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June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #563897June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #562911briansd1Guest
[quote=IForget]Does the ban extend to creepy Internet stalkers who continuously bring up your Internet handle in threads which you have nothing to do with? That’s pretty antagonistic, no?[/quote]
Yes, does it extend to people who start a partisan post but can’t countenance a response or rebuttal?
June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #563009briansd1Guest[quote=IForget]Does the ban extend to creepy Internet stalkers who continuously bring up your Internet handle in threads which you have nothing to do with? That’s pretty antagonistic, no?[/quote]
Yes, does it extend to people who start a partisan post but can’t countenance a response or rebuttal?
June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #563515briansd1Guest[quote=IForget]Does the ban extend to creepy Internet stalkers who continuously bring up your Internet handle in threads which you have nothing to do with? That’s pretty antagonistic, no?[/quote]
Yes, does it extend to people who start a partisan post but can’t countenance a response or rebuttal?
June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #563622briansd1Guest[quote=IForget]Does the ban extend to creepy Internet stalkers who continuously bring up your Internet handle in threads which you have nothing to do with? That’s pretty antagonistic, no?[/quote]
Yes, does it extend to people who start a partisan post but can’t countenance a response or rebuttal?
June 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM #563907briansd1Guest[quote=IForget]Does the ban extend to creepy Internet stalkers who continuously bring up your Internet handle in threads which you have nothing to do with? That’s pretty antagonistic, no?[/quote]
Yes, does it extend to people who start a partisan post but can’t countenance a response or rebuttal?
June 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM #562926Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=jpinpb]
Speaking for myself, brian has a point. I prefer not to engage in political arguments, even though I don’t agree w/some posts and would oppose what’s said, I would not post anything. brian has taken on to be the voice of some who do not respond.[/quote]
Jp: Except that Brian isn’t that voice. If Brian’s accusation is that right-wing partisanship provoked his various sorties, in truth there are several excellent liberal and center-left posters like Gandalf, SK in CV, and afx114, who have proven more than capable in responding and who do so in thoughtful and meaningful fashion.
What’s proven corrosive is exactly what you pointed out: The ad hominem, the bullying, and the pointless arguments (i.e. those without any factual basis and employed for no reason other than provocation). Framing everything as “Right is wrong and Left is right” is not only nonsensical, but it detracts from this board as a place for intelligent posters. Yeah, the political threads might be overdone, but there have been some excellent discussions between liberals and conservatives and I’ve learned quite a bit from posters like Arraya, SK and Gandalf, and I’ve also gotten a new perspective on quite a few issues. I personally find that invaluable.
June 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM #563024Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=jpinpb]
Speaking for myself, brian has a point. I prefer not to engage in political arguments, even though I don’t agree w/some posts and would oppose what’s said, I would not post anything. brian has taken on to be the voice of some who do not respond.[/quote]
Jp: Except that Brian isn’t that voice. If Brian’s accusation is that right-wing partisanship provoked his various sorties, in truth there are several excellent liberal and center-left posters like Gandalf, SK in CV, and afx114, who have proven more than capable in responding and who do so in thoughtful and meaningful fashion.
What’s proven corrosive is exactly what you pointed out: The ad hominem, the bullying, and the pointless arguments (i.e. those without any factual basis and employed for no reason other than provocation). Framing everything as “Right is wrong and Left is right” is not only nonsensical, but it detracts from this board as a place for intelligent posters. Yeah, the political threads might be overdone, but there have been some excellent discussions between liberals and conservatives and I’ve learned quite a bit from posters like Arraya, SK and Gandalf, and I’ve also gotten a new perspective on quite a few issues. I personally find that invaluable.
June 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM #563530Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=jpinpb]
Speaking for myself, brian has a point. I prefer not to engage in political arguments, even though I don’t agree w/some posts and would oppose what’s said, I would not post anything. brian has taken on to be the voice of some who do not respond.[/quote]
Jp: Except that Brian isn’t that voice. If Brian’s accusation is that right-wing partisanship provoked his various sorties, in truth there are several excellent liberal and center-left posters like Gandalf, SK in CV, and afx114, who have proven more than capable in responding and who do so in thoughtful and meaningful fashion.
