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August 23, 2007 at 3:13 PM #79975August 23, 2007 at 3:25 PM #80129kewpParticipant
If lots of folks were sitting on cash, I doubt the US savings rate would be negative.
August 23, 2007 at 3:25 PM #79978kewpParticipantIf lots of folks were sitting on cash, I doubt the US savings rate would be negative.
August 23, 2007 at 3:25 PM #80106kewpParticipantIf lots of folks were sitting on cash, I doubt the US savings rate would be negative.
August 23, 2007 at 3:29 PM #80138NavydocParticipant“they never even dreamed they would have 1 or 2 hundred thousand in cash, they ain’t given it up!!”
Oh yes they are. If not to the bank, then the IRS for the debt forgiveness 1099 they’re going to get. Or to the court for the summary judgement. Don’t worry, they won’t be able to hide it all. I’m a big believer in poetic justice.
August 23, 2007 at 3:29 PM #79987NavydocParticipant“they never even dreamed they would have 1 or 2 hundred thousand in cash, they ain’t given it up!!”
Oh yes they are. If not to the bank, then the IRS for the debt forgiveness 1099 they’re going to get. Or to the court for the summary judgement. Don’t worry, they won’t be able to hide it all. I’m a big believer in poetic justice.
August 23, 2007 at 3:29 PM #80115NavydocParticipant“they never even dreamed they would have 1 or 2 hundred thousand in cash, they ain’t given it up!!”
Oh yes they are. If not to the bank, then the IRS for the debt forgiveness 1099 they’re going to get. Or to the court for the summary judgement. Don’t worry, they won’t be able to hide it all. I’m a big believer in poetic justice.
August 23, 2007 at 3:37 PM #80144mgubnyc1ParticipantThis may be why economy hasn’t plunged into a recession.
Yes I agree a hell of alot more people lost more money then made, and even more people threw it it away, but there are lots of people that made alot of money very quickly, very easily. I just don’t want to see my tax dollars ending up paying their mortgage payments!!!August 23, 2007 at 3:37 PM #79993mgubnyc1ParticipantThis may be why economy hasn’t plunged into a recession.
Yes I agree a hell of alot more people lost more money then made, and even more people threw it it away, but there are lots of people that made alot of money very quickly, very easily. I just don’t want to see my tax dollars ending up paying their mortgage payments!!!August 23, 2007 at 3:37 PM #80122mgubnyc1ParticipantThis may be why economy hasn’t plunged into a recession.
Yes I agree a hell of alot more people lost more money then made, and even more people threw it it away, but there are lots of people that made alot of money very quickly, very easily. I just don’t want to see my tax dollars ending up paying their mortgage payments!!!August 23, 2007 at 3:50 PM #80128mgubnyc1Participantpoetic justice, what are you a poet? what are we talking about here?? If the State or Federal goverment make it possible for these people to reduce their payments and stay in those homes, they won’t have to worry about the IRS or the debt forgiveness 1099 there won’t be one!
August 23, 2007 at 3:50 PM #79998mgubnyc1Participantpoetic justice, what are you a poet? what are we talking about here?? If the State or Federal goverment make it possible for these people to reduce their payments and stay in those homes, they won’t have to worry about the IRS or the debt forgiveness 1099 there won’t be one!
August 23, 2007 at 3:50 PM #80150mgubnyc1Participantpoetic justice, what are you a poet? what are we talking about here?? If the State or Federal goverment make it possible for these people to reduce their payments and stay in those homes, they won’t have to worry about the IRS or the debt forgiveness 1099 there won’t be one!
August 23, 2007 at 6:35 PM #80084AnonymousGuestMy wife is a realtor in central CA where we have also witnessed insane run ups due to ridiculous lending standards. She has first hand knowledge of the circumstances of the “poor american families” on the brink of losing their homes. The large majority bought their million-dollar tract homes with a complete understanding that they would not be able to meet their adjustable rate without the help of a home value appreciation cash out. It beat the alternative, remaining in a depressed neighborhood and waiting until their finances allowed for a reasonable step up. The latter requires effort, patience and (dare I say) fiscal responsibility. Instead they were able to live well for a few years, refi on an inflated appraisal, and use the cash for new cars and furniture (ie no money to recapture even if the banks/government wanted to). Whats next? List the house as a short sale on the slim hope of saving a credit rating that was poor to begin with, eventually foreclose, return to the original neighboorhood with a paid-for Hummer, Lexus and more Ethan Allen furntiture than you can stuff into the rental house. Who pays? It’s an election year so we must have bail outs. And our new Fed, long before the crisis has truly developed, has spinelessly conceded a rate cut and pumped the M1 money supply with billions. So ultimately you and I will cover the bill in the form of runaway inflation. Buy gold!
August 23, 2007 at 6:35 PM #80211AnonymousGuestMy wife is a realtor in central CA where we have also witnessed insane run ups due to ridiculous lending standards. She has first hand knowledge of the circumstances of the “poor american families” on the brink of losing their homes. The large majority bought their million-dollar tract homes with a complete understanding that they would not be able to meet their adjustable rate without the help of a home value appreciation cash out. It beat the alternative, remaining in a depressed neighborhood and waiting until their finances allowed for a reasonable step up. The latter requires effort, patience and (dare I say) fiscal responsibility. Instead they were able to live well for a few years, refi on an inflated appraisal, and use the cash for new cars and furniture (ie no money to recapture even if the banks/government wanted to). Whats next? List the house as a short sale on the slim hope of saving a credit rating that was poor to begin with, eventually foreclose, return to the original neighboorhood with a paid-for Hummer, Lexus and more Ethan Allen furntiture than you can stuff into the rental house. Who pays? It’s an election year so we must have bail outs. And our new Fed, long before the crisis has truly developed, has spinelessly conceded a rate cut and pumped the M1 money supply with billions. So ultimately you and I will cover the bill in the form of runaway inflation. Buy gold!
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