Time to fire 30% of public employees

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[quote=CA renter]
-Oversight of public employees is standardized, more thorough, and has provisions which help minimize nepotism and favoritism, giving superior employees greater ability to move to more responsible positons. Nothing is perfect, and one can certainly take issue with some seniority clauses, but overall, it’s much more likely to reward better and more efficient employees.

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I am glad you can atleast achnoledge this point. I have a close friend who works in the Bay area in city gov. She is supper smart, very dedicated, and organized to a fault.

Now she works in gov and is moving through the ranks. Problem is, her bosses keep trying to promote her and the union keeps stoping it because she isnt senior enough. They once had to promote someone who wasnt qualified or ready (according to her) because she hadnt been in her current position for over 6 months and so couldnt be promoted. That is pathetic. She is a minority, a she, not really a looker in ANY way, and an introvert more than an extrovert. She isnt charming the pants off anyone with anything other than the quality of her work, but the union doesnt like it because it makes everyone else there feel bad and look bad. THat is pathetic, and not a system where the employees are sure to be the best. Most of the best ones leave because they can make so much more busting their ass for private industry. Unfornatatley for her, Gov controls what she loves to do.

(I cant wait for the “I got promoted out of the Union” party. Gonna be a knockout!)

[hipmatt]

Agreed .. i also know of some tax payer funded careers that are a joke.

[hipmatt]

Agreed .. i also know of some tax payer funded careers that are a joke.

[hipmatt]

Agreed .. i also know of some tax payer funded careers that are a joke.

[hipmatt]

Agreed .. i also know of some tax payer funded careers that are a joke.

[hipmatt]

Agreed .. i also know of some tax payer funded careers that are a joke.

[kewp]

I’ve spent my career about 50/50 public/private sector.

In terms of productivity; I’d say its a complete wash. There are workaholics and slackers everywhere.

I will say that there definitely are many more douchebags working in the private sector.

This thread has done nothing to change that opinion.

[kewp]

I’ve spent my career about 50/50 public/private sector.

In terms of productivity; I’d say its a complete wash. There are workaholics and slackers everywhere.

I will say that there definitely are many more douchebags working in the private sector.

This thread has done nothing to change that opinion.

[kewp]

I’ve spent my career about 50/50 public/private sector.

In terms of productivity; I’d say its a complete wash. There are workaholics and slackers everywhere.

I will say that there definitely are many more douchebags working in the private sector.

This thread has done nothing to change that opinion.

[kewp]

I’ve spent my career about 50/50 public/private sector.

In terms of productivity; I’d say its a complete wash. There are workaholics and slackers everywhere.

I will say that there definitely are many more douchebags working in the private sector.

This thread has done nothing to change that opinion.

[kewp]

I’ve spent my career about 50/50 public/private sector.

In terms of productivity; I’d say its a complete wash. There are workaholics and slackers everywhere.

I will say that there definitely are many more douchebags working in the private sector.

This thread has done nothing to change that opinion.

[gandalf]

Ditto, kewp. I run a business now, started it from scratch, as entrepreneurial as you can get. Worked my ass off. Past life, I worked and directed a program on the public sector side. Worked my ass off there as well. Moral? Good and bad people everywhere you go.

Generally, I do think it’s harder to let employees go on the public side. I disapprove, and believe public-sector employers ought to have more latitude to fire/replace poor performers. OTH, there are more assholes in the private sector, especially corporate, which tends to self-select a ‘get ahead’ kind of person, often with ‘get ahead at the expense of others’ values.

Oh yeah, and Hooray! for right-wing morons… Keep ranting as that’s exactly what’s helping to elect Obama and Dems. Republicans are pretty much pond-scum at this point. More they spew, easier it is for rest of us to see the way forward.

Back to center with Obama / Biden in ’08. (Go to HELL GOP.)

[gandalf]

Ditto, kewp. I run a business now, started it from scratch, as entrepreneurial as you can get. Worked my ass off. Past life, I worked and directed a program on the public sector side. Worked my ass off there as well. Moral? Good and bad people everywhere you go.

Generally, I do think it’s harder to let employees go on the public side. I disapprove, and believe public-sector employers ought to have more latitude to fire/replace poor performers. OTH, there are more assholes in the private sector, especially corporate, which tends to self-select a ‘get ahead’ kind of person, often with ‘get ahead at the expense of others’ values.

Oh yeah, and Hooray! for right-wing morons… Keep ranting as that’s exactly what’s helping to elect Obama and Dems. Republicans are pretty much pond-scum at this point. More they spew, easier it is for rest of us to see the way forward.

Back to center with Obama / Biden in ’08. (Go to HELL GOP.)

[gandalf]

Ditto, kewp. I run a business now, started it from scratch, as entrepreneurial as you can get. Worked my ass off. Past life, I worked and directed a program on the public sector side. Worked my ass off there as well. Moral? Good and bad people everywhere you go.

Generally, I do think it’s harder to let employees go on the public side. I disapprove, and believe public-sector employers ought to have more latitude to fire/replace poor performers. OTH, there are more assholes in the private sector, especially corporate, which tends to self-select a ‘get ahead’ kind of person, often with ‘get ahead at the expense of others’ values.

Oh yeah, and Hooray! for right-wing morons… Keep ranting as that’s exactly what’s helping to elect Obama and Dems. Republicans are pretty much pond-scum at this point. More they spew, easier it is for rest of us to see the way forward.

Back to center with Obama / Biden in ’08. (Go to HELL GOP.)

[gandalf]

Ditto, kewp. I run a business now, started it from scratch, as entrepreneurial as you can get. Worked my ass off. Past life, I worked and directed a program on the public sector side. Worked my ass off there as well. Moral? Good and bad people everywhere you go.

Generally, I do think it’s harder to let employees go on the public side. I disapprove, and believe public-sector employers ought to have more latitude to fire/replace poor performers. OTH, there are more assholes in the private sector, especially corporate, which tends to self-select a ‘get ahead’ kind of person, often with ‘get ahead at the expense of others’ values.

Oh yeah, and Hooray! for right-wing morons… Keep ranting as that’s exactly what’s helping to elect Obama and Dems. Republicans are pretty much pond-scum at this point. More they spew, easier it is for rest of us to see the way forward.

Back to center with Obama / Biden in ’08. (Go to HELL GOP.)

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