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August 9, 2011 at 2:10 PM #717971August 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM #716783
jstoesz
Participant[quote=DataAgent][quote=sreeb]
Cutting 1% makes you an extremest?[/quote]The techniques were extreme.[/quote]
bahahaha…
Its politics not patty cake.
August 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM #716876Participant[quote=DataAgent][quote=sreeb]
Cutting 1% makes you an extremest?[/quote]The techniques were extreme.[/quote]
bahahaha…
Its politics not patty cake.
August 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM #717474Participant[quote=DataAgent][quote=sreeb]
Cutting 1% makes you an extremest?[/quote]The techniques were extreme.[/quote]
bahahaha…
Its politics not patty cake.
August 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM #717625Participant[quote=DataAgent][quote=sreeb]
Cutting 1% makes you an extremest?[/quote]The techniques were extreme.[/quote]
bahahaha…
Its politics not patty cake.
August 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM #717981Participant[quote=DataAgent][quote=sreeb]
Cutting 1% makes you an extremest?[/quote]The techniques were extreme.[/quote]
bahahaha…
Its politics not patty cake.
August 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM #716789briansd1
Guest[quote=jstoesz]Having spent a bit of time in both the UK and France. I am surprised by London…not at all by France (‘s riots a few years ago). The severe bifurcation of society in France is far more fertile a ground for riots, at least from what I saw of their societies.[/quote]
Considering the Tea Party’s obsession with the Founding Fathers, the misunderstanding of France in America is astounding.
The Founding Fathers very much Francophiles. Unfortunately, today everything associated with France is dismissed as intellectual elitism.
My family has been Francophiles for generations. We speak French, we have lived there and continue to follow the news. My parents talked about Europe at the dinner table for as long as I can remember. Just saying where my perspective comes from.
Some important differences between France and England.
The UK is very international; it attracts former diplomats, businessmen, millionaires and billionaires from the around the globe. London is very finance, credit, and wealth-management oriented — not exactly jobs for the average person. So the GDP numbers don’t tell the whole story. London is also very expensive and people live in small uncomfortable quarters.
France has a stronger industrial policy of supporting corporate giants in all kinds of industries. That industrial policy provides good jobs for people in different regions of France.
There is a lot more White poverty in the UK than in France. I think that the combination of white poverty and ethnic minority poverty is potentially more incendiary. During the boom years, thanks to easy credit, minorities started businesses and seemed to thriving in the UK, but minorities have been hit hard by the recession just like Hispanics have been hit in America.
Britain is strewn with industrial rust-belt cities. In the UK, poor White and poor minority discontent combined with racism, jealousy and xenophobia, can translate to widespread social unrest.
True that France has ethnic problems and there have been ethnic riots in the banlieus.
But riots are not the same as the frequent demonstrations and strikes that we see as a result of French critical thinking (thinking too much and working too little) and their habit of voicing discontent. Compared that to the Anglo-Saxon cultural habit of keeping anger inside — anger that can blow up at any moment (think soccer hooliganism combined with economic discontent).
I believe that, on the whole, the average Frenchman lives better that the typical Briton. The climate in France is better, the French eat better, live better and have nicer summer vacations.
Of course, Britain has royalty and an international upper class.
August 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM #716881Guest[quote=jstoesz]Having spent a bit of time in both the UK and France. I am surprised by London…not at all by France (‘s riots a few years ago). The severe bifurcation of society in France is far more fertile a ground for riots, at least from what I saw of their societies.[/quote]
Considering the Tea Party’s obsession with the Founding Fathers, the misunderstanding of France in America is astounding.
The Founding Fathers very much Francophiles. Unfortunately, today everything associated with France is dismissed as intellectual elitism.
My family has been Francophiles for generations. We speak French, we have lived there and continue to follow the news. My parents talked about Europe at the dinner table for as long as I can remember. Just saying where my perspective comes from.
Some important differences between France and England.
The UK is very international; it attracts former diplomats, businessmen, millionaires and billionaires from the around the globe. London is very finance, credit, and wealth-management oriented — not exactly jobs for the average person. So the GDP numbers don’t tell the whole story. London is also very expensive and people live in small uncomfortable quarters.
France has a stronger industrial policy of supporting corporate giants in all kinds of industries. That industrial policy provides good jobs for people in different regions of France.
