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September 26, 2010 at 5:00 AM #610441September 26, 2010 at 5:21 AM #609380CascaParticipant
There was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.
September 26, 2010 at 5:21 AM #609467CascaParticipantThere was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.
September 26, 2010 at 5:21 AM #610023CascaParticipantThere was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.
September 26, 2010 at 5:21 AM #610133CascaParticipantThere was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.
September 26, 2010 at 5:21 AM #610445CascaParticipantThere was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.
September 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM #609400NotCrankyParticipantThe links are all very nice. I’ve seen a few nice adobes on acreage in Jamul.If I were to go rustic around here from scratch that would be tempting. There are some beautiful oak groves on seasonal creeks in several areas. Descanso too.An adobe or rock house, log cabin or some mixture of types, like the steel clad cabin linked, could be built around here. Our kids soccer coach said he is working on a high end, log cabin kit from British Colombia. This is not off the grid. Julian has some permitted off the grid areas.I think a back up generator with noise suppression is required.
Off the grid could be really fun. My neighbor has a really cool solar tracking well pump system. It wakes up every morning and locks in east, then tracks the sun all day. Not sure if it runs his pressure booster system or not. He did say he can store some excess energy.
Edit:With the aim of peace/natural beauty and privacy, if you haven’t thought about it, make sure you keep the current zoning in mind and check with planning to get a good idea of what could impact your chosen site in the future. I see people bent out of shape all the time because of what neighbors do even when it is within zoning parameters. I have been disappointed by a few changes in my area of mostly 20 acre and bigger properties that has a zoning for a minimum of 10. Some of the projects were “legal” some were not. In my case the trend is mostly best case scenario and following what I was told it would be by planning.
September 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM #609487NotCrankyParticipantThe links are all very nice. I’ve seen a few nice adobes on acreage in Jamul.If I were to go rustic around here from scratch that would be tempting. There are some beautiful oak groves on seasonal creeks in several areas. Descanso too.An adobe or rock house, log cabin or some mixture of types, like the steel clad cabin linked, could be built around here. Our kids soccer coach said he is working on a high end, log cabin kit from British Colombia. This is not off the grid. Julian has some permitted off the grid areas.I think a back up generator with noise suppression is required.
Off the grid could be really fun. My neighbor has a really cool solar tracking well pump system. It wakes up every morning and locks in east, then tracks the sun all day. Not sure if it runs his pressure booster system or not. He did say he can store some excess energy.
Edit:With the aim of peace/natural beauty and privacy, if you haven’t thought about it, make sure you keep the current zoning in mind and check with planning to get a good idea of what could impact your chosen site in the future. I see people bent out of shape all the time because of what neighbors do even when it is within zoning parameters. I have been disappointed by a few changes in my area of mostly 20 acre and bigger properties that has a zoning for a minimum of 10. Some of the projects were “legal” some were not. In my case the trend is mostly best case scenario and following what I was told it would be by planning.
September 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM #610042NotCrankyParticipantThe links are all very nice. I’ve seen a few nice adobes on acreage in Jamul.If I were to go rustic around here from scratch that would be tempting. There are some beautiful oak groves on seasonal creeks in several areas. Descanso too.An adobe or rock house, log cabin or some mixture of types, like the steel clad cabin linked, could be built around here. Our kids soccer coach said he is working on a high end, log cabin kit from British Colombia. This is not off the grid. Julian has some permitted off the grid areas.I think a back up generator with noise suppression is required.
Off the grid could be really fun. My neighbor has a really cool solar tracking well pump system. It wakes up every morning and locks in east, then tracks the sun all day. Not sure if it runs his pressure booster system or not. He did say he can store some excess energy.
Edit:With the aim of peace/natural beauty and privacy, if you haven’t thought about it, make sure you keep the current zoning in mind and check with planning to get a good idea of what could impact your chosen site in the future. I see people bent out of shape all the time because of what neighbors do even when it is within zoning parameters. I have been disappointed by a few changes in my area of mostly 20 acre and bigger properties that has a zoning for a minimum of 10. Some of the projects were “legal” some were not. In my case the trend is mostly best case scenario and following what I was told it would be by planning.
September 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM #610153NotCrankyParticipantThe links are all very nice. I’ve seen a few nice adobes on acreage in Jamul.If I were to go rustic around here from scratch that would be tempting. There are some beautiful oak groves on seasonal creeks in several areas. Descanso too.An adobe or rock house, log cabin or some mixture of types, like the steel clad cabin linked, could be built around here. Our kids soccer coach said he is working on a high end, log cabin kit from British Colombia. This is not off the grid. Julian has some permitted off the grid areas.I think a back up generator with noise suppression is required.
Off the grid could be really fun. My neighbor has a really cool solar tracking well pump system. It wakes up every morning and locks in east, then tracks the sun all day. Not sure if it runs his pressure booster system or not. He did say he can store some excess energy.
