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June 16, 2007 at 4:14 PM #59903June 17, 2007 at 11:33 AM #59973
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June 17, 2007 at 9:45 PM #60021GuestWhen people find out they have been defrauded most stay silent because they are afraid of public ridicule. These victims should be commended for standing up against these con-artist. They are being publicly stoned by words from people who have no difficulty handing out public lashings.
I know many of these people involved in the Stonewood Scam, so I can speak from experience. Do these who write such hurtful words, know them?……….I think not, because if they did, they would hide their faces in shame. These people risked ridicule so that others would not become victims. Most of the victims of Stonewood have chosen to stay quiet, dispute losing everything. This silence only validates the perpetrators, and allows them to seek out more unwitting victims. So to the people willing to fight against fraud, thank you.
Flatulence.June 17, 2007 at 9:45 PM #60054GuestWhen people find out they have been defrauded most stay silent because they are afraid of public ridicule. These victims should be commended for standing up against these con-artist. They are being publicly stoned by words from people who have no difficulty handing out public lashings.
I know many of these people involved in the Stonewood Scam, so I can speak from experience. Do these who write such hurtful words, know them?……….I think not, because if they did, they would hide their faces in shame. These people risked ridicule so that others would not become victims. Most of the victims of Stonewood have chosen to stay quiet, dispute losing everything. This silence only validates the perpetrators, and allows them to seek out more unwitting victims. So to the people willing to fight against fraud, thank you.
Flatulence.June 17, 2007 at 9:54 PM #60023GuestThe Broker was indeed responsible, he knew exactly what he was doing. He used these investors as staw buyers to fatten his own pocket. That will be proven when all the evidence finaly comes out. Certainly he will try to switch the blame on his victims, but didn’t he have fiduciary obligations?. Or are brokers not required to have ethics?
Soon brokers will be right up there with car salesmen and laywers.Flatulence.
June 17, 2007 at 9:54 PM #60055GuestThe Broker was indeed responsible, he knew exactly what he was doing. He used these investors as staw buyers to fatten his own pocket. That will be proven when all the evidence finaly comes out. Certainly he will try to switch the blame on his victims, but didn’t he have fiduciary obligations?. Or are brokers not required to have ethics?
Soon brokers will be right up there with car salesmen and laywers.Flatulence.
June 17, 2007 at 10:00 PM #60025FormerOwner
ParticipantOn the coreclient website, they list New World Mortgage as being involved in the Stonewood Scam. I thought New World was a reputable mortgage brokerage (as reputable as any other mortgage brokerage, that is). Does anyone know exactly what their involvement was? Were there mortgage brokers there that were insiders to the Stonewood scam? How many?
June 17, 2007 at 10:00 PM #60057ParticipantOn the coreclient website, they list New World Mortgage as being involved in the Stonewood Scam. I thought New World was a reputable mortgage brokerage (as reputable as any other mortgage brokerage, that is). Does anyone know exactly what their involvement was? Were there mortgage brokers there that were insiders to the Stonewood scam? How many?
June 17, 2007 at 11:27 PM #60031temeculaguy
ParticipantFlatulence, these people that you know probably don’t hang out here so don’t refer to it as a public stoning, pleeeaasse. If we wanted to read the newspaper we would but the purpose of this place is to voice opinions, you have no right in asking us to not give an opinion regardless of our connection to the victim. If these people got ripped off trying to send money to poor children if Africa, I’d probably stand out there with a sign in hand with them. But that’s not what happened, the lost money trying to get rich quick. I bet they are really nice people and have nice families and I wish it hadn’t happened, I wish the broker wasn’t a crook and they hadn’t been greedy. I’m curious since you know them how come you didn’t try to buy five houses on a Nurse’s salary, didn’t they tell you about it when it was going on. Or did they tell you and you decided that it would be stupid to take on so much risk (sorry am I allowed to use the word stupid). I lost a grand on ETOYS and a grand on CDNOW back in the dot com bubble and I’m still mad at myself for spending my income tax refund that year on two stocks with flawed fundamentals, my fault, my money, no trip to Hawaii that year, that was all and that is all anyone should risk, what they can afford to lose. Learned my lesson, made a better investment the next year and went to London and Hawaii. Maybe if I had borrowed two million dollars that I didn’t have and couldn’t afford then lost that rather than some extra cash I had, then nobody would be able to criticize me or you would defend me. Even if the brokers hadn’t been crooks they would have lost their asses buying that much real estate they couldn’t afford at peak prices. I could have, we all could have, but we didn’t because that would have been stupid (sorry again, keeps slipping out).
June 17, 2007 at 11:27 PM #60063ParticipantFlatulence, these people that you know probably don’t hang out here so don’t refer to it as a public stoning, pleeeaasse. If we wanted to read the newspaper we would but the purpose of this place is to voice opinions, you have no right in asking us to not give an opinion regardless of our connection to the victim. If these people got ripped off trying to send money to poor children if Africa, I’d probably stand out there with a sign in hand with them. But that’s not what happened, the lost money trying to get rich quick. I bet they are really nice people and have nice families and I wish it hadn’t happened, I wish the broker wasn’t a crook and they hadn’t been greedy. I’m curious since you know them how come you didn’t try to buy five houses on a Nurse’s salary, didn’t they tell you about it when it was going on. Or did they tell you and you decided that it would be stupid to take on so much risk (sorry am I allowed to use the word stupid). I lost a grand on ETOYS and a grand on CDNOW back in the dot com bubble and I’m still mad at myself for spending my income tax refund that year on two stocks with flawed fundamentals, my fault, my money, no trip to Hawaii that year, that was all and that is all anyone should risk, what they can afford to lose. Learned my lesson, made a better investment the next year and went to London and Hawaii. Maybe if I had borrowed two million dollars that I didn’t have and couldn’t afford then lost that rather than some extra cash I had, then nobody would be able to criticize me or you would defend me. Even if the brokers hadn’t been crooks they would have lost their asses buying that much real estate they couldn’t afford at peak prices. I could have, we all could have, but we didn’t because that would have been stupid (sorry again, keeps slipping out).
June 18, 2007 at 12:01 AM #60037June 18, 2007 at 12:01 AM #60069June 18, 2007 at 3:06 PM #60151ibjames
Participantyaay for you, but no one here is on that site
June 18, 2007 at 3:06 PM #60183Participantyaay for you, but no one here is on that site
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