The writing is on the wall!

[socrattt]

Concho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.

I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.

We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.

Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.

Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis

[blahblahblah]

socratt, you’re right on all points. I was only trying to point out that collapse is inevitable and has occurred many times throughout human history. The Soviet Union collapsed recently, yet most of the people survived! Yes some died, some froze, some were murdered and some starved. The same was true when the Incan empire collapsed, when the Mayan and Roman empires collapsed (those collapses took hundreds of years BTW!) These things will happen here also. Worrying about it isn’t going to help but a little planning might. Having a gun isn’t a bad idea, some useful items like food and water, a couple of gold coins or diamonds to give the nasty that’s pointing a gun at you to make him go away, that’s a good idea as well. But nothing will beat knowing your family, friends, and neighbors and being able to count on them when times get tough.

Honestly I think that the worst that will happen to the majority of Americans is that they won’t be able to buy new Jet Skis every year. We’re going to have to live like normal people again. That means grandpa and grandma and uncle johnny and his family are all moving into the house and we’re gonna plant tomatoes in the backyard and make our own ice cream for fun on Saturday night.

[blahblahblah]

socratt, you’re right on all points. I was only trying to point out that collapse is inevitable and has occurred many times throughout human history. The Soviet Union collapsed recently, yet most of the people survived! Yes some died, some froze, some were murdered and some starved. The same was true when the Incan empire collapsed, when the Mayan and Roman empires collapsed (those collapses took hundreds of years BTW!) These things will happen here also. Worrying about it isn’t going to help but a little planning might. Having a gun isn’t a bad idea, some useful items like food and water, a couple of gold coins or diamonds to give the nasty that’s pointing a gun at you to make him go away, that’s a good idea as well. But nothing will beat knowing your family, friends, and neighbors and being able to count on them when times get tough.

Honestly I think that the worst that will happen to the majority of Americans is that they won’t be able to buy new Jet Skis every year. We’re going to have to live like normal people again. That means grandpa and grandma and uncle johnny and his family are all moving into the house and we’re gonna plant tomatoes in the backyard and make our own ice cream for fun on Saturday night.

[blahblahblah]

socratt, you’re right on all points. I was only trying to point out that collapse is inevitable and has occurred many times throughout human history. The Soviet Union collapsed recently, yet most of the people survived! Yes some died, some froze, some were murdered and some starved. The same was true when the Incan empire collapsed, when the Mayan and Roman empires collapsed (those collapses took hundreds of years BTW!) These things will happen here also. Worrying about it isn’t going to help but a little planning might. Having a gun isn’t a bad idea, some useful items like food and water, a couple of gold coins or diamonds to give the nasty that’s pointing a gun at you to make him go away, that’s a good idea as well. But nothing will beat knowing your family, friends, and neighbors and being able to count on them when times get tough.

Honestly I think that the worst that will happen to the majority of Americans is that they won’t be able to buy new Jet Skis every year. We’re going to have to live like normal people again. That means grandpa and grandma and uncle johnny and his family are all moving into the house and we’re gonna plant tomatoes in the backyard and make our own ice cream for fun on Saturday night.

[blahblahblah]

socratt, you’re right on all points. I was only trying to point out that collapse is inevitable and has occurred many times throughout human history. The Soviet Union collapsed recently, yet most of the people survived! Yes some died, some froze, some were murdered and some starved. The same was true when the Incan empire collapsed, when the Mayan and Roman empires collapsed (those collapses took hundreds of years BTW!) These things will happen here also. Worrying about it isn’t going to help but a little planning might. Having a gun isn’t a bad idea, some useful items like food and water, a couple of gold coins or diamonds to give the nasty that’s pointing a gun at you to make him go away, that’s a good idea as well. But nothing will beat knowing your family, friends, and neighbors and being able to count on them when times get tough.

Honestly I think that the worst that will happen to the majority of Americans is that they won’t be able to buy new Jet Skis every year. We’re going to have to live like normal people again. That means grandpa and grandma and uncle johnny and his family are all moving into the house and we’re gonna plant tomatoes in the backyard and make our own ice cream for fun on Saturday night.

