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June 18, 2007 at 5:33 PM #60232June 18, 2007 at 5:33 PM #60264AnonymousGuest
I hate to admit this, but just like many others. I trusted a colleague’s judgement before my own.
Core Client.
June 18, 2007 at 5:42 PM #60234SD RealtorParticipantI agree with your last post 100% core… Some say the stock market is totally manipulated by crooks… maybe it is maybe it is not, I still invest knowing the risks….the same is true for pretty much any investment that will outperform inflation. It sucks all that much worse when you find that you were part of a deep rooted criminal scheme. I know, I have been there. It is lame.
Alot of people who post here have NO sympathy at all for the people who lost money. In fact there are many people who consider themselves victims because they have sat on the sidelines patiently saving cash because they were priced out of the market. That the housing boom was in part caused by irrational speculation. Thus they can never buy a house because of the greed of others.
Who is to say who is right? You see what I am saying? This is sometimes why you see the harsh responses about the people who (yes may have been victimized) but who also (in the eyes of many people) were part of the problem.
One last thing, I don’t think capitalism is built on greed. The rush of making easy money, whether it is because you win a football bet, or you flip a home, should not be intertwined with making a profit selling goods or providing services in a society.
June 18, 2007 at 5:42 PM #60266SD RealtorParticipantI agree with your last post 100% core… Some say the stock market is totally manipulated by crooks… maybe it is maybe it is not, I still invest knowing the risks….the same is true for pretty much any investment that will outperform inflation. It sucks all that much worse when you find that you were part of a deep rooted criminal scheme. I know, I have been there. It is lame.
Alot of people who post here have NO sympathy at all for the people who lost money. In fact there are many people who consider themselves victims because they have sat on the sidelines patiently saving cash because they were priced out of the market. That the housing boom was in part caused by irrational speculation. Thus they can never buy a house because of the greed of others.
Who is to say who is right? You see what I am saying? This is sometimes why you see the harsh responses about the people who (yes may have been victimized) but who also (in the eyes of many people) were part of the problem.
One last thing, I don’t think capitalism is built on greed. The rush of making easy money, whether it is because you win a football bet, or you flip a home, should not be intertwined with making a profit selling goods or providing services in a society.
June 18, 2007 at 6:09 PM #60253AnonymousGuestYes, I can respect that. I don’t plan on giving up my dreams of financial freedom one day. I do plan on investing again, but rest assured it will be based on solid foundation. And like seeing a doctor, I want a second opinion.
Core Client.
June 18, 2007 at 6:09 PM #60286AnonymousGuestYes, I can respect that. I don’t plan on giving up my dreams of financial freedom one day. I do plan on investing again, but rest assured it will be based on solid foundation. And like seeing a doctor, I want a second opinion.
Core Client.
June 18, 2007 at 7:32 PM #60289HereWeGoParticipantLet us confess that we are all a little greedy sometimes, that is what drives many of us to succeed and become wealthy.
I don’t have a problem with a desire to make money, but I have a real issue with being escorted to the cleaners. If the investors in this scheme were in fact defrauded, I wish them the best in their recovery efforts. Nonetheless, an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure, if not more.
June 18, 2007 at 7:32 PM #60322HereWeGoParticipantLet us confess that we are all a little greedy sometimes, that is what drives many of us to succeed and become wealthy.
I don’t have a problem with a desire to make money, but I have a real issue with being escorted to the cleaners. If the investors in this scheme were in fact defrauded, I wish them the best in their recovery efforts. Nonetheless, an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure, if not more.
June 18, 2007 at 8:47 PM #60323DCRogersParticipantI think we need a little dose of William Burroughs to put this situation in perspective:
- “If you’re doin’ business with a religious son of a bitch, get it in writing. His word isn’t worth shit, not with the Good Lord tellin’ him how to fuck you on the deal.”
June 18, 2007 at 8:47 PM #60356DCRogersParticipantI think we need a little dose of William Burroughs to put this situation in perspective:
- “If you’re doin’ business with a religious son of a bitch, get it in writing. His word isn’t worth shit, not with the Good Lord tellin’ him how to fuck you on the deal.”
June 18, 2007 at 9:07 PM #60333DCRogersParticipantCoreClient, one small feather in the scale of justice against your cause is that while this site has been quite open to all viewpoints, an attempt to place an opposing view on your website by BuyerWillEPB (“Revenge of the Bitter Renters”) was removed. (At least, I got an error…) Whether I agree with that poster or not, this seemed a sign that postings were more to create legal momentum rather than creating a real conversation…
(All things aside, on both sides of the aisle, I bet we agree on the kinds of things that should happen to those Montecastro folks… even the most heartless folks here towards your self-proclaimed plight likely share your determination to see them do hard time!)
June 18, 2007 at 9:07 PM #60366DCRogersParticipantCoreClient, one small feather in the scale of justice against your cause is that while this site has been quite open to all viewpoints, an attempt to place an opposing view on your website by BuyerWillEPB (“Revenge of the Bitter Renters”) was removed. (At least, I got an error…) Whether I agree with that poster or not, this seemed a sign that postings were more to create legal momentum rather than creating a real conversation…
(All things aside, on both sides of the aisle, I bet we agree on the kinds of things that should happen to those Montecastro folks… even the most heartless folks here towards your self-proclaimed plight likely share your determination to see them do hard time!)
June 18, 2007 at 9:33 PM #60341no_such_realityParticipantone small feather in the scale of justice against your cause
All posts questioning the innocence of the plaintiffs are gone. That smacks of deceit.
Anger was the typical emotion displayed by the pro-plaintiff posters.
In my experience, anger is often a bully response of those that know they are wrong, combine it with deceit and that feather becomes a stone on the scale of justice. Think about every scammer you see getting outted by the TV news. What do you see? Lies and anger.
June 18, 2007 at 9:33 PM #60374no_such_realityParticipantone small feather in the scale of justice against your cause
All posts questioning the innocence of the plaintiffs are gone. That smacks of deceit.
Anger was the typical emotion displayed by the pro-plaintiff posters.
In my experience, anger is often a bully response of those that know they are wrong, combine it with deceit and that feather becomes a stone on the scale of justice. Think about every scammer you see getting outted by the TV news. What do you see? Lies and anger.
June 19, 2007 at 11:37 PM #60658bob007Participanti think some of the “victims” knew what they were doing. they went along for the “ride”. Now that the party ended they are complaining that they were cheated.
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