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September 20, 2016 at 8:13 AM #801343September 20, 2016 at 10:27 AM #801345NotCrankyParticipant
Interesting stuff here.
September 20, 2016 at 2:46 PM #801347FlyerInHiGuest[quote=Blogstar]Interesting stuff here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hara_hachi_bun_me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa_diet
[/quote]interesting. The 80% rule is very common in Asia. I heard people say that 80% of your desires (in a spouse, life, etc…) is good enough.
I don’t know the history of Okinawa; but while pork is valued there, I don’t think it’s healthy. I know that pork was brought to the Pacific islands by Americans and that’s caused people to become obese. Pork has royally screwed up the diet of Pacific Islanders who used to be thin. They are almost all chubby now.
September 20, 2016 at 2:54 PM #801348The-ShovelerParticipantI may be wrong but I think the first Pacific Islanders brought their pigs with them.
I think the way they thought bigger was better as well.
But I could be wrong.
American’s just made it easy to find/get food.
America is a great place if you want to consume mass quantities of food cheaply LOL.
You will never starve as long as you have a Costco account LOL.September 20, 2016 at 9:01 PM #801351FlyerInHiGuestShoveler, you’re right. The Pacific Islanders had pigs before western colonialization.
America brought spam. During WWII, islanders were not allowed to fish so they became addicted to spam and processed food. So sad.
September 21, 2016 at 6:44 AM #801357svelteParticipant[quote=flu]
Vegan imho I think is overkill. If you stay with white meat or fish, and go light on the carbs, it’s probably more helpful. I use to eat a lot of bread and rice, and ever since I eat less of on the carbs, it’s been helpful too. Even lean red meat occasionally isn’t that bad i think. Going to in-out burger every other day, probably isn’t a good idea.
I also eat way too many bananas. I think I down about 4 a day….
I’ve been able to keep my weight around 162ish, and that includes presumably slightly more muscle and less body fat now, since I’m doing more weigh training in addition to running.
The first 15-20 lbs was easy. Burning off fat where I’m at has increasingly been more difficult. It’s like trying to undo decades of neglect. I just wish I had cared much earlier.[/quote]
Wow you and I are on virtually the same path – I’ve cut out the same things (plus pasta) with practically identical results (sleep, weight result).
I’m being pretty successful at staying in the low 160s and for my height that is well within the ideal weight range so I’m good. I weigh myself daily and adjust my eating the next few days if I feel I’m heading up at all.
September 21, 2016 at 6:52 AM #801361no_such_realityParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Calorie counting LOL, kind of have become obsessed with it.
For me (over 6’ Male) about 2500 Calories under normal activity is what I should burn a day.
I try to keep my intake to about 1500 to 1800 a day that should burn off the excess fat over time.
(I guess I will see if that works).
Walking or running the same distance burns about the same amount of calories so I try to keep walking whenever possible (run about half mile every day).[/quote]Jimho, you’re doing too big of a calorie deficit. Granted 7000 calories a week would only be just under two pounds, 2500 down to 1500 is a 40% reduction. Your body will see that as starvation mode.
Almost all the research shows dieting backfires long term for most.
If you’re 40/50s, just over 6 foot and your target weight is 200, 2500 calories is right if your active. If you have an office job, and your target weight is closer to 180 you may be over by 300 calories a day.
Don’t you think you’ll do better long term eating closer to your target weight zone ( provided it’s relatively close)?
September 21, 2016 at 7:00 AM #801362The-ShovelerParticipantI am not saying I am fat, but I need to lose another 15-20 pounds LOL.
If I get there I will eat more no problem LOL.
Anyway I feel a lot better than I used to so I am motivated now to keep it up.
September 21, 2016 at 8:39 AM #801365CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]
Wow you and I are on virtually the same path – I’ve cut out the same things (plus pasta) with practically identical results (sleep, weight result).
I’m being pretty successful at staying in the low 160s and for my height that is well within the ideal weight range so I’m good. I weigh myself daily and adjust my eating the next few days if I feel I’m heading up at all.[/quote]
Cool….
Giving up carbs was not easy on my part. I don’t like rice to begin with(I know, I’m asian, go figure), unless it’s fried rice or mexican rice …But I do like french bread, pasta, chips and salsa, tacos, burritos, pizza, and just about everything that has wrap on it.
I do eat some carbs, just sparingly. If I don’t eat any carbs, I start to get jittery and hungry, so I probably would end up eating more. Also, the problem I experienced with eating just vegetables and fruit with very little of meat or carbs, is that roughly 15 minutes after I eat and go the bathroom with a #2, i feel hungry again. So for me the key is just to keep a balanced meal.
The other thing that I noticed that was bad for me was the way we serve our meals: family style…. This has the unexpected consequences of me in the past of getting too much food, partly because we have a habit of trying not to leave any leftovers on the serving plates, especially when we’re really done eating and just talking. These day, I get everything I need on one plate. When I’m done, I’m done. If there’s leftovers, it goes in the trash or in the fridge. Clearing the leftovers ends up costing me more time/money I need to spend burning off the extra calories, ha ha.
September 21, 2016 at 8:41 AM #801366CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]
You will never starve as long as you have a Costco account LOL.[/quote]I use to joke about this along time ago… When someone asked, where should we eat, someone would say some place cheap. I would say “how about Costco Dim Sum” (the free samples)
September 21, 2016 at 9:54 AM #801367The-ShovelerParticipant[quote=flu][quote=The-Shoveler]
You will never starve as long as you have a Costco account LOL.[/quote]I use to joke about this along time ago… When someone asked, where should we eat, someone would say some place cheap. I would say “how about Costco Dim Sum” (the free samples)[/quote]
LOL, I easily pay for my membership with the free samples (and the hotdog+coke deal) when we are out on the weekends.
Really the membership is a great deal if you need to buy certain items every week or so + there is always something we find that it’s hard to find anywhere else.
Still need to hit the regular supermarket as well though.
September 21, 2016 at 4:52 PM #801399svelteParticipant[quote=no_such_reality]
If you’re 40/50s, just over 6 foot and your target weight is 200, 2500 calories is right if your active. [/quote]
If you’re about 6 ft, 200 lbs is not a good target.
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September 23, 2016 at 8:00 AM #801483moneymakerParticipantNice chart svelte!
Great, one more thing to worry about, in today’s paper on page B7, sorry could not link it, article that states
evidently there is a link between obesity and cancer.September 23, 2016 at 8:00 AM #801484fluParticipant[quote=moneymaker]Nice chart svelte!
Great one more thing to worry about http://enewspaper.sandiegouniontribune.com/desktop/sdut/default.aspx?pubid=ee84df93-f3c1-463c-a82f-1ab095a198ca
evidently there is a link between obesity and cancer[/quote]And joint problems and back problems…on and on….
September 23, 2016 at 8:01 AM #801485moneymakerParticipantYep, time to hit the treadmill!
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