[blahblahblah]

socratt, you’re right on all points. I was only trying to point out that collapse is inevitable and has occurred many times throughout human history. The Soviet Union collapsed recently, yet most of the people survived! Yes some died, some froze, some were murdered and some starved. The same was true when the Incan empire collapsed, when the Mayan and Roman empires collapsed (those collapses took hundreds of years BTW!) These things will happen here also. Worrying about it isn’t going to help but a little planning might. Having a gun isn’t a bad idea, some useful items like food and water, a couple of gold coins or diamonds to give the nasty that’s pointing a gun at you to make him go away, that’s a good idea as well. But nothing will beat knowing your family, friends, and neighbors and being able to count on them when times get tough.

Honestly I think that the worst that will happen to the majority of Americans is that they won’t be able to buy new Jet Skis every year. We’re going to have to live like normal people again. That means grandpa and grandma and uncle johnny and his family are all moving into the house and we’re gonna plant tomatoes in the backyard and make our own ice cream for fun on Saturday night.

[partypup]

[quote=Veritas]Pup,

I hope you are wrong, but I have been trained to read trends and the things you are talking about are not just being discussed in fringe areas, they are starting to hit the radar, all but the retard network news has mentioned it. They are blissfully only aware of Obama and what he had for breakfast. What will precipitate the break down? The collapse of Mexico or some kind of terrorist attack or another Katrina? I think there will have to be a trigger and then it will start to crumble just like the banks. I hope you have back up to help you because you are not an army of one. You will need other like minded folks to band together with a well thought out plan and a defensible space. What is going to happen with the Army and the National Guard? What will their role be in this nightmare scenario? This feels like Rome to me.[/quote]

V, you are quite right about maintaining an army of more than one — which is PRECISELY why I have been attempting to educate those around me. We will absolutely and without questions need each other. And that means building a network of like-minded people who are also building up their resources and supplies so that we may share/barter and protect one another. I live in West LA, but I have a group of 8-10 friends, and we are all well-armed. If the need arose, I would most certainly have back-up 😉

And you are quite right: the discussion we are now having (which Aaraya, Allan and a few of us have been putting out there for almost a year now) is also seeping into the highest levels of the food chain. Anyone with a working brain (i.e. anyone who isn’t been brainwashed by the pundits on mainstream news who have made EVERY effort to lull the public into believing that Obama can save them) is making preparations for a very dire outcome:

“The New Paranoia: Hedge-Funders Are Bullish on Gold, Guns, and Inflatable Lifeboats”

http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53372/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Keep in mind, hedge fund guys aren’t smart or ahead-of-the-curve. They are like rats. They pick up on trends once they have begun. So while Breeze and the others are buying Sasha and Malia Obama action figures and posting Barack’s meal plan on their dorm room wall so they can eat a breakfast of champions like Der Fuhrer, the more savvy among us will be taking the steps we need to actually survive this catastrophe — because I do believe that it will be survivable.

[partypup]

[quote=Veritas]Pup,

I hope you are wrong, but I have been trained to read trends and the things you are talking about are not just being discussed in fringe areas, they are starting to hit the radar, all but the retard network news has mentioned it. They are blissfully only aware of Obama and what he had for breakfast. What will precipitate the break down? The collapse of Mexico or some kind of terrorist attack or another Katrina? I think there will have to be a trigger and then it will start to crumble just like the banks. I hope you have back up to help you because you are not an army of one. You will need other like minded folks to band together with a well thought out plan and a defensible space. What is going to happen with the Army and the National Guard? What will their role be in this nightmare scenario? This feels like Rome to me.[/quote]

V, you are quite right about maintaining an army of more than one — which is PRECISELY why I have been attempting to educate those around me. We will absolutely and without questions need each other. And that means building a network of like-minded people who are also building up their resources and supplies so that we may share/barter and protect one another. I live in West LA, but I have a group of 8-10 friends, and we are all well-armed. If the need arose, I would most certainly have back-up 😉

And you are quite right: the discussion we are now having (which Aaraya, Allan and a few of us have been putting out there for almost a year now) is also seeping into the highest levels of the food chain. Anyone with a working brain (i.e. anyone who isn’t been brainwashed by the pundits on mainstream news who have made EVERY effort to lull the public into believing that Obama can save them) is making preparations for a very dire outcome:

“The New Paranoia: Hedge-Funders Are Bullish on Gold, Guns, and Inflatable Lifeboats”

http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53372/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Keep in mind, hedge fund guys aren’t smart or ahead-of-the-curve. They are like rats. They pick up on trends once they have begun. So while Breeze and the others are buying Sasha and Malia Obama action figures and posting Barack’s meal plan on their dorm room wall so they can eat a breakfast of champions like Der Fuhrer, the more savvy among us will be taking the steps we need to actually survive this catastrophe — because I do believe that it will be survivable.

