Off topic “coronavirus”

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Again, mistranslation wins the day … outdoor physical activity, dog walking, etc are still allowed in France, just not in groups. You just have to carry a form pinky-swearing your reason to be out or be fined the equivalent of $40.[/quote]

There’s no mistranslation. High density population living quarters in this scenario will lead to a much high chance of spreading infection. Any sort of quarantine now is just trying to control it after the fact. Doesn’t matter that you can take a dog walk as long as you are 6 feet away from households during emergency orders.

[Coronita]

[quote]
“Hello,

To protect the health of our customers, agents and communities, we’re canceling open houses for all homes listed by Redfin’s brokerage, and limiting private in-person tours of all listings to two customers per tour. We’re still serving thousands of buyers and sellers each day, but with new rules and new technologies.

We’ve Spent a Decade Preparing for This Day
No brokerage has invested more in preparations for virtual open houses, virtual tours, virtual contracts and closings. The coronavirus has just made the future we’ve been preparing for come sooner.

Three-Dimensional Scans on All Homes Listed by Redfin.com
Our listing customers shouldn’t worry about canceled open houses. Since we publish interactive, three-dimensional scans of all homes listed by Redfin agents, buyers can still explore every nook and cranny of a home for sale without creating a public-health risk. We run a digital-marketing campaign for every listing to bring plenty of folks through your home online.

Video-Chat Tours of Any Listing, Including Homes Listed by Other Brokerages
Homes listed by other brokerages can be toured in person or virtually, via a video chat. On a video-chat tour, a Redfin agent broadcasts what we see on a walkthrough of the home, responding to your requests to pan left or zoom in. Schedule the tour as before, but follow the online prompts to ask for a video-chat tour.

Precautions for In-Person Tours
We’re still also hosting in-person tours of listings, but with precautions to protect your health:

Virtual tours for anyone with a sniffle: no one should tour with cold or flu symptoms. If you’re sick or might be sick, just ask for a video-chat tour.

A healthy agent: because our agents work in teams, if one agent has a cough, we’ll find another to host the showing.

Avoiding close contact: Redfin agents won’t ask customers to shake hands, staying six feet away from you throughout the tour. We won’t enter small bathrooms or crawl spaces.

We’ll Be Straight With You Through the Ups and Downs
We’ve also been publishing weekly real-time data on sales activity from buyers and sellers and surveys of consumers and agents. Because Redfin runs a website and a brokerage backed by one enormous customer database, we know before almost anyone else what’s happening to demand. And because we’re Redfin, we’ll be straight with you about what we know.

Over the Past Few Days, The Housing Market Took a Hit
Demand held up surprisingly well until the stock-market panic on Thursday, March 12. But with measures to slow the spread of coronavirus expanding to more cities, we expect that this Wednesday’s report will show a big drop in activity. Some buyers will see this as an opportunity to get the home of their dreams at a good price, with historically low mortgage rates. Others will wait until the end of the recession that has almost certainly begun.

We’re Here for You
We’re still a small business, and a service business through and through. We’re taking care of our agents, with health-care benefits and now much higher levels of base pay for people who are sick or at home with their kids. Now more than ever, we need to take care of you. If you have a question, please respond to this email or visit support.redfin.com.

Stay healthy! And thank you for your support,
Redfin”

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[sdduuuude]

In the US today, of the 3916 active cases, only 12 are serious or critical. Seems like that is a lower percentage than it was a couple days ago but I don’t really remember. It is much lower than Italy’s 8%.

Things are looking genuinely exponential, though. Maybe we’ll see in the data effects of this weekends shutdowns around the 27th or so.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[outtamojo]

I am going to avoid people aged 16 to 30. These people are more likely to feel minimal effect of infection and be unknowing carriers. Old people that are not sick I think are safer to be around.
All my opinion of course.

[ucodegen]

[quote=Coronita][quote=svelte][quote=Coronita][quote=svelte]…[/quote]

Basically, the websites are keeping a cookie in your browser. That’s why you use to be able to open a private browser and it would work because private browsers don’t keep cookies once you close them. But a lot of websites got smart and won’t let you view in a private browser now. What you can do is create a new profile in chrome that you don’t care about, and simply clear your browser history and reopen your browser.[/quote]
Or configure your browser to delete all cookies when closing/exiting the browser completely. Side effect will be the ‘keep me logged in’ on web sites will no longer work. Considering that cookie values can be snaffled up by hackers, it is not a good way to maintain a web page connection though.

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=Coronita][quote=svelte][quote=Coronita][quote=svelte]…[/quote]

Basically, the websites are keeping a cookie in your browser. That’s why you use to be able to open a private browser and it would work because private browsers don’t keep cookies once you close them. But a lot of websites got smart and won’t let you view in a private browser now. What you can do is create a new profile in chrome that you don’t care about, and simply clear your browser history and reopen your browser.[/quote]
Or configure your browser to delete all cookies when closing/exiting the browser completely. Side effect will be the ‘keep me logged in’ on web sites will no longer work. Considering that cookie values can be snaffled up by hackers, it is not a good way to maintain a web page connection though.[/quote]

Chrome/Firefox let’s you configure different profiles, so I created one just so that.i could clear cookies/cache. I use a separate profile when I need to login to something important. that way I don’t save my passwords for my bank account into profiles that I use to surf news articles. I also create separate profiles on my work machines and don’t save any passwords. I don’t trust any IT admin who has full access to my machine.