There is a lot more White poverty in the UK than in France. I think that the combination of white poverty and ethnic minority poverty is potentially more incendiary. During the boom years, thanks to easy credit, minorities started businesses and seemed to thriving in the UK, but minorities have been hit hard by the recession just like Hispanics have been hit in America.
Britain is strewn with industrial rust-belt cities. In the UK, poor White and poor minority discontent combined with racism, jealousy and xenophobia, can translate to widespread social unrest.
True that France has ethnic problems and there have been ethnic riots in the banlieus.
But riots are not the same as the frequent demonstrations and strikes that we see as a result of French critical thinking (thinking too much and working too little) and their habit of voicing discontent. Compared that to the Anglo-Saxon cultural habit of keeping anger inside — anger that can blow up at any moment (think soccer hooliganism combined with economic discontent).
I believe that, on the whole, the average Frenchman lives better that the typical Briton. The climate in France is better, the French eat better, live better and have nicer summer vacations.
Of course, Britain has royalty and an international upper class.
August 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM #717479Guest[quote=jstoesz]Having spent a bit of time in both the UK and France. I am surprised by London…not at all by France (‘s riots a few years ago). The severe bifurcation of society in France is far more fertile a ground for riots, at least from what I saw of their societies.[/quote]
Considering the Tea Party’s obsession with the Founding Fathers, the misunderstanding of France in America is astounding.
The Founding Fathers very much Francophiles. Unfortunately, today everything associated with France is dismissed as intellectual elitism.
My family has been Francophiles for generations. We speak French, we have lived there and continue to follow the news. My parents talked about Europe at the dinner table for as long as I can remember. Just saying where my perspective comes from.
Some important differences between France and England.
The UK is very international; it attracts former diplomats, businessmen, millionaires and billionaires from the around the globe. London is very finance, credit, and wealth-management oriented — not exactly jobs for the average person. So the GDP numbers don’t tell the whole story. London is also very expensive and people live in small uncomfortable quarters.
France has a stronger industrial policy of supporting corporate giants in all kinds of industries. That industrial policy provides good jobs for people in different regions of France.
There is a lot more White poverty in the UK than in France. I think that the combination of white poverty and ethnic minority poverty is potentially more incendiary. During the boom years, thanks to easy credit, minorities started businesses and seemed to thriving in the UK, but minorities have been hit hard by the recession just like Hispanics have been hit in America.
Britain is strewn with industrial rust-belt cities. In the UK, poor White and poor minority discontent combined with racism, jealousy and xenophobia, can translate to widespread social unrest.
True that France has ethnic problems and there have been ethnic riots in the banlieus.
But riots are not the same as the frequent demonstrations and strikes that we see as a result of French critical thinking (thinking too much and working too little) and their habit of voicing discontent. Compared that to the Anglo-Saxon cultural habit of keeping anger inside — anger that can blow up at any moment (think soccer hooliganism combined with economic discontent).
I believe that, on the whole, the average Frenchman lives better that the typical Briton. The climate in France is better, the French eat better, live better and have nicer summer vacations.
Of course, Britain has royalty and an international upper class.
August 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM #717630Guest[quote=jstoesz]Having spent a bit of time in both the UK and France. I am surprised by London…not at all by France (‘s riots a few years ago). The severe bifurcation of society in France is far more fertile a ground for riots, at least from what I saw of their societies.[/quote]
Considering the Tea Party’s obsession with the Founding Fathers, the misunderstanding of France in America is astounding.
The Founding Fathers very much Francophiles. Unfortunately, today everything associated with France is dismissed as intellectual elitism.
My family has been Francophiles for generations. We speak French, we have lived there and continue to follow the news. My parents talked about Europe at the dinner table for as long as I can remember. Just saying where my perspective comes from.
Some important differences between France and England.
The UK is very international; it attracts former diplomats, businessmen, millionaires and billionaires from the around the globe. London is very finance, credit, and wealth-management oriented — not exactly jobs for the average person. So the GDP numbers don’t tell the whole story. London is also very expensive and people live in small uncomfortable quarters.
France has a stronger industrial policy of supporting corporate giants in all kinds of industries. That industrial policy provides good jobs for people in different regions of France.