[partypup]

[quote=Veritas]Pup,

I hope you are wrong, but I have been trained to read trends and the things you are talking about are not just being discussed in fringe areas, they are starting to hit the radar, all but the retard network news has mentioned it. They are blissfully only aware of Obama and what he had for breakfast. What will precipitate the break down? The collapse of Mexico or some kind of terrorist attack or another Katrina? I think there will have to be a trigger and then it will start to crumble just like the banks. I hope you have back up to help you because you are not an army of one. You will need other like minded folks to band together with a well thought out plan and a defensible space. What is going to happen with the Army and the National Guard? What will their role be in this nightmare scenario? This feels like Rome to me.[/quote]

V, you are quite right about maintaining an army of more than one — which is PRECISELY why I have been attempting to educate those around me. We will absolutely and without questions need each other. And that means building a network of like-minded people who are also building up their resources and supplies so that we may share/barter and protect one another. I live in West LA, but I have a group of 8-10 friends, and we are all well-armed. If the need arose, I would most certainly have back-up 😉

And you are quite right: the discussion we are now having (which Aaraya, Allan and a few of us have been putting out there for almost a year now) is also seeping into the highest levels of the food chain. Anyone with a working brain (i.e. anyone who isn’t been brainwashed by the pundits on mainstream news who have made EVERY effort to lull the public into believing that Obama can save them) is making preparations for a very dire outcome:

“The New Paranoia: Hedge-Funders Are Bullish on Gold, Guns, and Inflatable Lifeboats”

http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53372/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Keep in mind, hedge fund guys aren’t smart or ahead-of-the-curve. They are like rats. They pick up on trends once they have begun. So while Breeze and the others are buying Sasha and Malia Obama action figures and posting Barack’s meal plan on their dorm room wall so they can eat a breakfast of champions like Der Fuhrer, the more savvy among us will be taking the steps we need to actually survive this catastrophe — because I do believe that it will be survivable.

[partypup]

[quote=Veritas]Pup,

I hope you are wrong, but I have been trained to read trends and the things you are talking about are not just being discussed in fringe areas, they are starting to hit the radar, all but the retard network news has mentioned it. They are blissfully only aware of Obama and what he had for breakfast. What will precipitate the break down? The collapse of Mexico or some kind of terrorist attack or another Katrina? I think there will have to be a trigger and then it will start to crumble just like the banks. I hope you have back up to help you because you are not an army of one. You will need other like minded folks to band together with a well thought out plan and a defensible space. What is going to happen with the Army and the National Guard? What will their role be in this nightmare scenario? This feels like Rome to me.[/quote]

V, you are quite right about maintaining an army of more than one — which is PRECISELY why I have been attempting to educate those around me. We will absolutely and without questions need each other. And that means building a network of like-minded people who are also building up their resources and supplies so that we may share/barter and protect one another. I live in West LA, but I have a group of 8-10 friends, and we are all well-armed. If the need arose, I would most certainly have back-up 😉

And you are quite right: the discussion we are now having (which Aaraya, Allan and a few of us have been putting out there for almost a year now) is also seeping into the highest levels of the food chain. Anyone with a working brain (i.e. anyone who isn’t been brainwashed by the pundits on mainstream news who have made EVERY effort to lull the public into believing that Obama can save them) is making preparations for a very dire outcome:

“The New Paranoia: Hedge-Funders Are Bullish on Gold, Guns, and Inflatable Lifeboats”

http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53372/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Keep in mind, hedge fund guys aren’t smart or ahead-of-the-curve. They are like rats. They pick up on trends once they have begun. So while Breeze and the others are buying Sasha and Malia Obama action figures and posting Barack’s meal plan on their dorm room wall so they can eat a breakfast of champions like Der Fuhrer, the more savvy among us will be taking the steps we need to actually survive this catastrophe — because I do believe that it will be survivable.