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Interesting article on how China beat back the virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/locked-down-in-beijing-i-watched-china-beat-back-the-coronavirus/2020/03/16/f839d686-6727-11ea-b199-3a9799c54512_story.html%5B/quote%5D
You just proved my contention that China was more of a “dystopian surveillance state”. China uses the cell phone as a spying tool. It reports your current position continually – much more effective tracking tool than anything else possible… and the people.. just.. can’t… put… the… thing… down!! or… leave… it… behind!!

Note: everything is tied to cell number in China — see quote from your own reference:

To help the nationwide social-mapping effort — and, I suspect, feed the government’s ever-growing appetite for personal data — I begrudgingly gave my mobile number to government workers at every train station, checked in via smartphone app to enter office buildings and recited my passport number just to eat at a rare restaurant that remained open.

and

As restrictions on mobility tightened last month, the lowest unit of the Chinese government that I never paid attention to — the neighborhood committees — suddenly loomed large in my life. The first day of my quarantine, workers brought me inside a district office swarming with 20- and 30-something volunteers to collect information about my identity, my travel history, my workplace.

Your original comment:
[quote=FlyerInHi]ucodegen, you’re giving China too much credit for running a dystopian surveillance state. It’s actually very easy to travel in and out of China. They just don’t tolerate critics or political dissidents. Freedom of movement is just like here in USA. The only difference is that residents cannot get social services but at their bonafide hometowns. it’s difficult to change hometown registration.[/quote]

Also look up China’s “Social Credit”. Say something that the establishment does not like, and your access to loans and jobs disappears. Imagine the US.. say something that Trump does not like and your access to loans and jobs disappears…

When I made the original comment about their surveillance state – I also was aligning it to the possibility that it was core to their faster recovery from COVID-19 and that implementing something similar would be problematic in the US and other democracies.

[FlyerInHi]

Ucodegen, with you it seems like China can never do good. It will fail because it’s a dystopian surveillance state. When it succeeds it’s because it’s a dictatorship.

Ideology has nothing to do with China. China has good management and they do what works. Chinese technocrats mostly have PhD (maybe1/2 of them front the West). China has changed a lot. It used to be run by peasant revolutionaries, but now it’s run by very good managers. All the while, in USA, we appoint political hacks.

Just watch Ian Bremmer looking so sad. He consults CEOs so he’s on the right.

[zk]

[quote=sdduuuude]In the US today, of the 3916 active cases, only 12 are serious or critical. Seems like that is a lower percentage than it was a couple days ago but I don’t really remember. It is much lower than Italy’s 8%.

Things are looking genuinely exponential, though. Maybe we’ll see in the data effects of this weekends shutdowns around the 27th or so.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/%5B/quote%5D

That’s the number of confirmed, tested cases (over 5,000 now). Until tests are way, way, WAY easier to get, we won’t know what’s happening. We really have no idea how many cases there are.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/03/who-gets-tested-coronavirus/607999/

[Coronita]

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/by-the-numbers-sds-hospital-bed-count-too-low-for-number-of-potential-coronavirus-patients/2286873/

This is what many of us were saying about a shortage of hospital beds… Only the numbers are actually worse than estimated. I generously thought the bed to patient ratio was roughly 1 hospital bed to 2 patients for San Diego County.

But the numbers are looking closer to 1 ICU bed to 30 patients.

Unrelated, it’s unlikely any of things will return back to normal by May. It’s looking more like end of July/August, which pretty much is the end of any sort of summer break. That about kills the tourism industry this year.

[Anonymous]

destinations like San Diego that depends on car travelers for most of their tourists should fare OK. Destinations like Vegas that depend upon tourists flying in could be headed for municipal bankruptcies

[Coronita]

[quote=TheBrianNarrative]destinations like San Diego that depends on car travelers for most of their tourists should fare OK. Destinations like Vegas that depend upon tourists flying in could be headed for municipal bankruptcies[/quote]

Maybe, I’m looking more like activity that allows one to be outdoors like beaches hiking, water rafting, etc probably ok…. Recreation in tight and confined areas like cruises and casino, not ok until there’s a vaccine. around 18months in the best case.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=Coronita]MGM and Wynn resorts shutting down. Also locally, most of the casinos are shutting down too, bars and clubs. Total closure. Traffic will be great though :)[/quote]

This will get real crappy real quick economically unless uncle Sam starts sending out checks real soon.[/quote]

Well it seems Cash drop is coming soon, but IMO it will get old real quick, maybe one or two more of these then I think they declare Victory !!

[FlyerInHi]

The discounts following the next recession will be commensurate with the economy.

I guess Orlando is toast. How much will housing be discounted? Long term, I think it’s good buy….. but too far for me.

[Anonymous]

Get ready for the Trump Republican Socialist Handout of the 2020 Election Year Act

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