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June 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM #229247June 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM #229096temeculaguyParticipant
Slightly different scenario, this is no way a defense of rural or agricultual areas but a theory regarding areas that were once nice and fall from grace as opposed to just an area that is, was and may always be poor. Hillcrest very well could have been next, in the 1980’s it was going to crap, creeping in from North Park (which fit the theory as well) but both benefitted from revitalization, being a little hip and being the gay area is the X factor, that is the antidote to pedestrian ghetto theory. Golden hill was once a nice area too. Having mixed use zoning can go either way. Kensington became hip, while city heights went bad. Downtown was once a mess, then hip and cool, it can always go back up or down. Rancho Bernardo or Scripps has no advantage over any of these areas or any ghetto, in fact climate and location are inferior. they are some of the older examples of this type of planning and I’ll bet it never goes ghetto, while the mixed use areas can go either way in the next 30 years, it’s all about zoning and planning. Or I could be wrong.
June 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM #229215temeculaguyParticipantSlightly different scenario, this is no way a defense of rural or agricultual areas but a theory regarding areas that were once nice and fall from grace as opposed to just an area that is, was and may always be poor. Hillcrest very well could have been next, in the 1980’s it was going to crap, creeping in from North Park (which fit the theory as well) but both benefitted from revitalization, being a little hip and being the gay area is the X factor, that is the antidote to pedestrian ghetto theory. Golden hill was once a nice area too. Having mixed use zoning can go either way. Kensington became hip, while city heights went bad. Downtown was once a mess, then hip and cool, it can always go back up or down. Rancho Bernardo or Scripps has no advantage over any of these areas or any ghetto, in fact climate and location are inferior. they are some of the older examples of this type of planning and I’ll bet it never goes ghetto, while the mixed use areas can go either way in the next 30 years, it’s all about zoning and planning. Or I could be wrong.
June 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM #229222temeculaguyParticipantSlightly different scenario, this is no way a defense of rural or agricultual areas but a theory regarding areas that were once nice and fall from grace as opposed to just an area that is, was and may always be poor. Hillcrest very well could have been next, in the 1980’s it was going to crap, creeping in from North Park (which fit the theory as well) but both benefitted from revitalization, being a little hip and being the gay area is the X factor, that is the antidote to pedestrian ghetto theory. Golden hill was once a nice area too. Having mixed use zoning can go either way. Kensington became hip, while city heights went bad. Downtown was once a mess, then hip and cool, it can always go back up or down. Rancho Bernardo or Scripps has no advantage over any of these areas or any ghetto, in fact climate and location are inferior. they are some of the older examples of this type of planning and I’ll bet it never goes ghetto, while the mixed use areas can go either way in the next 30 years, it’s all about zoning and planning. Or I could be wrong.
June 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM #229259temeculaguyParticipantSlightly different scenario, this is no way a defense of rural or agricultual areas but a theory regarding areas that were once nice and fall from grace as opposed to just an area that is, was and may always be poor. Hillcrest very well could have been next, in the 1980’s it was going to crap, creeping in from North Park (which fit the theory as well) but both benefitted from revitalization, being a little hip and being the gay area is the X factor, that is the antidote to pedestrian ghetto theory. Golden hill was once a nice area too. Having mixed use zoning can go either way. Kensington became hip, while city heights went bad. Downtown was once a mess, then hip and cool, it can always go back up or down. Rancho Bernardo or Scripps has no advantage over any of these areas or any ghetto, in fact climate and location are inferior. they are some of the older examples of this type of planning and I’ll bet it never goes ghetto, while the mixed use areas can go either way in the next 30 years, it’s all about zoning and planning. Or I could be wrong.
June 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM #229272temeculaguyParticipantSlightly different scenario, this is no way a defense of rural or agricultual areas but a theory regarding areas that were once nice and fall from grace as opposed to just an area that is, was and may always be poor. Hillcrest very well could have been next, in the 1980’s it was going to crap, creeping in from North Park (which fit the theory as well) but both benefitted from revitalization, being a little hip and being the gay area is the X factor, that is the antidote to pedestrian ghetto theory. Golden hill was once a nice area too. Having mixed use zoning can go either way. Kensington became hip, while city heights went bad. Downtown was once a mess, then hip and cool, it can always go back up or down. Rancho Bernardo or Scripps has no advantage over any of these areas or any ghetto, in fact climate and location are inferior. they are some of the older examples of this type of planning and I’ll bet it never goes ghetto, while the mixed use areas can go either way in the next 30 years, it’s all about zoning and planning. Or I could be wrong.