Edit:With the aim of peace/natural beauty and privacy, if you haven’t thought about it, make sure you keep the current zoning in mind and check with planning to get a good idea of what could impact your chosen site in the future. I see people bent out of shape all the time because of what neighbors do even when it is within zoning parameters. I have been disappointed by a few changes in my area of mostly 20 acre and bigger properties that has a zoning for a minimum of 10. Some of the projects were “legal” some were not. In my case the trend is mostly best case scenario and following what I was told it would be by planning.
September 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM #610465NotCrankyParticipantThe links are all very nice. I’ve seen a few nice adobes on acreage in Jamul.If I were to go rustic around here from scratch that would be tempting. There are some beautiful oak groves on seasonal creeks in several areas. Descanso too.An adobe or rock house, log cabin or some mixture of types, like the steel clad cabin linked, could be built around here. Our kids soccer coach said he is working on a high end, log cabin kit from British Colombia. This is not off the grid. Julian has some permitted off the grid areas.I think a back up generator with noise suppression is required.
Off the grid could be really fun. My neighbor has a really cool solar tracking well pump system. It wakes up every morning and locks in east, then tracks the sun all day. Not sure if it runs his pressure booster system or not. He did say he can store some excess energy.
Edit:With the aim of peace/natural beauty and privacy, if you haven’t thought about it, make sure you keep the current zoning in mind and check with planning to get a good idea of what could impact your chosen site in the future. I see people bent out of shape all the time because of what neighbors do even when it is within zoning parameters. I have been disappointed by a few changes in my area of mostly 20 acre and bigger properties that has a zoning for a minimum of 10. Some of the projects were “legal” some were not. In my case the trend is mostly best case scenario and following what I was told it would be by planning.
September 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM #609421eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Casca]There was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.[/quote]
Casca, I can relate. I’m definitely a sucker for early 20th century cabins/lodges. I have a neighbor down by our weekend (hopefully retirement) place in central Virginia who own a rustic lodge. I walked into this place, and totally felt like I was in a very well cared-for Maine fishing/hunting camp, circa 1915. Two-story main room with 25-foot native stone fireplace, canoes and other artifacts resting on the rafters and hanging from the walls. Four bedrooms, and a couple baths. A second-floor gallery surrounding the main room, bordering four more bedrooms with baths. Interesting note: original structure had no kitchen.
I was shocked to learn that the building had actually deteriorated to the point that it was being used as a farm outbuilding where hay was stored, and in which local children played and explored over the years. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, an ambitious out-of-towner bought the place and spared no expense in restoring it. What he could save, he re-used; what he could not, he replaced with architectural salvage or high-quality reproductions. The building was constructed, inside and out, of American chestnut from trees on the property. Prior to the mid-century chestnut blight, the region had one of the most lavish supplies of American chestnut trees in the country, and there are many large houses, barns and outbuildings in our area that were constructed from this great wood.
The property has a 1600 sf Craftsman cottage approx. 30 yards from the lodge, so it’s possible that a caretaker/ housekeeper lived there, preparing food for the lodge guests, which could explain the omission. In any case, the gentleman who rehabbed the place did not feel the need to add one (could have been he felt it would negatively impact the architectural integrity and character), and it came back to bite him when he put the property up for sale. The real estate market in the area was incredibly hot after 9/11 (people wanted a “safe” area within 3 hours of DC), but it took almost a year to sell. The buyers were able to use that to negotiate a much more reasonable price, and installed a compact kitchen in the lodge’s finished basement.
It really is a stunning place, but I don’t envy them the maintenance on the property and on the structure. And there are major energy efficiency issues. But I can’t help but be pleased that such a gorgeous structure was saved from demolition. A lot of that goes on there, and while there are people who recycle the chestnut and other woods, much of it is discarded or burned. Very sad.
September 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM #609507eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Casca]There was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.[/quote]
Casca, I can relate. I’m definitely a sucker for early 20th century cabins/lodges. I have a neighbor down by our weekend (hopefully retirement) place in central Virginia who own a rustic lodge. I walked into this place, and totally felt like I was in a very well cared-for Maine fishing/hunting camp, circa 1915. Two-story main room with 25-foot native stone fireplace, canoes and other artifacts resting on the rafters and hanging from the walls. Four bedrooms, and a couple baths. A second-floor gallery surrounding the main room, bordering four more bedrooms with baths. Interesting note: original structure had no kitchen.
I was shocked to learn that the building had actually deteriorated to the point that it was being used as a farm outbuilding where hay was stored, and in which local children played and explored over the years. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, an ambitious out-of-towner bought the place and spared no expense in restoring it. What he could save, he re-used; what he could not, he replaced with architectural salvage or high-quality reproductions. The building was constructed, inside and out, of American chestnut from trees on the property. Prior to the mid-century chestnut blight, the region had one of the most lavish supplies of American chestnut trees in the country, and there are many large houses, barns and outbuildings in our area that were constructed from this great wood.