What’s proven corrosive is exactly what you pointed out: The ad hominem, the bullying, and the pointless arguments (i.e. those without any factual basis and employed for no reason other than provocation). Framing everything as “Right is wrong and Left is right” is not only nonsensical, but it detracts from this board as a place for intelligent posters. Yeah, the political threads might be overdone, but there have been some excellent discussions between liberals and conservatives and I’ve learned quite a bit from posters like Arraya, SK and Gandalf, and I’ve also gotten a new perspective on quite a few issues. I personally find that invaluable.
June 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM #563636Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=jpinpb]
Speaking for myself, brian has a point. I prefer not to engage in political arguments, even though I don’t agree w/some posts and would oppose what’s said, I would not post anything. brian has taken on to be the voice of some who do not respond.[/quote]
Jp: Except that Brian isn’t that voice. If Brian’s accusation is that right-wing partisanship provoked his various sorties, in truth there are several excellent liberal and center-left posters like Gandalf, SK in CV, and afx114, who have proven more than capable in responding and who do so in thoughtful and meaningful fashion.
What’s proven corrosive is exactly what you pointed out: The ad hominem, the bullying, and the pointless arguments (i.e. those without any factual basis and employed for no reason other than provocation). Framing everything as “Right is wrong and Left is right” is not only nonsensical, but it detracts from this board as a place for intelligent posters. Yeah, the political threads might be overdone, but there have been some excellent discussions between liberals and conservatives and I’ve learned quite a bit from posters like Arraya, SK and Gandalf, and I’ve also gotten a new perspective on quite a few issues. I personally find that invaluable.
June 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM #563922Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=jpinpb]
Speaking for myself, brian has a point. I prefer not to engage in political arguments, even though I don’t agree w/some posts and would oppose what’s said, I would not post anything. brian has taken on to be the voice of some who do not respond.[/quote]
Jp: Except that Brian isn’t that voice. If Brian’s accusation is that right-wing partisanship provoked his various sorties, in truth there are several excellent liberal and center-left posters like Gandalf, SK in CV, and afx114, who have proven more than capable in responding and who do so in thoughtful and meaningful fashion.
What’s proven corrosive is exactly what you pointed out: The ad hominem, the bullying, and the pointless arguments (i.e. those without any factual basis and employed for no reason other than provocation). Framing everything as “Right is wrong and Left is right” is not only nonsensical, but it detracts from this board as a place for intelligent posters. Yeah, the political threads might be overdone, but there have been some excellent discussions between liberals and conservatives and I’ve learned quite a bit from posters like Arraya, SK and Gandalf, and I’ve also gotten a new perspective on quite a few issues. I personally find that invaluable.
June 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM #562921sdduuuudeParticipantSorry brian – I caught that and edited it while you were posting.
It originally said “in favor of brian” then I messed with it and it incorrectly said “in favor of banning brian” – as you quoted it. It reads the way I meant now.
Just note that 49/25 against banning is quite atrocious. Nobody would fare that poorly. The question wasn’t “do you dislike brian” or “do you agree with brian?” or “does brian annoy you a little bit?” it was “should he be banned?” 1/3 think yes.
June 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM #563019sdduuuudeParticipantSorry brian – I caught that and edited it while you were posting.
It originally said “in favor of brian” then I messed with it and it incorrectly said “in favor of banning brian” – as you quoted it. It reads the way I meant now.
Just note that 49/25 against banning is quite atrocious. Nobody would fare that poorly. The question wasn’t “do you dislike brian” or “do you agree with brian?” or “does brian annoy you a little bit?” it was “should he be banned?” 1/3 think yes.
June 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM #563525sdduuuudeParticipantSorry brian – I caught that and edited it while you were posting.
It originally said “in favor of brian” then I messed with it and it incorrectly said “in favor of banning brian” – as you quoted it. It reads the way I meant now.
Just note that 49/25 against banning is quite atrocious. Nobody would fare that poorly. The question wasn’t “do you dislike brian” or “do you agree with brian?” or “does brian annoy you a little bit?” it was “should he be banned?” 1/3 think yes.
June 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM #563631sdduuuudeParticipantSorry brian – I caught that and edited it while you were posting.
It originally said “in favor of brian” then I messed with it and it incorrectly said “in favor of banning brian” – as you quoted it. It reads the way I meant now.
Just note that 49/25 against banning is quite atrocious. Nobody would fare that poorly. The question wasn’t “do you dislike brian” or “do you agree with brian?” or “does brian annoy you a little bit?” it was “should he be banned?” 1/3 think yes.
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