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November 12, 2009 at 3:58 PM #482527November 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM #482028
equalizer
Participant[quote=ucodegen]
I personally don’t want regulation but education.
If people choose to eat the junk and be unhealthy, that’s their business and their own damn fault.
True.. but with Universal Health Care.. we all will be paying for it. Even if you decide to be healthy and take time to exercise, you’ll be paying for those who decide not to, to have a bad diet and be couch potatoes.[/quote]
You mean you health care premiums at your company are half those of your obese chain-smoking diabetic Rush/Moore lookalike co-workers today?
No, they are almost always identical except at a few firms where smoking is targeted, but premium difference is only few hundred/year.
Remember, the average Gov’t employee makes Moore look like Lance Armstrong and you pay for their health care.
Anyone who says they don’t want a fat tax (or Allan’s re-education boot camp) doesn’t realize that what your obese co-worker does directly affects your premiums. Small firms that have high claims get booted through massive hikes.
The Business Roundtable projects that health care costs will double in 10 years.
Guess that will make USA super competitive; all the jobs will come here.
So get over your false pretense of freedom unless you want 12% UE forever.BTW, sugar is much more addictive than tobacco.
November 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM #482194Participant[quote=ucodegen]
I personally don’t want regulation but education.
If people choose to eat the junk and be unhealthy, that’s their business and their own damn fault.
True.. but with Universal Health Care.. we all will be paying for it. Even if you decide to be healthy and take time to exercise, you’ll be paying for those who decide not to, to have a bad diet and be couch potatoes.[/quote]
You mean you health care premiums at your company are half those of your obese chain-smoking diabetic Rush/Moore lookalike co-workers today?
No, they are almost always identical except at a few firms where smoking is targeted, but premium difference is only few hundred/year.
Remember, the average Gov’t employee makes Moore look like Lance Armstrong and you pay for their health care.
Anyone who says they don’t want a fat tax (or Allan’s re-education boot camp) doesn’t realize that what your obese co-worker does directly affects your premiums. Small firms that have high claims get booted through massive hikes.
The Business Roundtable projects that health care costs will double in 10 years.
Guess that will make USA super competitive; all the jobs will come here.
So get over your false pretense of freedom unless you want 12% UE forever.BTW, sugar is much more addictive than tobacco.
November 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM #482563Participant[quote=ucodegen]
I personally don’t want regulation but education.
If people choose to eat the junk and be unhealthy, that’s their business and their own damn fault.
True.. but with Universal Health Care.. we all will be paying for it. Even if you decide to be healthy and take time to exercise, you’ll be paying for those who decide not to, to have a bad diet and be couch potatoes.[/quote]
You mean you health care premiums at your company are half those of your obese chain-smoking diabetic Rush/Moore lookalike co-workers today?
No, they are almost always identical except at a few firms where smoking is targeted, but premium difference is only few hundred/year.
Remember, the average Gov’t employee makes Moore look like Lance Armstrong and you pay for their health care.
Anyone who says they don’t want a fat tax (or Allan’s re-education boot camp) doesn’t realize that what your obese co-worker does directly affects your premiums. Small firms that have high claims get booted through massive hikes.
The Business Roundtable projects that health care costs will double in 10 years.
Guess that will make USA super competitive; all the jobs will come here.
So get over your false pretense of freedom unless you want 12% UE forever.BTW, sugar is much more addictive than tobacco.
November 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM #482643Participant[quote=ucodegen]
I personally don’t want regulation but education.
If people choose to eat the junk and be unhealthy, that’s their business and their own damn fault.
True.. but with Universal Health Care.. we all will be paying for it. Even if you decide to be healthy and take time to exercise, you’ll be paying for those who decide not to, to have a bad diet and be couch potatoes.[/quote]
You mean you health care premiums at your company are half those of your obese chain-smoking diabetic Rush/Moore lookalike co-workers today?
No, they are almost always identical except at a few firms where smoking is targeted, but premium difference is only few hundred/year.
Remember, the average Gov’t employee makes Moore look like Lance Armstrong and you pay for their health care.