The property has a 1600 sf Craftsman cottage approx. 30 yards from the lodge, so it’s possible that a caretaker/ housekeeper lived there, preparing food for the lodge guests, which could explain the omission. In any case, the gentleman who rehabbed the place did not feel the need to add one (could have been he felt it would negatively impact the architectural integrity and character), and it came back to bite him when he put the property up for sale. The real estate market in the area was incredibly hot after 9/11 (people wanted a “safe” area within 3 hours of DC), but it took almost a year to sell. The buyers were able to use that to negotiate a much more reasonable price, and installed a compact kitchen in the lodge’s finished basement.
It really is a stunning place, but I don’t envy them the maintenance on the property and on the structure. And there are major energy efficiency issues. But I can’t help but be pleased that such a gorgeous structure was saved from demolition. A lot of that goes on there, and while there are people who recycle the chestnut and other woods, much of it is discarded or burned. Very sad.
September 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM #610062eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Casca]There was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.[/quote]
Casca, I can relate. I’m definitely a sucker for early 20th century cabins/lodges. I have a neighbor down by our weekend (hopefully retirement) place in central Virginia who own a rustic lodge. I walked into this place, and totally felt like I was in a very well cared-for Maine fishing/hunting camp, circa 1915. Two-story main room with 25-foot native stone fireplace, canoes and other artifacts resting on the rafters and hanging from the walls. Four bedrooms, and a couple baths. A second-floor gallery surrounding the main room, bordering four more bedrooms with baths. Interesting note: original structure had no kitchen.
I was shocked to learn that the building had actually deteriorated to the point that it was being used as a farm outbuilding where hay was stored, and in which local children played and explored over the years. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, an ambitious out-of-towner bought the place and spared no expense in restoring it. What he could save, he re-used; what he could not, he replaced with architectural salvage or high-quality reproductions. The building was constructed, inside and out, of American chestnut from trees on the property. Prior to the mid-century chestnut blight, the region had one of the most lavish supplies of American chestnut trees in the country, and there are many large houses, barns and outbuildings in our area that were constructed from this great wood.
The property has a 1600 sf Craftsman cottage approx. 30 yards from the lodge, so it’s possible that a caretaker/ housekeeper lived there, preparing food for the lodge guests, which could explain the omission. In any case, the gentleman who rehabbed the place did not feel the need to add one (could have been he felt it would negatively impact the architectural integrity and character), and it came back to bite him when he put the property up for sale. The real estate market in the area was incredibly hot after 9/11 (people wanted a “safe” area within 3 hours of DC), but it took almost a year to sell. The buyers were able to use that to negotiate a much more reasonable price, and installed a compact kitchen in the lodge’s finished basement.
It really is a stunning place, but I don’t envy them the maintenance on the property and on the structure. And there are major energy efficiency issues. But I can’t help but be pleased that such a gorgeous structure was saved from demolition. A lot of that goes on there, and while there are people who recycle the chestnut and other woods, much of it is discarded or burned. Very sad.
September 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM #610173eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Casca]There was a beautiful vintage (1935) stone cabin in Pine Valley, that went for a song about a year and a half ago. I lusted mightily for it.[/quote]
Casca, I can relate. I’m definitely a sucker for early 20th century cabins/lodges. I have a neighbor down by our weekend (hopefully retirement) place in central Virginia who own a rustic lodge. I walked into this place, and totally felt like I was in a very well cared-for Maine fishing/hunting camp, circa 1915. Two-story main room with 25-foot native stone fireplace, canoes and other artifacts resting on the rafters and hanging from the walls. Four bedrooms, and a couple baths. A second-floor gallery surrounding the main room, bordering four more bedrooms with baths. Interesting note: original structure had no kitchen.
I was shocked to learn that the building had actually deteriorated to the point that it was being used as a farm outbuilding where hay was stored, and in which local children played and explored over the years. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, an ambitious out-of-towner bought the place and spared no expense in restoring it. What he could save, he re-used; what he could not, he replaced with architectural salvage or high-quality reproductions. The building was constructed, inside and out, of American chestnut from trees on the property. Prior to the mid-century chestnut blight, the region had one of the most lavish supplies of American chestnut trees in the country, and there are many large houses, barns and outbuildings in our area that were constructed from this great wood.
The property has a 1600 sf Craftsman cottage approx. 30 yards from the lodge, so it’s possible that a caretaker/ housekeeper lived there, preparing food for the lodge guests, which could explain the omission. In any case, the gentleman who rehabbed the place did not feel the need to add one (could have been he felt it would negatively impact the architectural integrity and character), and it came back to bite him when he put the property up for sale. The real estate market in the area was incredibly hot after 9/11 (people wanted a “safe” area within 3 hours of DC), but it took almost a year to sell. The buyers were able to use that to negotiate a much more reasonable price, and installed a compact kitchen in the lodge’s finished basement.
It really is a stunning place, but I don’t envy them the maintenance on the property and on the structure. And there are major energy efficiency issues. But I can’t help but be pleased that such a gorgeous structure was saved from demolition. A lot of that goes on there, and while there are people who recycle the chestnut and other woods, much of it is discarded or burned. Very sad.
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