[partypup]

[quote=Veritas]Pup,

I hope you are wrong, but I have been trained to read trends and the things you are talking about are not just being discussed in fringe areas, they are starting to hit the radar, all but the retard network news has mentioned it. They are blissfully only aware of Obama and what he had for breakfast. What will precipitate the break down? The collapse of Mexico or some kind of terrorist attack or another Katrina? I think there will have to be a trigger and then it will start to crumble just like the banks. I hope you have back up to help you because you are not an army of one. You will need other like minded folks to band together with a well thought out plan and a defensible space. What is going to happen with the Army and the National Guard? What will their role be in this nightmare scenario? This feels like Rome to me.[/quote]

V, you are quite right about maintaining an army of more than one — which is PRECISELY why I have been attempting to educate those around me. We will absolutely and without questions need each other. And that means building a network of like-minded people who are also building up their resources and supplies so that we may share/barter and protect one another. I live in West LA, but I have a group of 8-10 friends, and we are all well-armed. If the need arose, I would most certainly have back-up 😉

And you are quite right: the discussion we are now having (which Aaraya, Allan and a few of us have been putting out there for almost a year now) is also seeping into the highest levels of the food chain. Anyone with a working brain (i.e. anyone who isn’t been brainwashed by the pundits on mainstream news who have made EVERY effort to lull the public into believing that Obama can save them) is making preparations for a very dire outcome:

“The New Paranoia: Hedge-Funders Are Bullish on Gold, Guns, and Inflatable Lifeboats”

http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53372/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h10

Keep in mind, hedge fund guys aren’t smart or ahead-of-the-curve. They are like rats. They pick up on trends once they have begun. So while Breeze and the others are buying Sasha and Malia Obama action figures and posting Barack’s meal plan on their dorm room wall so they can eat a breakfast of champions like Der Fuhrer, the more savvy among us will be taking the steps we need to actually survive this catastrophe — because I do believe that it will be survivable.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

CONCHO: I remember visiting family in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan) during summer and winter vacations. I grew up in Northern California, and I thought these folks were backward hicks compared to how we did things up in the Bay Area.

My grandma still had her Victory Garden from WWII and raised ducks and geese (along with other barnyard critters). She DID make her own ice cream (and my grandpa made beer!). Life there had a slower pace and people had a different value system (they didn’t worship money or things, but family, friends and God).

I think a return to that style of life is actually a good thing. Especially the making your own beer part.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

CONCHO: I remember visiting family in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan) during summer and winter vacations. I grew up in Northern California, and I thought these folks were backward hicks compared to how we did things up in the Bay Area.

My grandma still had her Victory Garden from WWII and raised ducks and geese (along with other barnyard critters). She DID make her own ice cream (and my grandpa made beer!). Life there had a slower pace and people had a different value system (they didn’t worship money or things, but family, friends and God).

I think a return to that style of life is actually a good thing. Especially the making your own beer part.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

CONCHO: I remember visiting family in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan) during summer and winter vacations. I grew up in Northern California, and I thought these folks were backward hicks compared to how we did things up in the Bay Area.

My grandma still had her Victory Garden from WWII and raised ducks and geese (along with other barnyard critters). She DID make her own ice cream (and my grandpa made beer!). Life there had a slower pace and people had a different value system (they didn’t worship money or things, but family, friends and God).

I think a return to that style of life is actually a good thing. Especially the making your own beer part.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

CONCHO: I remember visiting family in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan) during summer and winter vacations. I grew up in Northern California, and I thought these folks were backward hicks compared to how we did things up in the Bay Area.

My grandma still had her Victory Garden from WWII and raised ducks and geese (along with other barnyard critters). She DID make her own ice cream (and my grandpa made beer!). Life there had a slower pace and people had a different value system (they didn’t worship money or things, but family, friends and God).

I think a return to that style of life is actually a good thing. Especially the making your own beer part.

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