There is a lot more White poverty in the UK than in France. I think that the combination of white poverty and ethnic minority poverty is potentially more incendiary. During the boom years, thanks to easy credit, minorities started businesses and seemed to thriving in the UK, but minorities have been hit hard by the recession just like Hispanics have been hit in America.
Britain is strewn with industrial rust-belt cities. In the UK, poor White and poor minority discontent combined with racism, jealousy and xenophobia, can translate to widespread social unrest.
True that France has ethnic problems and there have been ethnic riots in the banlieus.
But riots are not the same as the frequent demonstrations and strikes that we see as a result of French critical thinking (thinking too much and working too little) and their habit of voicing discontent. Compared that to the Anglo-Saxon cultural habit of keeping anger inside — anger that can blow up at any moment (think soccer hooliganism combined with economic discontent).
I believe that, on the whole, the average Frenchman lives better that the typical Briton. The climate in France is better, the French eat better, live better and have nicer summer vacations.
Of course, Britain has royalty and an international upper class.
August 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM #717986Guest[quote=jstoesz]Having spent a bit of time in both the UK and France. I am surprised by London…not at all by France (‘s riots a few years ago). The severe bifurcation of society in France is far more fertile a ground for riots, at least from what I saw of their societies.[/quote]
Considering the Tea Party’s obsession with the Founding Fathers, the misunderstanding of France in America is astounding.
The Founding Fathers very much Francophiles. Unfortunately, today everything associated with France is dismissed as intellectual elitism.
My family has been Francophiles for generations. We speak French, we have lived there and continue to follow the news. My parents talked about Europe at the dinner table for as long as I can remember. Just saying where my perspective comes from.
Some important differences between France and England.
The UK is very international; it attracts former diplomats, businessmen, millionaires and billionaires from the around the globe. London is very finance, credit, and wealth-management oriented — not exactly jobs for the average person. So the GDP numbers don’t tell the whole story. London is also very expensive and people live in small uncomfortable quarters.
France has a stronger industrial policy of supporting corporate giants in all kinds of industries. That industrial policy provides good jobs for people in different regions of France.
There is a lot more White poverty in the UK than in France. I think that the combination of white poverty and ethnic minority poverty is potentially more incendiary. During the boom years, thanks to easy credit, minorities started businesses and seemed to thriving in the UK, but minorities have been hit hard by the recession just like Hispanics have been hit in America.
Britain is strewn with industrial rust-belt cities. In the UK, poor White and poor minority discontent combined with racism, jealousy and xenophobia, can translate to widespread social unrest.
True that France has ethnic problems and there have been ethnic riots in the banlieus.
But riots are not the same as the frequent demonstrations and strikes that we see as a result of French critical thinking (thinking too much and working too little) and their habit of voicing discontent. Compared that to the Anglo-Saxon cultural habit of keeping anger inside — anger that can blow up at any moment (think soccer hooliganism combined with economic discontent).
I believe that, on the whole, the average Frenchman lives better that the typical Briton. The climate in France is better, the French eat better, live better and have nicer summer vacations.
Of course, Britain has royalty and an international upper class.
August 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM #716794Guest[quote=pri_dk]Seriously, Harvard has “given” us a lot. That one institution has had big influence on our history.
[/quote]Yes, Harvard has given this country a lot.
But we don’t want to be elitist so we have to dumb down a bit. It’s hard to feel the pulse of the county from the ivory tower.
August 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM #716885Guest[quote=pri_dk]Seriously, Harvard has “given” us a lot. That one institution has had big influence on our history.
[/quote]Yes, Harvard has given this country a lot.
But we don’t want to be elitist so we have to dumb down a bit. It’s hard to feel the pulse of the county from the ivory tower.
August 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM #717485Guest[quote=pri_dk]Seriously, Harvard has “given” us a lot. That one institution has had big influence on our history.
[/quote]Yes, Harvard has given this country a lot.
But we don’t want to be elitist so we have to dumb down a bit. It’s hard to feel the pulse of the county from the ivory tower.
August 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM #717635Guest[quote=pri_dk]Seriously, Harvard has “given” us a lot. That one institution has had big influence on our history.
[/quote]Yes, Harvard has given this country a lot.
But we don’t want to be elitist so we have to dumb down a bit. It’s hard to feel the pulse of the county from the ivory tower.
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