What do you all know about Fallbrook?

[Bunny Meadows]

We are also considering Fallbrook vs. Temecula for our next home.

However, I know so little about that area. The downtown seems quaint, but it also has areas that look marginal.

I’m also not sure about the “culture” of the place. I get the feeling that the spectrum runs from wealthy estates all the way to immigrant day laborers.

We know one person who lives in Fallbrook and he’s falls to the right of Far Right politically and in terms of values. He seems to have a number of friends in the community who share his view, too. They were all up in arms when Tory Spelling moved in and began doing gay weddings at her B&B.

I respect everyone’s right to their own beliefs, but I’m more middle of the road and dont necessarily want to live in a place where intolerance reigns.

I have seen listings for places on much larger lots that need a bit of work…but, again, I just dont know how desirable FB is, what the culture/vibe is, etc.

THOUGHTS?

Bunny

[temeculaguy]

Fallbrook is a nice, quiet place. It is a conservative town but I think that is common in semi-rural areas. You have to ask Alan about the culture/vibe part, I’ve never really seen it as much of an entertainment mecca, just a sleepy avocado town with some nice houses and pretty landscape. Your ultra right wing friends that live there may have migrated there in the 1980’s when it was somewhat notorious because one of it’s residents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

As the base for the Grand Dragon of the KKK, it wasn’t exactly a “diverse” place. It’s been 20 years since that guy went to prison and nothing like it exists today to my knowledge but some people take a while to forget. I think the effect of the 1980’s have faded in the twenty years since but I imagine there are still some folks leftover.

[Bugs]

It depends. Where do you work and is commuting time an issue for you?

That town is a complete nuisanace to get in and out of on a daily basis. The closer to town you are the worse it gets. Traffic is limited to 2-lane roads almost everyhwere except on So. Mission, and it backs up twice a day like clockwork.

Unless you work at Camp Pendleton and can access it from the Naval Weapons Station on the Fallbrook side, I think you’d be better off staying in Temecula.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

I agree with both TG and Bugs. It is a great place to raise kids (I have two), but not exactly up to snuff when it comes to dining or entertainment options.

Politically, it is center/right in orientation, and you rarely (if ever) hear Metzger mentioned. You have quite a few retired Marines in town, and that contributes to the somewhat conservative mindset. That being said, it has it’s eclectic side, too, with something of a free spirited artistic bent. Rita Coolidge lives here, as does the novelist T. Jefferson Parker (from Orange County).

You might also check out Bonsall. Somewhat more upscale than Fallbrook, but definitely more off of the beaten path.

While I tease temeculaguy about Temecula, I think it has it’s pluses as well. It definitely offers more choices as far as restaurants and entertainment go.

I’m a “townie” at heart. I grew up in a small town in Northern California, so I enjoy the small town feel, plus I like being able to raise my kids in that same environment. Not for everyone, to be sure.

[Bunny Meadows]

Thanks, allan!

Have you ever heard of the “Third Place” concept? I read about this last summer…about places in communities that people go to, that are not work or home. For example, the local coffee shop, book store, etc.

I think “Cheers” was the ULTIMATE third place – where everybody knows your name, etc..

The Wiki description is much better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

There are few of these types of places in Temecula. Old Pacific Coffee

The thing that I like about Fallbrook is that it feels like a “real” small town, with plenty of Third Places. My husband and I had dinner at the Bistro one night, and everyone knew each other. It kind of reminds me of some midwestern towns that I’ve spent time in.

What do you think of the real estate situation in Fallbrook? Are there deals to be had? I know it will be more expensive than Temecula, but we plan to explore it.

Thanks again.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

There are definitely “townie” hangouts in Fallbrook. Farmhouse Coffee, Cafe Bravo and the Bistro at Jackson Square (which you referenced).

There are some deals, but few and far between. Overall, I think people here are like people throughout San Diego county when it comes to overvaluing their home. The general consensus is that, while there is a downturn going on, things will turn around in ’08 and this will be behind us.

I would strongly advocate waiting at least a year, if not longer (18 to 24 months).

I have family in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois, and that is what appealed to me about Fallbrook. Growing up in a small town has certain advantages. And, truth be told, certain disadvantages.

[Bugs]

If commuting time is not an issue then Fallbrook might be a good deal for you. It definitely does have more of the small town situation going on. I don’t know about the 10 degrees cooler theory, though. During the summer Fallbrook seems (to me) to get just as hot as Temecula and Escondido. Temecula seems to cool down quite nicely during the evenings.

[Bugs]

If commuting time is not an issue then Fallbrook might be a good deal for you. It definitely does have more of the small town situation going on. I don’t know about the 10 degrees cooler theory, though. During the summer Fallbrook seems (to me) to get just as hot as Temecula and Escondido. Temecula seems to cool down quite nicely during the evenings.

[Bugs]

If commuting time is not an issue then Fallbrook might be a good deal for you. It definitely does have more of the small town situation going on. I don’t know about the 10 degrees cooler theory, though. During the summer Fallbrook seems (to me) to get just as hot as Temecula and Escondido. Temecula seems to cool down quite nicely during the evenings.

[Bugs]

If commuting time is not an issue then Fallbrook might be a good deal for you. It definitely does have more of the small town situation going on. I don’t know about the 10 degrees cooler theory, though. During the summer Fallbrook seems (to me) to get just as hot as Temecula and Escondido. Temecula seems to cool down quite nicely during the evenings.

[Bugs]

If commuting time is not an issue then Fallbrook might be a good deal for you. It definitely does have more of the small town situation going on. I don’t know about the 10 degrees cooler theory, though. During the summer Fallbrook seems (to me) to get just as hot as Temecula and Escondido. Temecula seems to cool down quite nicely during the evenings.

[Bunny Meadows]

The overvaluing thing just amazes me. I’m not a savvy economist, but wasnt the “boom” related to the easy access to moolah? With credit/lending standards tightening up, the number of foreclosures, short sales, and the general state of the economy, I cant see how a seller could expect someone to pay $700,000 for a crappy little “fixer” in Fallbrook.

