The new smart financial move is walking away

[an]

davelj, I think you miss understood my point. I’m not disregarding luck/fate. That’s also a big factor. But luck alone won’t get you anywhere unless you’re willing (choose) to take advantage of it. It’s also not black and white, luck vs no luck, prepared vs unprepared. It’s a big combination both luck/fate and the choice to take advantage of that luck (you can’t win if you don’t play).

[an]

[quote=SD Realtor]The relativity of luck in your life shouldn’t be an enabler for poor decisions.[/quote]
Completely agree. I graduated a few years before the peak of the RE bubble. I was under the same external pressure and circumstances as my peers who end up buying at the peak. We graduated, got a job, saved enough to buy a house. Some chose to buy while others like me who chose to wait. The key word here is “chose”. We all experienced the similar pressure and going through life at a similar pace with similar opportunities.

[an]

[quote=SD Realtor]The relativity of luck in your life shouldn’t be an enabler for poor decisions.[/quote]
Completely agree. I graduated a few years before the peak of the RE bubble. I was under the same external pressure and circumstances as my peers who end up buying at the peak. We graduated, got a job, saved enough to buy a house. Some chose to buy while others like me who chose to wait. The key word here is “chose”. We all experienced the similar pressure and going through life at a similar pace with similar opportunities.

[an]

[quote=SD Realtor]The relativity of luck in your life shouldn’t be an enabler for poor decisions.[/quote]
Completely agree. I graduated a few years before the peak of the RE bubble. I was under the same external pressure and circumstances as my peers who end up buying at the peak. We graduated, got a job, saved enough to buy a house. Some chose to buy while others like me who chose to wait. The key word here is “chose”. We all experienced the similar pressure and going through life at a similar pace with similar opportunities.

[an]

[quote=SD Realtor]The relativity of luck in your life shouldn’t be an enabler for poor decisions.[/quote]
Completely agree. I graduated a few years before the peak of the RE bubble. I was under the same external pressure and circumstances as my peers who end up buying at the peak. We graduated, got a job, saved enough to buy a house. Some chose to buy while others like me who chose to wait. The key word here is “chose”. We all experienced the similar pressure and going through life at a similar pace with similar opportunities.

[an]

[quote=SD Realtor]The relativity of luck in your life shouldn’t be an enabler for poor decisions.[/quote]
Completely agree. I graduated a few years before the peak of the RE bubble. I was under the same external pressure and circumstances as my peers who end up buying at the peak. We graduated, got a job, saved enough to buy a house. Some chose to buy while others like me who chose to wait. The key word here is “chose”. We all experienced the similar pressure and going through life at a similar pace with similar opportunities.

[davelj]

[quote=sdrealtor]Luck is defintely a HUGE part of it but saying all people are the same is a loser attitude and a cop out. All people are not the same. I know there are people smarter than me, better looking then me, more personable than me who are capable of things I am not. With that said, life is what you make out of it. You can’t hit that lucky home run if you never swing. Some people are content to be spectators and some are not. Some people swing and some people pretend they are playing the game but never take the bat off their shoulders. Some people are capable of hitting that home run when they swing and some people are only capable of generating a cool breeze when they swing. It still takes luck but luck only happens when preparation meets opportunity.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with any of this. I don’t think it contradicts anything I stated in my last post (if that’s what you were getting at, that is – this might have been a separate tangent.)

[davelj]

[quote=sdrealtor]Luck is defintely a HUGE part of it but saying all people are the same is a loser attitude and a cop out. All people are not the same. I know there are people smarter than me, better looking then me, more personable than me who are capable of things I am not. With that said, life is what you make out of it. You can’t hit that lucky home run if you never swing. Some people are content to be spectators and some are not. Some people swing and some people pretend they are playing the game but never take the bat off their shoulders. Some people are capable of hitting that home run when they swing and some people are only capable of generating a cool breeze when they swing. It still takes luck but luck only happens when preparation meets opportunity.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with any of this. I don’t think it contradicts anything I stated in my last post (if that’s what you were getting at, that is – this might have been a separate tangent.)

[davelj]

[quote=sdrealtor]Luck is defintely a HUGE part of it but saying all people are the same is a loser attitude and a cop out. All people are not the same. I know there are people smarter than me, better looking then me, more personable than me who are capable of things I am not. With that said, life is what you make out of it. You can’t hit that lucky home run if you never swing. Some people are content to be spectators and some are not. Some people swing and some people pretend they are playing the game but never take the bat off their shoulders. Some people are capable of hitting that home run when they swing and some people are only capable of generating a cool breeze when they swing. It still takes luck but luck only happens when preparation meets opportunity.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with any of this. I don’t think it contradicts anything I stated in my last post (if that’s what you were getting at, that is – this might have been a separate tangent.)