June 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM #229161golfprozParticipantThe current ghettos are large enough for the poor folks. Short of a complete meltdown of the economy creating a much larger percentage of po-folks Temecula and other outlying burbs should be just fine. What makes you think the po-folks want McMansions? They are probably smart enough to stay in Compton, O-Side or Santa Ana in the small duplexes they currently live in.
June 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM #229280golfprozParticipantThe current ghettos are large enough for the poor folks. Short of a complete meltdown of the economy creating a much larger percentage of po-folks Temecula and other outlying burbs should be just fine. What makes you think the po-folks want McMansions? They are probably smart enough to stay in Compton, O-Side or Santa Ana in the small duplexes they currently live in.
June 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM #229289golfprozParticipantThe current ghettos are large enough for the poor folks. Short of a complete meltdown of the economy creating a much larger percentage of po-folks Temecula and other outlying burbs should be just fine. What makes you think the po-folks want McMansions? They are probably smart enough to stay in Compton, O-Side or Santa Ana in the small duplexes they currently live in.
June 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM #229323golfprozParticipantThe current ghettos are large enough for the poor folks. Short of a complete meltdown of the economy creating a much larger percentage of po-folks Temecula and other outlying burbs should be just fine. What makes you think the po-folks want McMansions? They are probably smart enough to stay in Compton, O-Side or Santa Ana in the small duplexes they currently live in.
June 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM #229338golfprozParticipantThe current ghettos are large enough for the poor folks. Short of a complete meltdown of the economy creating a much larger percentage of po-folks Temecula and other outlying burbs should be just fine. What makes you think the po-folks want McMansions? They are probably smart enough to stay in Compton, O-Side or Santa Ana in the small duplexes they currently live in.
June 27, 2008 at 6:17 AM #229276Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI see Temecula much in the same way as Valencia in North L.A.,
At first it was considered out in the sticks and was a low cost bedroom community, now because of correct business friendly zoning and large business parks that were developed, there is almost as much traffic flowing into Valencia as there is out on any given morning.
That for better or worse depending on how you view things is what I see happening in The T.V.
Also I see the U.S.A public responding in much the same way as they did in 1973, there will be in just a few years many more high mileage (35+) car’s on the road than SUV’s , within two years electric cars will be main stream.
June 27, 2008 at 6:17 AM #229395Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI see Temecula much in the same way as Valencia in North L.A.,
At first it was considered out in the sticks and was a low cost bedroom community, now because of correct business friendly zoning and large business parks that were developed, there is almost as much traffic flowing into Valencia as there is out on any given morning.
That for better or worse depending on how you view things is what I see happening in The T.V.
Also I see the U.S.A public responding in much the same way as they did in 1973, there will be in just a few years many more high mileage (35+) car’s on the road than SUV’s , within two years electric cars will be main stream.
June 27, 2008 at 6:17 AM #229404Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI see Temecula much in the same way as Valencia in North L.A.,
At first it was considered out in the sticks and was a low cost bedroom community, now because of correct business friendly zoning and large business parks that were developed, there is almost as much traffic flowing into Valencia as there is out on any given morning.
That for better or worse depending on how you view things is what I see happening in The T.V.
Also I see the U.S.A public responding in much the same way as they did in 1973, there will be in just a few years many more high mileage (35+) car’s on the road than SUV’s , within two years electric cars will be main stream.
June 27, 2008 at 6:17 AM #229439Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantI see Temecula much in the same way as Valencia in North L.A.,
At first it was considered out in the sticks and was a low cost bedroom community, now because of correct business friendly zoning and large business parks that were developed, there is almost as much traffic flowing into Valencia as there is out on any given morning.
That for better or worse depending on how you view things is what I see happening in The T.V.
Also I see the U.S.A public responding in much the same way as they did in 1973, there will be in just a few years many more high mileage (35+) car’s on the road than SUV’s , within two years electric cars will be main stream.
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