I saw a house online in Oceanside (Ocean Hills,close to Vista)that was listed at $699K. Yes, it was bordering a nature preserve (in the back of the house), but the house itself was about 1700 sf and not updated. I think the seller is living in la-la land. He had commented to someone on a forum that he would NEVER sell his place for under $600K.

But, maybe I’m wrong…

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Bunny: We bought our place in 2003 for $425k. It is 3,300sf on 1.2ac. I mention this because there are a significant number of owners in Fallbrook that are like me: They purchased early in, or prior to, the boom and are sitting on a decent hunk of equity. Selling therefore doesn’t become such a pressing proposition as it would for someone who is upside down and saddled with a bad mortgage. This is just opinion, so please treat it accordingly, but I think there are more people in Temecula and Murrieta in this fix than in Fallbrook. Again, sheer guesswork, but that feels right.

That being said, I do know there are people here that are in trouble, and that the situation is getting worse. Quite a few of the properties that are for sale are dropping their prices, and “Bank Owned” sign toppers are becoming more prevalent. As I mentioned earlier, you’re not going to hurt yourself by waiting.

During the boom, our place went as high as $800k, before settling back down into the $600s. There are people out there that are really treating the bust as nothing more than a blip, and they absolutely refuse to listen to reason. Until cold, hard reality gives them a sharp one upside the head, they’ll keep believing a turnaround is right around the corner.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Bunny: We bought our place in 2003 for $425k. It is 3,300sf on 1.2ac. I mention this because there are a significant number of owners in Fallbrook that are like me: They purchased early in, or prior to, the boom and are sitting on a decent hunk of equity. Selling therefore doesn’t become such a pressing proposition as it would for someone who is upside down and saddled with a bad mortgage. This is just opinion, so please treat it accordingly, but I think there are more people in Temecula and Murrieta in this fix than in Fallbrook. Again, sheer guesswork, but that feels right.

That being said, I do know there are people here that are in trouble, and that the situation is getting worse. Quite a few of the properties that are for sale are dropping their prices, and “Bank Owned” sign toppers are becoming more prevalent. As I mentioned earlier, you’re not going to hurt yourself by waiting.

During the boom, our place went as high as $800k, before settling back down into the $600s. There are people out there that are really treating the bust as nothing more than a blip, and they absolutely refuse to listen to reason. Until cold, hard reality gives them a sharp one upside the head, they’ll keep believing a turnaround is right around the corner.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Bunny: We bought our place in 2003 for $425k. It is 3,300sf on 1.2ac. I mention this because there are a significant number of owners in Fallbrook that are like me: They purchased early in, or prior to, the boom and are sitting on a decent hunk of equity. Selling therefore doesn’t become such a pressing proposition as it would for someone who is upside down and saddled with a bad mortgage. This is just opinion, so please treat it accordingly, but I think there are more people in Temecula and Murrieta in this fix than in Fallbrook. Again, sheer guesswork, but that feels right.

That being said, I do know there are people here that are in trouble, and that the situation is getting worse. Quite a few of the properties that are for sale are dropping their prices, and “Bank Owned” sign toppers are becoming more prevalent. As I mentioned earlier, you’re not going to hurt yourself by waiting.

During the boom, our place went as high as $800k, before settling back down into the $600s. There are people out there that are really treating the bust as nothing more than a blip, and they absolutely refuse to listen to reason. Until cold, hard reality gives them a sharp one upside the head, they’ll keep believing a turnaround is right around the corner.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Bunny: We bought our place in 2003 for $425k. It is 3,300sf on 1.2ac. I mention this because there are a significant number of owners in Fallbrook that are like me: They purchased early in, or prior to, the boom and are sitting on a decent hunk of equity. Selling therefore doesn’t become such a pressing proposition as it would for someone who is upside down and saddled with a bad mortgage. This is just opinion, so please treat it accordingly, but I think there are more people in Temecula and Murrieta in this fix than in Fallbrook. Again, sheer guesswork, but that feels right.

That being said, I do know there are people here that are in trouble, and that the situation is getting worse. Quite a few of the properties that are for sale are dropping their prices, and “Bank Owned” sign toppers are becoming more prevalent. As I mentioned earlier, you’re not going to hurt yourself by waiting.

During the boom, our place went as high as $800k, before settling back down into the $600s. There are people out there that are really treating the bust as nothing more than a blip, and they absolutely refuse to listen to reason. Until cold, hard reality gives them a sharp one upside the head, they’ll keep believing a turnaround is right around the corner.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Bunny: We bought our place in 2003 for $425k. It is 3,300sf on 1.2ac. I mention this because there are a significant number of owners in Fallbrook that are like me: They purchased early in, or prior to, the boom and are sitting on a decent hunk of equity. Selling therefore doesn’t become such a pressing proposition as it would for someone who is upside down and saddled with a bad mortgage. This is just opinion, so please treat it accordingly, but I think there are more people in Temecula and Murrieta in this fix than in Fallbrook. Again, sheer guesswork, but that feels right.

That being said, I do know there are people here that are in trouble, and that the situation is getting worse. Quite a few of the properties that are for sale are dropping their prices, and “Bank Owned” sign toppers are becoming more prevalent. As I mentioned earlier, you’re not going to hurt yourself by waiting.

During the boom, our place went as high as $800k, before settling back down into the $600s. There are people out there that are really treating the bust as nothing more than a blip, and they absolutely refuse to listen to reason. Until cold, hard reality gives them a sharp one upside the head, they’ll keep believing a turnaround is right around the corner.

[Bunny Meadows]

The overvaluing thing just amazes me. I’m not a savvy economist, but wasnt the “boom” related to the easy access to moolah? With credit/lending standards tightening up, the number of foreclosures, short sales, and the general state of the economy, I cant see how a seller could expect someone to pay $700,000 for a crappy little “fixer” in Fallbrook.