[davelj]

[quote=sdrealtor]Luck is defintely a HUGE part of it but saying all people are the same is a loser attitude and a cop out. All people are not the same. I know there are people smarter than me, better looking then me, more personable than me who are capable of things I am not. With that said, life is what you make out of it. You can’t hit that lucky home run if you never swing. Some people are content to be spectators and some are not. Some people swing and some people pretend they are playing the game but never take the bat off their shoulders. Some people are capable of hitting that home run when they swing and some people are only capable of generating a cool breeze when they swing. It still takes luck but luck only happens when preparation meets opportunity.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with any of this. I don’t think it contradicts anything I stated in my last post (if that’s what you were getting at, that is – this might have been a separate tangent.)

[davelj]

[quote=sdrealtor]Luck is defintely a HUGE part of it but saying all people are the same is a loser attitude and a cop out. All people are not the same. I know there are people smarter than me, better looking then me, more personable than me who are capable of things I am not. With that said, life is what you make out of it. You can’t hit that lucky home run if you never swing. Some people are content to be spectators and some are not. Some people swing and some people pretend they are playing the game but never take the bat off their shoulders. Some people are capable of hitting that home run when they swing and some people are only capable of generating a cool breeze when they swing. It still takes luck but luck only happens when preparation meets opportunity.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with any of this. I don’t think it contradicts anything I stated in my last post (if that’s what you were getting at, that is – this might have been a separate tangent.)

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]
If the guy don’t want to have the kid, then I highly doubt he’ll care if some other guy raises “his” kids. If he didn’t want the kid, then why would he have strong feelings toward his progeny? [/quote]

I agree with you here. That’s why there are plenty of divorces even with children involved.

It’s not what the guy will do.

When the wife does something, it is because she believes it (explicitly or subliminally). It’s not actually what might be true.

I’m sure that having kids is a deterrent to many men from divorcing. I strongly believe that without kids, the divorce rate would be greater than 50%.

Without houses owned in common, the divorce rate would also be even greater. Women like to joke about sending their husbands packing to an apartment in the hood as deterrent.

I think that scaredycat is right in that relationships are about power dynamics. It’s like that in the animal kingdom. Humans are animals.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]
If the guy don’t want to have the kid, then I highly doubt he’ll care if some other guy raises “his” kids. If he didn’t want the kid, then why would he have strong feelings toward his progeny? [/quote]

I agree with you here. That’s why there are plenty of divorces even with children involved.

It’s not what the guy will do.

When the wife does something, it is because she believes it (explicitly or subliminally). It’s not actually what might be true.

I’m sure that having kids is a deterrent to many men from divorcing. I strongly believe that without kids, the divorce rate would be greater than 50%.

Without houses owned in common, the divorce rate would also be even greater. Women like to joke about sending their husbands packing to an apartment in the hood as deterrent.

I think that scaredycat is right in that relationships are about power dynamics. It’s like that in the animal kingdom. Humans are animals.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]
If the guy don’t want to have the kid, then I highly doubt he’ll care if some other guy raises “his” kids. If he didn’t want the kid, then why would he have strong feelings toward his progeny? [/quote]

I agree with you here. That’s why there are plenty of divorces even with children involved.

It’s not what the guy will do.

When the wife does something, it is because she believes it (explicitly or subliminally). It’s not actually what might be true.

I’m sure that having kids is a deterrent to many men from divorcing. I strongly believe that without kids, the divorce rate would be greater than 50%.

Without houses owned in common, the divorce rate would also be even greater. Women like to joke about sending their husbands packing to an apartment in the hood as deterrent.

I think that scaredycat is right in that relationships are about power dynamics. It’s like that in the animal kingdom. Humans are animals.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]
If the guy don’t want to have the kid, then I highly doubt he’ll care if some other guy raises “his” kids. If he didn’t want the kid, then why would he have strong feelings toward his progeny? [/quote]

I agree with you here. That’s why there are plenty of divorces even with children involved.

It’s not what the guy will do.

When the wife does something, it is because she believes it (explicitly or subliminally). It’s not actually what might be true.

I’m sure that having kids is a deterrent to many men from divorcing. I strongly believe that without kids, the divorce rate would be greater than 50%.

Without houses owned in common, the divorce rate would also be even greater. Women like to joke about sending their husbands packing to an apartment in the hood as deterrent.

I think that scaredycat is right in that relationships are about power dynamics. It’s like that in the animal kingdom. Humans are animals.

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