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January 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM #131255January 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM #130989
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ParticipantI wonder whether the banks’ SEC filings have that sort of data in them.
The original Bloomberg article citing ~17M houses vacant – well, I doubt there are all that many non bank owned vacant houses. Completed builder inventory is another possible contributing category.
Anecdotal reports that Indymac cannot hold inventory are meaningless. Judging by offered CD rates, Indymac is more desperate for cash than most. We should be grateful, though; banks like Indymac will help the market move to reality that much faster.
January 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM #131170Fearful
ParticipantI wonder whether the banks’ SEC filings have that sort of data in them.
The original Bloomberg article citing ~17M houses vacant – well, I doubt there are all that many non bank owned vacant houses. Completed builder inventory is another possible contributing category.
Anecdotal reports that Indymac cannot hold inventory are meaningless. Judging by offered CD rates, Indymac is more desperate for cash than most. We should be grateful, though; banks like Indymac will help the market move to reality that much faster.
January 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM #131176Fearful
ParticipantI wonder whether the banks’ SEC filings have that sort of data in them.
The original Bloomberg article citing ~17M houses vacant – well, I doubt there are all that many non bank owned vacant houses. Completed builder inventory is another possible contributing category.
Anecdotal reports that Indymac cannot hold inventory are meaningless. Judging by offered CD rates, Indymac is more desperate for cash than most. We should be grateful, though; banks like Indymac will help the market move to reality that much faster.
January 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM #131237Fearful
ParticipantI wonder whether the banks’ SEC filings have that sort of data in them.
The original Bloomberg article citing ~17M houses vacant – well, I doubt there are all that many non bank owned vacant houses. Completed builder inventory is another possible contributing category.
Anecdotal reports that Indymac cannot hold inventory are meaningless. Judging by offered CD rates, Indymac is more desperate for cash than most. We should be grateful, though; banks like Indymac will help the market move to reality that much faster.
January 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM #131275Fearful
ParticipantI wonder whether the banks’ SEC filings have that sort of data in them.
The original Bloomberg article citing ~17M houses vacant – well, I doubt there are all that many non bank owned vacant houses. Completed builder inventory is another possible contributing category.
Anecdotal reports that Indymac cannot hold inventory are meaningless. Judging by offered CD rates, Indymac is more desperate for cash than most. We should be grateful, though; banks like Indymac will help the market move to reality that much faster.
January 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM #130999Bugs
ParticipantI’m on a first-name basis with the Chief Appraiser at Indymac. I’ll ask him and get back to you on it.
January 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM #131180Bugs
ParticipantI’m on a first-name basis with the Chief Appraiser at Indymac. I’ll ask him and get back to you on it.
January 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM #131186Bugs
ParticipantI’m on a first-name basis with the Chief Appraiser at Indymac. I’ll ask him and get back to you on it.
January 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM #131247Bugs
ParticipantI’m on a first-name basis with the Chief Appraiser at Indymac. I’ll ask him and get back to you on it.
January 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM #131285Bugs
ParticipantI’m on a first-name basis with the Chief Appraiser at Indymac. I’ll ask him and get back to you on it.
January 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM #131009nostradamus
ParticipantWhile there is no clear-cut answer to the question of bank-owned RE held off the market, there are plenty of reasons to believe that we have only seen a fraction of available inventory for sale. Who is holding this inventory and why?
Builders holding inventory (previously posted here) WSJ Article
The Bloomberg article (posted earlier on this thread) states that banks are holding onto inventory. You can contact that reporter at bwillis@bloomberg.net maybe he'll explain how he reached that conclusion. His stated source is:
US Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab4.html As you can see from that table (which gives the break-down HereWeGo wanted), 17.89 million homes sit vacant. Of those, 2 million are for sale. Whether the bank owns them or not, I find it unsettling.
Here is all the US Census info on housing for Q3 '07. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307ind.html
One interesting table is this, which shows that the vacancy rate is the highest since 1960. Between 2004 and 2007 the vacancy rate jumped 50%. Gee, what else happened between 2004 and 2007? SOMEBODY is holding those empty homes. Builders? Banks? Individuals? Who knows. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab1.html
January 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM #131189nostradamus
ParticipantWhile there is no clear-cut answer to the question of bank-owned RE held off the market, there are plenty of reasons to believe that we have only seen a fraction of available inventory for sale. Who is holding this inventory and why?
Builders holding inventory (previously posted here) WSJ Article
The Bloomberg article (posted earlier on this thread) states that banks are holding onto inventory. You can contact that reporter at bwillis@bloomberg.net maybe he'll explain how he reached that conclusion. His stated source is:
US Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab4.html As you can see from that table (which gives the break-down HereWeGo wanted), 17.89 million homes sit vacant. Of those, 2 million are for sale. Whether the bank owns them or not, I find it unsettling.
Here is all the US Census info on housing for Q3 '07. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307ind.html
One interesting table is this, which shows that the vacancy rate is the highest since 1960. Between 2004 and 2007 the vacancy rate jumped 50%. Gee, what else happened between 2004 and 2007? SOMEBODY is holding those empty homes. Builders? Banks? Individuals? Who knows. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab1.html
January 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM #131196nostradamus
ParticipantWhile there is no clear-cut answer to the question of bank-owned RE held off the market, there are plenty of reasons to believe that we have only seen a fraction of available inventory for sale. Who is holding this inventory and why?
Builders holding inventory (previously posted here) WSJ Article
The Bloomberg article (posted earlier on this thread) states that banks are holding onto inventory. You can contact that reporter at bwillis@bloomberg.net maybe he'll explain how he reached that conclusion. His stated source is:
US Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab4.html As you can see from that table (which gives the break-down HereWeGo wanted), 17.89 million homes sit vacant. Of those, 2 million are for sale. Whether the bank owns them or not, I find it unsettling.
Here is all the US Census info on housing for Q3 '07. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307ind.html
One interesting table is this, which shows that the vacancy rate is the highest since 1960. Between 2004 and 2007 the vacancy rate jumped 50%. Gee, what else happened between 2004 and 2007? SOMEBODY is holding those empty homes. Builders? Banks? Individuals? Who knows. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab1.html
January 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM #131257nostradamus
ParticipantWhile there is no clear-cut answer to the question of bank-owned RE held off the market, there are plenty of reasons to believe that we have only seen a fraction of available inventory for sale. Who is holding this inventory and why?
Builders holding inventory (previously posted here) WSJ Article
The Bloomberg article (posted earlier on this thread) states that banks are holding onto inventory. You can contact that reporter at bwillis@bloomberg.net maybe he'll explain how he reached that conclusion. His stated source is:
US Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab4.html As you can see from that table (which gives the break-down HereWeGo wanted), 17.89 million homes sit vacant. Of those, 2 million are for sale. Whether the bank owns them or not, I find it unsettling.
Here is all the US Census info on housing for Q3 '07. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307ind.html
One interesting table is this, which shows that the vacancy rate is the highest since 1960. Between 2004 and 2007 the vacancy rate jumped 50%. Gee, what else happened between 2004 and 2007? SOMEBODY is holding those empty homes. Builders? Banks? Individuals? Who knows. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/qtr307/q307tab1.html
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