I saw a house online in Oceanside (Ocean Hills,close to Vista)that was listed at $699K. Yes, it was bordering a nature preserve (in the back of the house), but the house itself was about 1700 sf and not updated. I think the seller is living in la-la land. He had commented to someone on a forum that he would NEVER sell his place for under $600K.

But, maybe I’m wrong…

[Bunny Meadows]

The overvaluing thing just amazes me. I’m not a savvy economist, but wasnt the “boom” related to the easy access to moolah? With credit/lending standards tightening up, the number of foreclosures, short sales, and the general state of the economy, I cant see how a seller could expect someone to pay $700,000 for a crappy little “fixer” in Fallbrook.

I saw a house online in Oceanside (Ocean Hills,close to Vista)that was listed at $699K. Yes, it was bordering a nature preserve (in the back of the house), but the house itself was about 1700 sf and not updated. I think the seller is living in la-la land. He had commented to someone on a forum that he would NEVER sell his place for under $600K.

But, maybe I’m wrong…

[Bunny Meadows]

The overvaluing thing just amazes me. I’m not a savvy economist, but wasnt the “boom” related to the easy access to moolah? With credit/lending standards tightening up, the number of foreclosures, short sales, and the general state of the economy, I cant see how a seller could expect someone to pay $700,000 for a crappy little “fixer” in Fallbrook.

I saw a house online in Oceanside (Ocean Hills,close to Vista)that was listed at $699K. Yes, it was bordering a nature preserve (in the back of the house), but the house itself was about 1700 sf and not updated. I think the seller is living in la-la land. He had commented to someone on a forum that he would NEVER sell his place for under $600K.

But, maybe I’m wrong…

[Bunny Meadows]

The overvaluing thing just amazes me. I’m not a savvy economist, but wasnt the “boom” related to the easy access to moolah? With credit/lending standards tightening up, the number of foreclosures, short sales, and the general state of the economy, I cant see how a seller could expect someone to pay $700,000 for a crappy little “fixer” in Fallbrook.

I saw a house online in Oceanside (Ocean Hills,close to Vista)that was listed at $699K. Yes, it was bordering a nature preserve (in the back of the house), but the house itself was about 1700 sf and not updated. I think the seller is living in la-la land. He had commented to someone on a forum that he would NEVER sell his place for under $600K.

But, maybe I’m wrong…

[Allan from Fallbrook]

There are definitely “townie” hangouts in Fallbrook. Farmhouse Coffee, Cafe Bravo and the Bistro at Jackson Square (which you referenced).

There are some deals, but few and far between. Overall, I think people here are like people throughout San Diego county when it comes to overvaluing their home. The general consensus is that, while there is a downturn going on, things will turn around in ’08 and this will be behind us.

I would strongly advocate waiting at least a year, if not longer (18 to 24 months).

I have family in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois, and that is what appealed to me about Fallbrook. Growing up in a small town has certain advantages. And, truth be told, certain disadvantages.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

There are definitely “townie” hangouts in Fallbrook. Farmhouse Coffee, Cafe Bravo and the Bistro at Jackson Square (which you referenced).

There are some deals, but few and far between. Overall, I think people here are like people throughout San Diego county when it comes to overvaluing their home. The general consensus is that, while there is a downturn going on, things will turn around in ’08 and this will be behind us.

I would strongly advocate waiting at least a year, if not longer (18 to 24 months).

I have family in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois, and that is what appealed to me about Fallbrook. Growing up in a small town has certain advantages. And, truth be told, certain disadvantages.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

There are definitely “townie” hangouts in Fallbrook. Farmhouse Coffee, Cafe Bravo and the Bistro at Jackson Square (which you referenced).

There are some deals, but few and far between. Overall, I think people here are like people throughout San Diego county when it comes to overvaluing their home. The general consensus is that, while there is a downturn going on, things will turn around in ’08 and this will be behind us.

I would strongly advocate waiting at least a year, if not longer (18 to 24 months).

I have family in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois, and that is what appealed to me about Fallbrook. Growing up in a small town has certain advantages. And, truth be told, certain disadvantages.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

There are definitely “townie” hangouts in Fallbrook. Farmhouse Coffee, Cafe Bravo and the Bistro at Jackson Square (which you referenced).

There are some deals, but few and far between. Overall, I think people here are like people throughout San Diego county when it comes to overvaluing their home. The general consensus is that, while there is a downturn going on, things will turn around in ’08 and this will be behind us.

I would strongly advocate waiting at least a year, if not longer (18 to 24 months).

I have family in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois, and that is what appealed to me about Fallbrook. Growing up in a small town has certain advantages. And, truth be told, certain disadvantages.

[Bunny Meadows]

Thanks, allan!

Have you ever heard of the “Third Place” concept? I read about this last summer…about places in communities that people go to, that are not work or home. For example, the local coffee shop, book store, etc.

I think “Cheers” was the ULTIMATE third place – where everybody knows your name, etc..

The Wiki description is much better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

There are few of these types of places in Temecula. Old Pacific Coffee

The thing that I like about Fallbrook is that it feels like a “real” small town, with plenty of Third Places. My husband and I had dinner at the Bistro one night, and everyone knew each other. It kind of reminds me of some midwestern towns that I’ve spent time in.

What do you think of the real estate situation in Fallbrook? Are there deals to be had? I know it will be more expensive than Temecula, but we plan to explore it.

Thanks again.

[Bunny Meadows]

Thanks, allan!

Have you ever heard of the “Third Place” concept? I read about this last summer…about places in communities that people go to, that are not work or home. For example, the local coffee shop, book store, etc.

I think “Cheers” was the ULTIMATE third place – where everybody knows your name, etc..

The Wiki description is much better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

There are few of these types of places in Temecula. Old Pacific Coffee

The thing that I like about Fallbrook is that it feels like a “real” small town, with plenty of Third Places. My husband and I had dinner at the Bistro one night, and everyone knew each other. It kind of reminds me of some midwestern towns that I’ve spent time in.

