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January 23, 2017 at 4:34 PM #805068January 23, 2017 at 7:21 PM #805072
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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Good point ZK. Trump’s talk doesn’t match his cabinet and perhaps the policies of his administration.
As far a Supreme Court picks, I’m ok with sending issues back to the states. States that pursue retrograde policies would lose population and business. People will vote with their feet. Plus on important issues, people need something to be passionate about and fight at the legislative level. I’m ok with the Supreme Court overturning Roe v wade and gay marriage. Congress and the states would fix it.[/quote]
You make an interesting point.
I don’t know about those states losing population and business, though. Some people might move to those states. And good for them, if that’s what they want. Sucks for the people that live there and don’t want those policies, but that’s no different from living in America and not wanting trump for president. Sucks, but we have to deal with it.
But I’m not sure that “sending issues back to the states” is the biggest difference between a conservative and a liberal judge.
January 24, 2017 at 10:35 AM #805103FlyerInHi
GuestThe world is changing and talented people all want to live in first tier metros. They won’t stay in small and mid towns. It may suck for people in cities like Raleigh, NC or Bloomington, IN. But let them drive out the vote and change their states. Let the states change from within rather than have them resist change imposed from the Feds.
I would say that most talented, educated people prefer liberal metros and states. Perhaps 30 – 45% may be Republican because they want lower taxes and regulations for themselves. Essentially, they conflate what is good for some individuals to what is best for the aggregate.
They’ll say “look at Texas or Arizona.” But I don’t see ‘m guys hauling ass to the red states. ‘Em people who do are the ones who can’t make it in Cali, so good riddance, we need more room for talented immigrants.
January 24, 2017 at 9:26 PM #805111ParticipantI didn’t see this coming, but I probably should have:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15822X
Can’t have all that pesky information so readily available to the public.
Do any of you trump voters agree with this move? Can you explain why? Can you explain how this is good for the people in any way?
Oh wait, I forgot. Nobody here will admit they even voted for trump. Except maybe bg, and we haven’t heard from her since the election.
Didn’t trump say in his inauguration speech that, starting now, the power is being transferred to the people? This move proves that claim to be total BS.
January 24, 2017 at 10:54 PM #805114GuestZk, i take comfort reading Garrison Keillor’s columns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/help-us-gop-youre-our-only-hope/2017/01/24/56bca6ce-e27a-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b95e71289691Here’s another proof that Trumpadors are stupid and gullible:
I had dinner with my cousin tonight. Very logical PhD in bioscience. We were talking about the wapo piece about how “dignity” made Trump president. His voters wanted to regain “dignity.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/01/24/arthur-brooks-the-word-dignity-explains-why-trump-is-president/?utm_term=.746eb4d0fba9Dignity? WTF!? These demographics voted for Reagan over a decent, compassionate guy. Reagan deregulated. Duh! What did they think would happen? Now these guys support Trump who wants to reregulate and erect barriers while deregulating at the same time. All for dignity? stupid idiots. I don’t think they have any dignity.
January 25, 2017 at 8:31 AM #805121ParticipantAnother day, another stupid move by trump.
He wants to waste taxpayer money to chase his fantasy that he won the popular vote? Any of you trump voters want him spending your money to do that?
January 25, 2017 at 8:35 AM #805122spdrun
ParticipantHe won. He’s President. Why does he care?
Honestly, his word salad, delusions, and paranoia smell of early stage senile dementia.
January 25, 2017 at 9:07 AM #805124ParticipantI predict that trump’s narcissism will have much more serious consequences in the future than a desire to spend taxpayer money to boost his ego. I predict that, at some point, he’ll fly into a narcissistic rage when somebody or something or everybody or everything doesn’t agree with him. It might not be the end of civilization as we know it (although that could happen, too), but it will be bad.
