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June 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM #421715June 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM #421015
Rt.66
Participant[quote]Submitted by AN on June 27, 2009 – 8:45am.
Rt.66, please tell me, what’s more American, Chevy made in Mexico or Honda made in America?
[/quote]Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
June 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM #421245Participant[quote]Submitted by AN on June 27, 2009 – 8:45am.
Rt.66, please tell me, what’s more American, Chevy made in Mexico or Honda made in America?
[/quote]Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
June 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM #421516Participant[quote]Submitted by AN on June 27, 2009 – 8:45am.
Rt.66, please tell me, what’s more American, Chevy made in Mexico or Honda made in America?
[/quote]Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
June 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM #421584Participant[quote]Submitted by AN on June 27, 2009 – 8:45am.
Rt.66, please tell me, what’s more American, Chevy made in Mexico or Honda made in America?
[/quote]Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
June 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM #421745Participant[quote]Submitted by AN on June 27, 2009 – 8:45am.
Rt.66, please tell me, what’s more American, Chevy made in Mexico or Honda made in America?
[/quote]Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
June 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM #421040an
Participant[quote=Rt.66]
Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
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You seems to boil things down to a vs b, so I’m just doing the same. Please tell me, what’s the difference between Malabu made in US vs Accord made in US? Are the US worker who made the Accord somehow is inferior and not worth your support?BTW, Ford seems to do very well right now, Linky. Why can ford survive and thrive in this global marketplace?
June 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM #421270Participant[quote=Rt.66]
Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
[/quote]
You seems to boil things down to a vs b, so I’m just doing the same. Please tell me, what’s the difference between Malabu made in US vs Accord made in US? Are the US worker who made the Accord somehow is inferior and not worth your support?BTW, Ford seems to do very well right now, Linky. Why can ford survive and thrive in this global marketplace?
June 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM #421541Participant[quote=Rt.66]
Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
[/quote]
You seems to boil things down to a vs b, so I’m just doing the same. Please tell me, what’s the difference between Malabu made in US vs Accord made in US? Are the US worker who made the Accord somehow is inferior and not worth your support?BTW, Ford seems to do very well right now, Linky. Why can ford survive and thrive in this global marketplace?
June 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM #421609Participant[quote=Rt.66]
Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
[/quote]
You seems to boil things down to a vs b, so I’m just doing the same. Please tell me, what’s the difference between Malabu made in US vs Accord made in US? Are the US worker who made the Accord somehow is inferior and not worth your support?BTW, Ford seems to do very well right now, Linky. Why can ford survive and thrive in this global marketplace?
June 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM #421770Participant[quote=Rt.66]
Why not buy a Chevy made by an American company in America such as…
a Chevy MalibuOr any of the many Fords that meet that criteria?
Why do you feel the need to boil the choices down to your example?
We have choices. Don’t make excuses, a tiny bit of research could have lead you to the best purchase for American workers and America’s deficit.
Honda and Toyota and Hyundai insourcing is not done from a charitable standpoint. On the surface, yes it appears your Honda built in Ohio is a good thing (surely better than 100% foriegn) but their are deeper concerns:
The Hidden Costs of Insourcing: Higher Trade Deficits and Job Losses for U.S. Workers
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib236/No need to debate your querry, because neither choice is the best choice and there is no need to resort to just those choices.
[/quote]
You seems to boil things down to a vs b, so I’m just doing the same. Please tell me, what’s the difference between Malabu made in US vs Accord made in US? Are the US worker who made the Accord somehow is inferior and not worth your support?BTW, Ford seems to do very well right now, Linky. Why can ford survive and thrive in this global marketplace?
June 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM #421199ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-June 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM #421429ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-June 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM #421701ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-June 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM #421769ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
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