What do you think of the real estate situation in Fallbrook? Are there deals to be had? I know it will be more expensive than Temecula, but we plan to explore it.

Thanks again.

[Bunny Meadows]

Thanks, allan!

Have you ever heard of the “Third Place” concept? I read about this last summer…about places in communities that people go to, that are not work or home. For example, the local coffee shop, book store, etc.

I think “Cheers” was the ULTIMATE third place – where everybody knows your name, etc..

The Wiki description is much better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

There are few of these types of places in Temecula. Old Pacific Coffee

The thing that I like about Fallbrook is that it feels like a “real” small town, with plenty of Third Places. My husband and I had dinner at the Bistro one night, and everyone knew each other. It kind of reminds me of some midwestern towns that I’ve spent time in.

What do you think of the real estate situation in Fallbrook? Are there deals to be had? I know it will be more expensive than Temecula, but we plan to explore it.

Thanks again.

[Bunny Meadows]

Thanks, allan!

Have you ever heard of the “Third Place” concept? I read about this last summer…about places in communities that people go to, that are not work or home. For example, the local coffee shop, book store, etc.

I think “Cheers” was the ULTIMATE third place – where everybody knows your name, etc..

The Wiki description is much better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

There are few of these types of places in Temecula. Old Pacific Coffee

The thing that I like about Fallbrook is that it feels like a “real” small town, with plenty of Third Places. My husband and I had dinner at the Bistro one night, and everyone knew each other. It kind of reminds me of some midwestern towns that I’ve spent time in.

What do you think of the real estate situation in Fallbrook? Are there deals to be had? I know it will be more expensive than Temecula, but we plan to explore it.

Thanks again.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

I agree with both TG and Bugs. It is a great place to raise kids (I have two), but not exactly up to snuff when it comes to dining or entertainment options.

Politically, it is center/right in orientation, and you rarely (if ever) hear Metzger mentioned. You have quite a few retired Marines in town, and that contributes to the somewhat conservative mindset. That being said, it has it’s eclectic side, too, with something of a free spirited artistic bent. Rita Coolidge lives here, as does the novelist T. Jefferson Parker (from Orange County).

You might also check out Bonsall. Somewhat more upscale than Fallbrook, but definitely more off of the beaten path.

While I tease temeculaguy about Temecula, I think it has it’s pluses as well. It definitely offers more choices as far as restaurants and entertainment go.

I’m a “townie” at heart. I grew up in a small town in Northern California, so I enjoy the small town feel, plus I like being able to raise my kids in that same environment. Not for everyone, to be sure.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

I agree with both TG and Bugs. It is a great place to raise kids (I have two), but not exactly up to snuff when it comes to dining or entertainment options.

Politically, it is center/right in orientation, and you rarely (if ever) hear Metzger mentioned. You have quite a few retired Marines in town, and that contributes to the somewhat conservative mindset. That being said, it has it’s eclectic side, too, with something of a free spirited artistic bent. Rita Coolidge lives here, as does the novelist T. Jefferson Parker (from Orange County).

You might also check out Bonsall. Somewhat more upscale than Fallbrook, but definitely more off of the beaten path.

While I tease temeculaguy about Temecula, I think it has it’s pluses as well. It definitely offers more choices as far as restaurants and entertainment go.

I’m a “townie” at heart. I grew up in a small town in Northern California, so I enjoy the small town feel, plus I like being able to raise my kids in that same environment. Not for everyone, to be sure.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

I agree with both TG and Bugs. It is a great place to raise kids (I have two), but not exactly up to snuff when it comes to dining or entertainment options.

Politically, it is center/right in orientation, and you rarely (if ever) hear Metzger mentioned. You have quite a few retired Marines in town, and that contributes to the somewhat conservative mindset. That being said, it has it’s eclectic side, too, with something of a free spirited artistic bent. Rita Coolidge lives here, as does the novelist T. Jefferson Parker (from Orange County).

You might also check out Bonsall. Somewhat more upscale than Fallbrook, but definitely more off of the beaten path.

While I tease temeculaguy about Temecula, I think it has it’s pluses as well. It definitely offers more choices as far as restaurants and entertainment go.

I’m a “townie” at heart. I grew up in a small town in Northern California, so I enjoy the small town feel, plus I like being able to raise my kids in that same environment. Not for everyone, to be sure.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

I agree with both TG and Bugs. It is a great place to raise kids (I have two), but not exactly up to snuff when it comes to dining or entertainment options.

Politically, it is center/right in orientation, and you rarely (if ever) hear Metzger mentioned. You have quite a few retired Marines in town, and that contributes to the somewhat conservative mindset. That being said, it has it’s eclectic side, too, with something of a free spirited artistic bent. Rita Coolidge lives here, as does the novelist T. Jefferson Parker (from Orange County).

You might also check out Bonsall. Somewhat more upscale than Fallbrook, but definitely more off of the beaten path.

While I tease temeculaguy about Temecula, I think it has it’s pluses as well. It definitely offers more choices as far as restaurants and entertainment go.

I’m a “townie” at heart. I grew up in a small town in Northern California, so I enjoy the small town feel, plus I like being able to raise my kids in that same environment. Not for everyone, to be sure.

[Bunny Meadows]

Wow. I had no idea about Tom Metzger. That’s a wild story.

I work from home, so commuting time is ZERO. OK, maybe 15 seconds to stumble from bed to my desk in the morning.

My husband, however, works in Temecula. He does work with someone from Fallbrook, and that person touts the cooler weather (supposedly 10 degrees cooler in summer?) and lack of cookie-cutter/homogeneity as real assets. I think he could always drive the back roads thru De Luz if he had to.

I also like being even a little closer to San Diego. Even if it is only 18 miles.

I was more concerned about the overall “culture” of the place. From my few forays into town, I thought it had a “Mayberry USA” kinda feel. I was attracted to the community’s involvement in arts, and overall “community” feel.

