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December 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM #315993December 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM #315638capemanParticipant
750 bottom on the S&P is a pipe dream as long as there is no transparency in the financial system and we don’t know who is dead and who isn’t. There is no reason to invest in a questionable company when you can’t see the fundamentals backing them. Until all of that is fixed the S&P can go much lower than 750. In a worst case scenario no viable financial institutions are left and S&P races towards ZERO.
December 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM #315992capemanParticipant750 bottom on the S&P is a pipe dream as long as there is no transparency in the financial system and we don’t know who is dead and who isn’t. There is no reason to invest in a questionable company when you can’t see the fundamentals backing them. Until all of that is fixed the S&P can go much lower than 750. In a worst case scenario no viable financial institutions are left and S&P races towards ZERO.
December 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM #316029capemanParticipant750 bottom on the S&P is a pipe dream as long as there is no transparency in the financial system and we don’t know who is dead and who isn’t. There is no reason to invest in a questionable company when you can’t see the fundamentals backing them. Until all of that is fixed the S&P can go much lower than 750. In a worst case scenario no viable financial institutions are left and S&P races towards ZERO.
December 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM #316051capemanParticipant750 bottom on the S&P is a pipe dream as long as there is no transparency in the financial system and we don’t know who is dead and who isn’t. There is no reason to invest in a questionable company when you can’t see the fundamentals backing them. Until all of that is fixed the S&P can go much lower than 750. In a worst case scenario no viable financial institutions are left and S&P races towards ZERO.
December 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM #316123capemanParticipant750 bottom on the S&P is a pipe dream as long as there is no transparency in the financial system and we don’t know who is dead and who isn’t. There is no reason to invest in a questionable company when you can’t see the fundamentals backing them. Until all of that is fixed the S&P can go much lower than 750. In a worst case scenario no viable financial institutions are left and S&P races towards ZERO.
December 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM #315678peterbParticipantInvestments are all relatively based. That is, they compete with one another for resources or investment money. The US$ competes with other currencies and investments. What makes anyone think that the other world currencies are fundementally stronger than the US$? Perhaps gold as it now is in a money behavior mode? But other fiats? I dont see it. The first worlds share equal problems of aging demographics and escalating deficits. Emerging markets like China need a host to sell to. History has a strong correlation to the senior currency being chronically strong after a global credit bust like we’re going through right now. Look for more Euro infighting and protectionism from everyone as this unwinding keeps going. With every drop in the markets, the US$ should bounce up. IMO.
December 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM #316032peterbParticipantInvestments are all relatively based. That is, they compete with one another for resources or investment money. The US$ competes with other currencies and investments. What makes anyone think that the other world currencies are fundementally stronger than the US$? Perhaps gold as it now is in a money behavior mode? But other fiats? I dont see it. The first worlds share equal problems of aging demographics and escalating deficits. Emerging markets like China need a host to sell to. History has a strong correlation to the senior currency being chronically strong after a global credit bust like we’re going through right now. Look for more Euro infighting and protectionism from everyone as this unwinding keeps going. With every drop in the markets, the US$ should bounce up. IMO.
December 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM #316070peterbParticipantInvestments are all relatively based. That is, they compete with one another for resources or investment money. The US$ competes with other currencies and investments. What makes anyone think that the other world currencies are fundementally stronger than the US$? Perhaps gold as it now is in a money behavior mode? But other fiats? I dont see it. The first worlds share equal problems of aging demographics and escalating deficits. Emerging markets like China need a host to sell to. History has a strong correlation to the senior currency being chronically strong after a global credit bust like we’re going through right now. Look for more Euro infighting and protectionism from everyone as this unwinding keeps going. With every drop in the markets, the US$ should bounce up. IMO.
December 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM #316091peterbParticipantInvestments are all relatively based. That is, they compete with one another for resources or investment money. The US$ competes with other currencies and investments. What makes anyone think that the other world currencies are fundementally stronger than the US$? Perhaps gold as it now is in a money behavior mode? But other fiats? I dont see it. The first worlds share equal problems of aging demographics and escalating deficits. Emerging markets like China need a host to sell to. History has a strong correlation to the senior currency being chronically strong after a global credit bust like we’re going through right now. Look for more Euro infighting and protectionism from everyone as this unwinding keeps going. With every drop in the markets, the US$ should bounce up. IMO.
December 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM #316163peterbParticipantInvestments are all relatively based. That is, they compete with one another for resources or investment money. The US$ competes with other currencies and investments. What makes anyone think that the other world currencies are fundementally stronger than the US$? Perhaps gold as it now is in a money behavior mode? But other fiats? I dont see it. The first worlds share equal problems of aging demographics and escalating deficits. Emerging markets like China need a host to sell to. History has a strong correlation to the senior currency being chronically strong after a global credit bust like we’re going through right now. Look for more Euro infighting and protectionism from everyone as this unwinding keeps going. With every drop in the markets, the US$ should bounce up. IMO.
December 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM #315881ArrayaParticipantI noticed Jim Cramer has, as of today, given up on doomerism and positively declared that we are not about to experience the Great Depression II. Of course, what this means is that we are, absolutely, positively about to experience the Second Great Depression. The only thing worse would be Bernanke or Paulson declaring that “our financial system is sound.”
December 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM #316236ArrayaParticipantI noticed Jim Cramer has, as of today, given up on doomerism and positively declared that we are not about to experience the Great Depression II. Of course, what this means is that we are, absolutely, positively about to experience the Second Great Depression. The only thing worse would be Bernanke or Paulson declaring that “our financial system is sound.”
December 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM #316276ArrayaParticipantI noticed Jim Cramer has, as of today, given up on doomerism and positively declared that we are not about to experience the Great Depression II. Of course, what this means is that we are, absolutely, positively about to experience the Second Great Depression. The only thing worse would be Bernanke or Paulson declaring that “our financial system is sound.”
December 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM #316297ArrayaParticipantI noticed Jim Cramer has, as of today, given up on doomerism and positively declared that we are not about to experience the Great Depression II. Of course, what this means is that we are, absolutely, positively about to experience the Second Great Depression. The only thing worse would be Bernanke or Paulson declaring that “our financial system is sound.”
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