January 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM #805123Participant[quote=spdrun]
He won. He’s President. Why does he care?[/quote]
He cares (as much as he does) because he’s mentally ill. He cares because he’s a narcissist. Not a narcissist in the, “my sister talks about herself all the time; she’s a narcissist,” nor in the “Bob thinks he’s the greatest; he’s such a narcissist” sense. More in the medically diagnosable sense. Losing the popular vote does not result in the status/admiration that he needs. Losing the popular vote is probably impossible to take for him.
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Honestly, his word salad, delusions, and paranoia smell of early stage senile dementia.[/quote]Yeah, they kinda do. But it seems to me he’s always been that way.
January 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM #805128GuestZK, there is one advantage to Trump. His supporters went Trump or bust. If he wins then all is well and everyone happy. If bust, then we’ll be rid of the Trumpadors. Win-win for America.
An analogy would that that in a rising market, everyone is happy. Better make sure you have plan B during crash. I don’t think Trumpadors have Plan B.
January 25, 2017 at 12:03 PM #805130Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]If bust, then we’ll be rid of the Trumpadors. Win-win for America.
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That depends on the magnitude of the bust.
If there’s, say, a trade war that causes an economic crash that will take a decade or more to fix, or, god forbid he goads North Korea into nuking us, or his inept administration can’t keep terrorists from nuking us, or we end up at war with China, (this list really could go on and on…so many bad scenarios) then it’s not a win-win.
January 25, 2017 at 12:59 PM #805131GuestThat’s true, ZK. Mentally ill Trump and mentally ill Kim going at each other would be bad.
My cousin made a good point last night. He said that people voted for Trump because they are not able to detach their own “dignity” from policy. Plus people inherently think that resources are finite so they cannot see win-win. Trumpadors see the Chinese getting rich and buying houses in USA, so somehow they feel “ripped off” of something that is “rightfully theirs.”. They can’t see that the Chinese getting rich is good for us because we can trade more with them. Win -win.
They think the 1950s were better because, at that time, the white man was relatively more powerful than all the other groups, although in real terms he was poorer than he is today. People judge themselves in relation to others. That’s where the feeling of relevance and dignity comes from. They want to be big fish in small pond. Very parochial thinking. So a wealthy globalized world is hard for people to comprehend and embrace.
Ideally, people need to realize that, individually, they are no big deal. They shouldn’t feel jealous or envious of other people (I think Bible teaches that). Other people doing well, or rising faster is actually good for humanity.
In the competitive world of NY real estate, Trump also doesn’t believe in win-win. A deal that he gets means someone else lost. So he’s a perfect match for his supporters.
January 25, 2017 at 9:11 PM #805141Guest[quote=zk]
Another day, another stupid move by trump.
He wants to waste taxpayer money to chase his fantasy that he won the popular vote? Any of you trump voters want him spending your money to do that?[/quote]
Thinking about this more, reading more articles, it’s a smart move on Trump’s part.
His supporters believe deep down that their country has been “taken away” from them. Trump is there to restore the rightful ownership. Trump is setting the stage for when he fails, he can blame it on the rigged establishment. His supporters will go to their graves believing their country has been “stolen.”
January 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM #805142
CoronitaParticipantLol… Rap battle between Hillary and Trump….
January 26, 2017 at 9:33 PM #805160ParticipantAnother day, another stupid action by trump.
He tweets:
“If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting.”
Why would he tweet something that has no upside but plenty of downside?
Is he too simple to understand a better way to go about it?
Is he not aware how it will be taken?
Does he just want to poke Nieto because he (trump) can’t resist poking someone?
I think it’s worse than those. I think he’s too lazy to put any effort into the situation. I’m going to put more effort into this post on my break at work than I think he has put into the United States’ relationship with Mexico.
He operates on impulse. There’s no plan. There’s no thought. There’s no weighing of factors. There’s no strategy. There’s no studying the information. There’s no effort at all.
Just an impulse and a tweet.
That’s no way to run a country. This presidency won’t end well.
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