I’m pretty worried about the GLUT of tract homes for sale in Temecula, which may leave some communities with a high percentage of rental homes. My biggest fear is that we’ll buy our “Dream” home and will be surrounded by renters who dont take care of the homes. I’m already seeing that in some areas of Redhawk (where we rent now).

[Bunny Meadows]

Wow. I had no idea about Tom Metzger. That’s a wild story.

I work from home, so commuting time is ZERO. OK, maybe 15 seconds to stumble from bed to my desk in the morning.

My husband, however, works in Temecula. He does work with someone from Fallbrook, and that person touts the cooler weather (supposedly 10 degrees cooler in summer?) and lack of cookie-cutter/homogeneity as real assets. I think he could always drive the back roads thru De Luz if he had to.

I also like being even a little closer to San Diego. Even if it is only 18 miles.

I was more concerned about the overall “culture” of the place. From my few forays into town, I thought it had a “Mayberry USA” kinda feel. I was attracted to the community’s involvement in arts, and overall “community” feel.

I’m pretty worried about the GLUT of tract homes for sale in Temecula, which may leave some communities with a high percentage of rental homes. My biggest fear is that we’ll buy our “Dream” home and will be surrounded by renters who dont take care of the homes. I’m already seeing that in some areas of Redhawk (where we rent now).

[Bunny Meadows]

Wow. I had no idea about Tom Metzger. That’s a wild story.

I work from home, so commuting time is ZERO. OK, maybe 15 seconds to stumble from bed to my desk in the morning.

My husband, however, works in Temecula. He does work with someone from Fallbrook, and that person touts the cooler weather (supposedly 10 degrees cooler in summer?) and lack of cookie-cutter/homogeneity as real assets. I think he could always drive the back roads thru De Luz if he had to.

I also like being even a little closer to San Diego. Even if it is only 18 miles.

I was more concerned about the overall “culture” of the place. From my few forays into town, I thought it had a “Mayberry USA” kinda feel. I was attracted to the community’s involvement in arts, and overall “community” feel.

I’m pretty worried about the GLUT of tract homes for sale in Temecula, which may leave some communities with a high percentage of rental homes. My biggest fear is that we’ll buy our “Dream” home and will be surrounded by renters who dont take care of the homes. I’m already seeing that in some areas of Redhawk (where we rent now).

[Bunny Meadows]

Wow. I had no idea about Tom Metzger. That’s a wild story.

I work from home, so commuting time is ZERO. OK, maybe 15 seconds to stumble from bed to my desk in the morning.

My husband, however, works in Temecula. He does work with someone from Fallbrook, and that person touts the cooler weather (supposedly 10 degrees cooler in summer?) and lack of cookie-cutter/homogeneity as real assets. I think he could always drive the back roads thru De Luz if he had to.

I also like being even a little closer to San Diego. Even if it is only 18 miles.

I was more concerned about the overall “culture” of the place. From my few forays into town, I thought it had a “Mayberry USA” kinda feel. I was attracted to the community’s involvement in arts, and overall “community” feel.

I’m pretty worried about the GLUT of tract homes for sale in Temecula, which may leave some communities with a high percentage of rental homes. My biggest fear is that we’ll buy our “Dream” home and will be surrounded by renters who dont take care of the homes. I’m already seeing that in some areas of Redhawk (where we rent now).

[Bunny Meadows]

Wow. I had no idea about Tom Metzger. That’s a wild story.

I work from home, so commuting time is ZERO. OK, maybe 15 seconds to stumble from bed to my desk in the morning.

My husband, however, works in Temecula. He does work with someone from Fallbrook, and that person touts the cooler weather (supposedly 10 degrees cooler in summer?) and lack of cookie-cutter/homogeneity as real assets. I think he could always drive the back roads thru De Luz if he had to.

I also like being even a little closer to San Diego. Even if it is only 18 miles.

I was more concerned about the overall “culture” of the place. From my few forays into town, I thought it had a “Mayberry USA” kinda feel. I was attracted to the community’s involvement in arts, and overall “community” feel.

I’m pretty worried about the GLUT of tract homes for sale in Temecula, which may leave some communities with a high percentage of rental homes. My biggest fear is that we’ll buy our “Dream” home and will be surrounded by renters who dont take care of the homes. I’m already seeing that in some areas of Redhawk (where we rent now).

[Bugs]

It depends. Where do you work and is commuting time an issue for you?

That town is a complete nuisanace to get in and out of on a daily basis. The closer to town you are the worse it gets. Traffic is limited to 2-lane roads almost everyhwere except on So. Mission, and it backs up twice a day like clockwork.

Unless you work at Camp Pendleton and can access it from the Naval Weapons Station on the Fallbrook side, I think you’d be better off staying in Temecula.

[Bugs]

It depends. Where do you work and is commuting time an issue for you?

That town is a complete nuisanace to get in and out of on a daily basis. The closer to town you are the worse it gets. Traffic is limited to 2-lane roads almost everyhwere except on So. Mission, and it backs up twice a day like clockwork.

Unless you work at Camp Pendleton and can access it from the Naval Weapons Station on the Fallbrook side, I think you’d be better off staying in Temecula.

[Bugs]

It depends. Where do you work and is commuting time an issue for you?

That town is a complete nuisanace to get in and out of on a daily basis. The closer to town you are the worse it gets. Traffic is limited to 2-lane roads almost everyhwere except on So. Mission, and it backs up twice a day like clockwork.

Unless you work at Camp Pendleton and can access it from the Naval Weapons Station on the Fallbrook side, I think you’d be better off staying in Temecula.

[Bugs]

It depends. Where do you work and is commuting time an issue for you?

That town is a complete nuisanace to get in and out of on a daily basis. The closer to town you are the worse it gets. Traffic is limited to 2-lane roads almost everyhwere except on So. Mission, and it backs up twice a day like clockwork.

