to. Whichever it is, definitely consider Austin, which is being called by many people the best city in the country right now to live and/or invest in:

http://www.cainsellsaustin.com/austin-accolades.asp

As a native Californian and Cali resident for 53 years (Marin County for 18 years, San Diego for 35), and Austin transplant of 3 years, I couldn’t agree more. Home prices are about 50% of San Diego’s, the people are extremely friendly, the food is fantastic (Rich will attest to that!), the weather is excellent (except July and August which aren’t that bad if you like it warm), there is no state income tax, and there are a ton of things to do.

I expect everybody from everywhere to move here any day now (but I’ve been saying that for the last 5 years and it hasn’t happened yet!)

Happy to help if I can, have a good day!

[bake]

Doooh this is a pretty tough neighborhood: I bought a new house, 3/2, 1640sf, 2 car garage, gated community, two miles east of this property (slightly better neighborhood) in 3/06 for $135,000, 20% down, 6.25%, 30 year fixed.

Today it is worth about $120,000. That’s the bad news; the good news is it rents for $1150, which gives me about a $200 p/mo positive cash flow.

I also bought a 2br 2.5 bath, 2 car garage, 1400sf condo in Round Rock (17 miles north of Austin), on the golf course, looking out over a pond to the green, in 2/07, for $157,000, which is worth about $175,000 today, and rented for $1200 a month the first year after I bought it.

Obviously it depends on whether you are looking for cash flow, appreciation, 2nd home, or a new town to move to. Whichever it is, definitely consider Austin, which is being called by many people the best city in the country right now to live and/or invest in:

http://www.cainsellsaustin.com/austin-accolades.asp

As a native Californian and Cali resident for 53 years (Marin County for 18 years, San Diego for 35), and Austin transplant of 3 years, I couldn’t agree more. Home prices are about 50% of San Diego’s, the people are extremely friendly, the food is fantastic (Rich will attest to that!), the weather is excellent (except July and August which aren’t that bad if you like it warm), there is no state income tax, and there are a ton of things to do.

I expect everybody from everywhere to move here any day now (but I’ve been saying that for the last 5 years and it hasn’t happened yet!)

Happy to help if I can, have a good day!

[SD Realtor]

It is also a tad colder in Austin then in SD in the winter.

However I agree with you guys that cash flowing opportunities abound for astute investors. To me it is a no brainer.

[SD Realtor]

It is also a tad colder in Austin then in SD in the winter.

However I agree with you guys that cash flowing opportunities abound for astute investors. To me it is a no brainer.

[SD Realtor]

It is also a tad colder in Austin then in SD in the winter.

However I agree with you guys that cash flowing opportunities abound for astute investors. To me it is a no brainer.

[SD Realtor]

It is also a tad colder in Austin then in SD in the winter.

However I agree with you guys that cash flowing opportunities abound for astute investors. To me it is a no brainer.

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