Anyone who says they don’t want a fat tax (or Allan’s re-education boot camp) doesn’t realize that what your obese co-worker does directly affects your premiums. Small firms that have high claims get booted through massive hikes.
The Business Roundtable projects that health care costs will double in 10 years.
Guess that will make USA super competitive; all the jobs will come here.
So get over your false pretense of freedom unless you want 12% UE forever.BTW, sugar is much more addictive than tobacco.
November 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM #482868Participant[quote=ucodegen]
I personally don’t want regulation but education.
If people choose to eat the junk and be unhealthy, that’s their business and their own damn fault.
True.. but with Universal Health Care.. we all will be paying for it. Even if you decide to be healthy and take time to exercise, you’ll be paying for those who decide not to, to have a bad diet and be couch potatoes.[/quote]
You mean you health care premiums at your company are half those of your obese chain-smoking diabetic Rush/Moore lookalike co-workers today?
No, they are almost always identical except at a few firms where smoking is targeted, but premium difference is only few hundred/year.
Remember, the average Gov’t employee makes Moore look like Lance Armstrong and you pay for their health care.
Anyone who says they don’t want a fat tax (or Allan’s re-education boot camp) doesn’t realize that what your obese co-worker does directly affects your premiums. Small firms that have high claims get booted through massive hikes.
The Business Roundtable projects that health care costs will double in 10 years.
Guess that will make USA super competitive; all the jobs will come here.
So get over your false pretense of freedom unless you want 12% UE forever.BTW, sugar is much more addictive than tobacco.
November 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM #481701Hobie
Participantanother good video is SUPERSIZE ME.
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November 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM #481870Participantanother good video is SUPERSIZE ME.
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November 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM #482236Participantanother good video is SUPERSIZE ME.
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November 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM #482315Participantanother good video is SUPERSIZE ME.
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November 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM #482542Participantanother good video is SUPERSIZE ME.
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November 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM #482268jpinpb
ParticipantI always considered HFCS as insidious and evil. It’s in everythinng. Like he said, even bread. I think I might have mentioned it in other threads before. I was surprised that on some of the graphs, coincidentally, after 1975 when HFCS got introduced in the U.S. that the health problems skyrocketed. Now I can’t remember. I think it was obesity they were addressing, but maybe cardio. I was just impressed by the sharp rise about the same time we got HFCS. I’m sure sugar is just as bad as he says, but I really am convinced HFCS is a special breed of danger.
And I remember being a kid and trying one time Gatorade and thinking “bleh.” And years later drinking it. Oh, how tasty. Didn’t know Pepsi bought it and added the HFCS.
And yes, equalizer, sugar is addictive. After he explained the process the liver goes through once you digest it, I believe it. Basically comparing a can of coke to be just as bad as a can of beer.
Makes you really wonder about all these kids afflicted with ADD or AHDD. I really think a good amount of it is related to HFCS. And yet doctors just dispense meds, rather than educating parents and telling them to take their kids of all HFCS.
I’m so glad that growing up my parents really limited our sugar intake. I feel really lucky. My mom made so much from scratch. I remember being a kid and being so bothered that we couldn’t go to McDonald’s like the other kids or drink sodas. That was a rare thing. My dad was really anti-soda. And that was before 1975.
I don’t think I’m that old and it doesn’t seem that long ago, but boy, in comparison, it was a different world and much simpler.
On another note, I was not aware that it was Nixon that started WIC. I think I’ve learned more about Nixon this year than when I was in school.
November 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM #482438ParticipantI always considered HFCS as insidious and evil. It’s in everythinng. Like he said, even bread. I think I might have mentioned it in other threads before. I was surprised that on some of the graphs, coincidentally, after 1975 when HFCS got introduced in the U.S. that the health problems skyrocketed. Now I can’t remember. I think it was obesity they were addressing, but maybe cardio. I was just impressed by the sharp rise about the same time we got HFCS. I’m sure sugar is just as bad as he says, but I really am convinced HFCS is a special breed of danger.
And I remember being a kid and trying one time Gatorade and thinking “bleh.” And years later drinking it. Oh, how tasty. Didn’t know Pepsi bought it and added the HFCS.