Unless you work at Camp Pendleton and can access it from the Naval Weapons Station on the Fallbrook side, I think you’d be better off staying in Temecula.

[temeculaguy]

Fallbrook is a nice, quiet place. It is a conservative town but I think that is common in semi-rural areas. You have to ask Alan about the culture/vibe part, I’ve never really seen it as much of an entertainment mecca, just a sleepy avocado town with some nice houses and pretty landscape. Your ultra right wing friends that live there may have migrated there in the 1980’s when it was somewhat notorious because one of it’s residents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

As the base for the Grand Dragon of the KKK, it wasn’t exactly a “diverse” place. It’s been 20 years since that guy went to prison and nothing like it exists today to my knowledge but some people take a while to forget. I think the effect of the 1980’s have faded in the twenty years since but I imagine there are still some folks leftover.

[temeculaguy]

Fallbrook is a nice, quiet place. It is a conservative town but I think that is common in semi-rural areas. You have to ask Alan about the culture/vibe part, I’ve never really seen it as much of an entertainment mecca, just a sleepy avocado town with some nice houses and pretty landscape. Your ultra right wing friends that live there may have migrated there in the 1980’s when it was somewhat notorious because one of it’s residents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

As the base for the Grand Dragon of the KKK, it wasn’t exactly a “diverse” place. It’s been 20 years since that guy went to prison and nothing like it exists today to my knowledge but some people take a while to forget. I think the effect of the 1980’s have faded in the twenty years since but I imagine there are still some folks leftover.

[temeculaguy]

Fallbrook is a nice, quiet place. It is a conservative town but I think that is common in semi-rural areas. You have to ask Alan about the culture/vibe part, I’ve never really seen it as much of an entertainment mecca, just a sleepy avocado town with some nice houses and pretty landscape. Your ultra right wing friends that live there may have migrated there in the 1980’s when it was somewhat notorious because one of it’s residents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

As the base for the Grand Dragon of the KKK, it wasn’t exactly a “diverse” place. It’s been 20 years since that guy went to prison and nothing like it exists today to my knowledge but some people take a while to forget. I think the effect of the 1980’s have faded in the twenty years since but I imagine there are still some folks leftover.

[temeculaguy]

Fallbrook is a nice, quiet place. It is a conservative town but I think that is common in semi-rural areas. You have to ask Alan about the culture/vibe part, I’ve never really seen it as much of an entertainment mecca, just a sleepy avocado town with some nice houses and pretty landscape. Your ultra right wing friends that live there may have migrated there in the 1980’s when it was somewhat notorious because one of it’s residents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

As the base for the Grand Dragon of the KKK, it wasn’t exactly a “diverse” place. It’s been 20 years since that guy went to prison and nothing like it exists today to my knowledge but some people take a while to forget. I think the effect of the 1980’s have faded in the twenty years since but I imagine there are still some folks leftover.

[pizzaman]

Bugs
I did a test last summer, I drove from south Temecula (79 South) to Mission Road in Fallbrook and the temperature dropped 12 degrees, roughly 1 degree for every minute I drove. About that time we started talking about maybe moving there. Interesting to note, it takes me the same time to get from Hwy 79 in Temecula to Mission Rd as it does to get to my house in west Murrieta. (13 minutes).

Allan / anyone have any comments pro/con about Peppertree Park or Shady Grove in Fallbrook.
KB Homes has dropped the size and price of homes in Shady Grove quite a bit in the last year.

[temeculaguy]

Actually Pizza, I checked the weather channels website and ran the averages, Fallbrook is quite a bit cooler than even your one day sample. There are always hot days or hotter than average years but the Average high temp in July and August is only 82 compared to Temecula’s 98 for those same months. Where the weather station is in relation to a town can swing it a couple of degrees as well.

One thing not mentioned about the brook is the fire danger. There is a benefit to multi lane roads and tract homes. Be sure wherever you look in Fallbrook that there is a fire hydrant very near your house, communities at an elevation without a natural water supply can have trouble during fire season (ask Ramona) and this county burns down every four years, so be wary in your selection if you are looking far from town in the hills.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TG: Excellent point about the fires, especially in light of what just happened this year. You also forgot to mention that, in addition to the lower temps, we in Fallbrook are smarter and more physically attractive. =)

Pizza: KB is taking it in the shorts on that mini development. They are pushing those houses very strongly, and getting minimal (if any) response. As far as Pepper Tree Park goes, I live in the Pepper Tree area, slightly behind the development of the same name. What sort of information are you looking for?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TG: Excellent point about the fires, especially in light of what just happened this year. You also forgot to mention that, in addition to the lower temps, we in Fallbrook are smarter and more physically attractive. =)

Pizza: KB is taking it in the shorts on that mini development. They are pushing those houses very strongly, and getting minimal (if any) response. As far as Pepper Tree Park goes, I live in the Pepper Tree area, slightly behind the development of the same name. What sort of information are you looking for?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TG: Excellent point about the fires, especially in light of what just happened this year. You also forgot to mention that, in addition to the lower temps, we in Fallbrook are smarter and more physically attractive. =)

Pizza: KB is taking it in the shorts on that mini development. They are pushing those houses very strongly, and getting minimal (if any) response. As far as Pepper Tree Park goes, I live in the Pepper Tree area, slightly behind the development of the same name. What sort of information are you looking for?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TG: Excellent point about the fires, especially in light of what just happened this year. You also forgot to mention that, in addition to the lower temps, we in Fallbrook are smarter and more physically attractive. =)

Pizza: KB is taking it in the shorts on that mini development. They are pushing those houses very strongly, and getting minimal (if any) response. As far as Pepper Tree Park goes, I live in the Pepper Tree area, slightly behind the development of the same name. What sort of information are you looking for?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TG: Excellent point about the fires, especially in light of what just happened this year. You also forgot to mention that, in addition to the lower temps, we in Fallbrook are smarter and more physically attractive. =)

Pizza: KB is taking it in the shorts on that mini development. They are pushing those houses very strongly, and getting minimal (if any) response. As far as Pepper Tree Park goes, I live in the Pepper Tree area, slightly behind the development of the same name. What sort of information are you looking for?

[temeculaguy]

Actually Pizza, I checked the weather channels website and ran the averages, Fallbrook is quite a bit cooler than even your one day sample. There are always hot days or hotter than average years but the Average high temp in July and August is only 82 compared to Temecula’s 98 for those same months. Where the weather station is in relation to a town can swing it a couple of degrees as well.

One thing not mentioned about the brook is the fire danger. There is a benefit to multi lane roads and tract homes. Be sure wherever you look in Fallbrook that there is a fire hydrant very near your house, communities at an elevation without a natural water supply can have trouble during fire season (ask Ramona) and this county burns down every four years, so be wary in your selection if you are looking far from town in the hills.

[temeculaguy]

Actually Pizza, I checked the weather channels website and ran the averages, Fallbrook is quite a bit cooler than even your one day sample. There are always hot days or hotter than average years but the Average high temp in July and August is only 82 compared to Temecula’s 98 for those same months. Where the weather station is in relation to a town can swing it a couple of degrees as well.

One thing not mentioned about the brook is the fire danger. There is a benefit to multi lane roads and tract homes. Be sure wherever you look in Fallbrook that there is a fire hydrant very near your house, communities at an elevation without a natural water supply can have trouble during fire season (ask Ramona) and this county burns down every four years, so be wary in your selection if you are looking far from town in the hills.

[temeculaguy]

Actually Pizza, I checked the weather channels website and ran the averages, Fallbrook is quite a bit cooler than even your one day sample. There are always hot days or hotter than average years but the Average high temp in July and August is only 82 compared to Temecula’s 98 for those same months. Where the weather station is in relation to a town can swing it a couple of degrees as well.

One thing not mentioned about the brook is the fire danger. There is a benefit to multi lane roads and tract homes. Be sure wherever you look in Fallbrook that there is a fire hydrant very near your house, communities at an elevation without a natural water supply can have trouble during fire season (ask Ramona) and this county burns down every four years, so be wary in your selection if you are looking far from town in the hills.

[temeculaguy]

Actually Pizza, I checked the weather channels website and ran the averages, Fallbrook is quite a bit cooler than even your one day sample. There are always hot days or hotter than average years but the Average high temp in July and August is only 82 compared to Temecula’s 98 for those same months. Where the weather station is in relation to a town can swing it a couple of degrees as well.

One thing not mentioned about the brook is the fire danger. There is a benefit to multi lane roads and tract homes. Be sure wherever you look in Fallbrook that there is a fire hydrant very near your house, communities at an elevation without a natural water supply can have trouble during fire season (ask Ramona) and this county burns down every four years, so be wary in your selection if you are looking far from town in the hills.

[pizzaman]

Bugs
I did a test last summer, I drove from south Temecula (79 South) to Mission Road in Fallbrook and the temperature dropped 12 degrees, roughly 1 degree for every minute I drove. About that time we started talking about maybe moving there. Interesting to note, it takes me the same time to get from Hwy 79 in Temecula to Mission Rd as it does to get to my house in west Murrieta. (13 minutes).

Allan / anyone have any comments pro/con about Peppertree Park or Shady Grove in Fallbrook.
KB Homes has dropped the size and price of homes in Shady Grove quite a bit in the last year.

[pizzaman]

Bugs
I did a test last summer, I drove from south Temecula (79 South) to Mission Road in Fallbrook and the temperature dropped 12 degrees, roughly 1 degree for every minute I drove. About that time we started talking about maybe moving there. Interesting to note, it takes me the same time to get from Hwy 79 in Temecula to Mission Rd as it does to get to my house in west Murrieta. (13 minutes).

Allan / anyone have any comments pro/con about Peppertree Park or Shady Grove in Fallbrook.
KB Homes has dropped the size and price of homes in Shady Grove quite a bit in the last year.

[pizzaman]

Bugs
I did a test last summer, I drove from south Temecula (79 South) to Mission Road in Fallbrook and the temperature dropped 12 degrees, roughly 1 degree for every minute I drove. About that time we started talking about maybe moving there. Interesting to note, it takes me the same time to get from Hwy 79 in Temecula to Mission Rd as it does to get to my house in west Murrieta. (13 minutes).

Allan / anyone have any comments pro/con about Peppertree Park or Shady Grove in Fallbrook.
KB Homes has dropped the size and price of homes in Shady Grove quite a bit in the last year.

[pizzaman]

Bugs
I did a test last summer, I drove from south Temecula (79 South) to Mission Road in Fallbrook and the temperature dropped 12 degrees, roughly 1 degree for every minute I drove. About that time we started talking about maybe moving there. Interesting to note, it takes me the same time to get from Hwy 79 in Temecula to Mission Rd as it does to get to my house in west Murrieta. (13 minutes).

Allan / anyone have any comments pro/con about Peppertree Park or Shady Grove in Fallbrook.
KB Homes has dropped the size and price of homes in Shady Grove quite a bit in the last year.

[pizzaman]

Alan
I was looking for some local knowledge. Lawsuits, soils problems, high taxes anything that be worth knowing.

I stopped in to Shady Grove a while back and made the mistake of leaving my email address, now I have new friends. 🙂 Actually I kind of like the project since they added some smaller square foot models. Starting price is now down to $549,000, but your right it seems like they still can’t sell them. I am thinking about revisiting them this summer. I wonder if they can’t get any interest if they will blow them out? Any talk locally about the fate of this project?

[Bunny Meadows]

I think we looked at the KB development last summer. I’m pretty sure that with upgrades, the homes were close to $800K. There were no “standard” upgrades like there are in some of the Temecula new home communities.

Does anyone know what the lot sizes are?

[Bunny Meadows]

I think we looked at the KB development last summer. I’m pretty sure that with upgrades, the homes were close to $800K. There were no “standard” upgrades like there are in some of the Temecula new home communities.