And yes, equalizer, sugar is addictive. After he explained the process the liver goes through once you digest it, I believe it. Basically comparing a can of coke to be just as bad as a can of beer.
Makes you really wonder about all these kids afflicted with ADD or AHDD. I really think a good amount of it is related to HFCS. And yet doctors just dispense meds, rather than educating parents and telling them to take their kids of all HFCS.
I’m so glad that growing up my parents really limited our sugar intake. I feel really lucky. My mom made so much from scratch. I remember being a kid and being so bothered that we couldn’t go to McDonald’s like the other kids or drink sodas. That was a rare thing. My dad was really anti-soda. And that was before 1975.
I don’t think I’m that old and it doesn’t seem that long ago, but boy, in comparison, it was a different world and much simpler.
On another note, I was not aware that it was Nixon that started WIC. I think I’ve learned more about Nixon this year than when I was in school.
November 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM #482807ParticipantI always considered HFCS as insidious and evil. It’s in everythinng. Like he said, even bread. I think I might have mentioned it in other threads before. I was surprised that on some of the graphs, coincidentally, after 1975 when HFCS got introduced in the U.S. that the health problems skyrocketed. Now I can’t remember. I think it was obesity they were addressing, but maybe cardio. I was just impressed by the sharp rise about the same time we got HFCS. I’m sure sugar is just as bad as he says, but I really am convinced HFCS is a special breed of danger.
And I remember being a kid and trying one time Gatorade and thinking “bleh.” And years later drinking it. Oh, how tasty. Didn’t know Pepsi bought it and added the HFCS.
And yes, equalizer, sugar is addictive. After he explained the process the liver goes through once you digest it, I believe it. Basically comparing a can of coke to be just as bad as a can of beer.
Makes you really wonder about all these kids afflicted with ADD or AHDD. I really think a good amount of it is related to HFCS. And yet doctors just dispense meds, rather than educating parents and telling them to take their kids of all HFCS.
I’m so glad that growing up my parents really limited our sugar intake. I feel really lucky. My mom made so much from scratch. I remember being a kid and being so bothered that we couldn’t go to McDonald’s like the other kids or drink sodas. That was a rare thing. My dad was really anti-soda. And that was before 1975.
I don’t think I’m that old and it doesn’t seem that long ago, but boy, in comparison, it was a different world and much simpler.
On another note, I was not aware that it was Nixon that started WIC. I think I’ve learned more about Nixon this year than when I was in school.
November 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM #482887ParticipantI always considered HFCS as insidious and evil. It’s in everythinng. Like he said, even bread. I think I might have mentioned it in other threads before. I was surprised that on some of the graphs, coincidentally, after 1975 when HFCS got introduced in the U.S. that the health problems skyrocketed. Now I can’t remember. I think it was obesity they were addressing, but maybe cardio. I was just impressed by the sharp rise about the same time we got HFCS. I’m sure sugar is just as bad as he says, but I really am convinced HFCS is a special breed of danger.
And I remember being a kid and trying one time Gatorade and thinking “bleh.” And years later drinking it. Oh, how tasty. Didn’t know Pepsi bought it and added the HFCS.
And yes, equalizer, sugar is addictive. After he explained the process the liver goes through once you digest it, I believe it. Basically comparing a can of coke to be just as bad as a can of beer.
Makes you really wonder about all these kids afflicted with ADD or AHDD. I really think a good amount of it is related to HFCS. And yet doctors just dispense meds, rather than educating parents and telling them to take their kids of all HFCS.
I’m so glad that growing up my parents really limited our sugar intake. I feel really lucky. My mom made so much from scratch. I remember being a kid and being so bothered that we couldn’t go to McDonald’s like the other kids or drink sodas. That was a rare thing. My dad was really anti-soda. And that was before 1975.
I don’t think I’m that old and it doesn’t seem that long ago, but boy, in comparison, it was a different world and much simpler.
On another note, I was not aware that it was Nixon that started WIC. I think I’ve learned more about Nixon this year than when I was in school.
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