Does anyone know what the lot sizes are?

[Bunny Meadows]

I think we looked at the KB development last summer. I’m pretty sure that with upgrades, the homes were close to $800K. There were no “standard” upgrades like there are in some of the Temecula new home communities.

Does anyone know what the lot sizes are?

[Bunny Meadows]

I think we looked at the KB development last summer. I’m pretty sure that with upgrades, the homes were close to $800K. There were no “standard” upgrades like there are in some of the Temecula new home communities.

Does anyone know what the lot sizes are?

[Bunny Meadows]

I think we looked at the KB development last summer. I’m pretty sure that with upgrades, the homes were close to $800K. There were no “standard” upgrades like there are in some of the Temecula new home communities.

Does anyone know what the lot sizes are?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pizza: The only real talk about the KB development is that it is foundering. Everyone in town REALLY appreciates the shiny new section of road they built on Stagecoach, though. They (KB) widened it, resurfaced it and added access for the older houses that fronted Stagecoach. Nicely done all the way around.

KB has signs all over Fallbrook pointing to the development, but not a lot of takers so far. My info is a little dated, but word was that KB had only sold single digits there. There are also several smaller three house spec projects by independent builders that have languished on the market (12+ mos) as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pizza: The only real talk about the KB development is that it is foundering. Everyone in town REALLY appreciates the shiny new section of road they built on Stagecoach, though. They (KB) widened it, resurfaced it and added access for the older houses that fronted Stagecoach. Nicely done all the way around.

KB has signs all over Fallbrook pointing to the development, but not a lot of takers so far. My info is a little dated, but word was that KB had only sold single digits there. There are also several smaller three house spec projects by independent builders that have languished on the market (12+ mos) as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pizza: The only real talk about the KB development is that it is foundering. Everyone in town REALLY appreciates the shiny new section of road they built on Stagecoach, though. They (KB) widened it, resurfaced it and added access for the older houses that fronted Stagecoach. Nicely done all the way around.

KB has signs all over Fallbrook pointing to the development, but not a lot of takers so far. My info is a little dated, but word was that KB had only sold single digits there. There are also several smaller three house spec projects by independent builders that have languished on the market (12+ mos) as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pizza: The only real talk about the KB development is that it is foundering. Everyone in town REALLY appreciates the shiny new section of road they built on Stagecoach, though. They (KB) widened it, resurfaced it and added access for the older houses that fronted Stagecoach. Nicely done all the way around.

KB has signs all over Fallbrook pointing to the development, but not a lot of takers so far. My info is a little dated, but word was that KB had only sold single digits there. There are also several smaller three house spec projects by independent builders that have languished on the market (12+ mos) as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pizza: The only real talk about the KB development is that it is foundering. Everyone in town REALLY appreciates the shiny new section of road they built on Stagecoach, though. They (KB) widened it, resurfaced it and added access for the older houses that fronted Stagecoach. Nicely done all the way around.

KB has signs all over Fallbrook pointing to the development, but not a lot of takers so far. My info is a little dated, but word was that KB had only sold single digits there. There are also several smaller three house spec projects by independent builders that have languished on the market (12+ mos) as well.

[pizzaman]

Alan
I was looking for some local knowledge. Lawsuits, soils problems, high taxes anything that be worth knowing.

I stopped in to Shady Grove a while back and made the mistake of leaving my email address, now I have new friends. 🙂 Actually I kind of like the project since they added some smaller square foot models. Starting price is now down to $549,000, but your right it seems like they still can’t sell them. I am thinking about revisiting them this summer. I wonder if they can’t get any interest if they will blow them out? Any talk locally about the fate of this project?

[pizzaman]

Alan
I was looking for some local knowledge. Lawsuits, soils problems, high taxes anything that be worth knowing.

I stopped in to Shady Grove a while back and made the mistake of leaving my email address, now I have new friends. 🙂 Actually I kind of like the project since they added some smaller square foot models. Starting price is now down to $549,000, but your right it seems like they still can’t sell them. I am thinking about revisiting them this summer. I wonder if they can’t get any interest if they will blow them out? Any talk locally about the fate of this project?

[pizzaman]

Alan
I was looking for some local knowledge. Lawsuits, soils problems, high taxes anything that be worth knowing.

I stopped in to Shady Grove a while back and made the mistake of leaving my email address, now I have new friends. 🙂 Actually I kind of like the project since they added some smaller square foot models. Starting price is now down to $549,000, but your right it seems like they still can’t sell them. I am thinking about revisiting them this summer. I wonder if they can’t get any interest if they will blow them out? Any talk locally about the fate of this project?

[pizzaman]

Alan
I was looking for some local knowledge. Lawsuits, soils problems, high taxes anything that be worth knowing.

I stopped in to Shady Grove a while back and made the mistake of leaving my email address, now I have new friends. 🙂 Actually I kind of like the project since they added some smaller square foot models. Starting price is now down to $549,000, but your right it seems like they still can’t sell them. I am thinking about revisiting them this summer. I wonder if they can’t get any interest if they will blow them out? Any talk locally about the fate of this project?

[anxvariety]

What about Rainbow? I don’t know much about it, have rented there before – had a nice view, but was quite far from grocery stores the nearest being in Temecula or Fallbrook.

[anxvariety]

What about Rainbow? I don’t know much about it, have rented there before – had a nice view, but was quite far from grocery stores the nearest being in Temecula or Fallbrook.

[anxvariety]

What about Rainbow? I don’t know much about it, have rented there before – had a nice view, but was quite far from grocery stores the nearest being in Temecula or Fallbrook.

[anxvariety]

What about Rainbow? I don’t know much about it, have rented there before – had a nice view, but was quite far from grocery stores the nearest being in Temecula or Fallbrook.

[anxvariety]

What about Rainbow? I don’t know much about it, have rented there before – had a nice view, but was quite far from grocery stores the nearest being in Temecula or Fallbrook.

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