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February 8, 2010 at 12:57 PM #511568February 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM #510685Allan from FallbrookParticipant
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I still think a pump shotgun is a far superior close in weapon, especially in terms of how much damage it does. Put a 3″ magnum buck load into one of their grapes and its Jackson Pollock time.
How about an ‘semi-automatic’ shotgun (no pumping needed between shots). Some of the ones made are ‘inertial’ based. This means that they use the ‘kickback’ of the shell to load the next round as opposed to using gas bled from around the discharging round.
http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_autoshotguns.htm
Then there is this one for the really sick.
Even states that it is designed for zombie attacks!![/quote]
Uco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams. You have a misfire in a pump, you rack the slide and chamber a fresh shell. You have a misfire or jam in a semi, its a whole different, and more involved, set of problems. Nothing is 100% perfect, in terms of functionality, but pump shotguns (and revolvers) are about as idiot-proof as it gets in firearms.
I’ll stick with my old school Remmie 870P, thank you very much. Parkerized finish, Choate top folder, 8 shot mag and 3″ Magnum receiver. Good to go.
February 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM #510832Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=ucodegen]
I still think a pump shotgun is a far superior close in weapon, especially in terms of how much damage it does. Put a 3″ magnum buck load into one of their grapes and its Jackson Pollock time.
How about an ‘semi-automatic’ shotgun (no pumping needed between shots). Some of the ones made are ‘inertial’ based. This means that they use the ‘kickback’ of the shell to load the next round as opposed to using gas bled from around the discharging round.
http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_autoshotguns.htm
Then there is this one for the really sick.
Even states that it is designed for zombie attacks!![/quote]
Uco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams. You have a misfire in a pump, you rack the slide and chamber a fresh shell. You have a misfire or jam in a semi, its a whole different, and more involved, set of problems. Nothing is 100% perfect, in terms of functionality, but pump shotguns (and revolvers) are about as idiot-proof as it gets in firearms.
I’ll stick with my old school Remmie 870P, thank you very much. Parkerized finish, Choate top folder, 8 shot mag and 3″ Magnum receiver. Good to go.
February 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM #511243Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=ucodegen]
I still think a pump shotgun is a far superior close in weapon, especially in terms of how much damage it does. Put a 3″ magnum buck load into one of their grapes and its Jackson Pollock time.
How about an ‘semi-automatic’ shotgun (no pumping needed between shots). Some of the ones made are ‘inertial’ based. This means that they use the ‘kickback’ of the shell to load the next round as opposed to using gas bled from around the discharging round.
http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_autoshotguns.htm
Then there is this one for the really sick.
Even states that it is designed for zombie attacks!![/quote]
Uco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams. You have a misfire in a pump, you rack the slide and chamber a fresh shell. You have a misfire or jam in a semi, its a whole different, and more involved, set of problems. Nothing is 100% perfect, in terms of functionality, but pump shotguns (and revolvers) are about as idiot-proof as it gets in firearms.
I’ll stick with my old school Remmie 870P, thank you very much. Parkerized finish, Choate top folder, 8 shot mag and 3″ Magnum receiver. Good to go.
February 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM #511337Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=ucodegen]
I still think a pump shotgun is a far superior close in weapon, especially in terms of how much damage it does. Put a 3″ magnum buck load into one of their grapes and its Jackson Pollock time.
How about an ‘semi-automatic’ shotgun (no pumping needed between shots). Some of the ones made are ‘inertial’ based. This means that they use the ‘kickback’ of the shell to load the next round as opposed to using gas bled from around the discharging round.
http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_autoshotguns.htm
Then there is this one for the really sick.
Even states that it is designed for zombie attacks!![/quote]
Uco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams. You have a misfire in a pump, you rack the slide and chamber a fresh shell. You have a misfire or jam in a semi, its a whole different, and more involved, set of problems. Nothing is 100% perfect, in terms of functionality, but pump shotguns (and revolvers) are about as idiot-proof as it gets in firearms.
I’ll stick with my old school Remmie 870P, thank you very much. Parkerized finish, Choate top folder, 8 shot mag and 3″ Magnum receiver. Good to go.
February 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM #511588Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=ucodegen]
I still think a pump shotgun is a far superior close in weapon, especially in terms of how much damage it does. Put a 3″ magnum buck load into one of their grapes and its Jackson Pollock time.
How about an ‘semi-automatic’ shotgun (no pumping needed between shots). Some of the ones made are ‘inertial’ based. This means that they use the ‘kickback’ of the shell to load the next round as opposed to using gas bled from around the discharging round.
http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_autoshotguns.htm
Then there is this one for the really sick.
Even states that it is designed for zombie attacks!![/quote]
Uco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams. You have a misfire in a pump, you rack the slide and chamber a fresh shell. You have a misfire or jam in a semi, its a whole different, and more involved, set of problems. Nothing is 100% perfect, in terms of functionality, but pump shotguns (and revolvers) are about as idiot-proof as it gets in firearms.
I’ll stick with my old school Remmie 870P, thank you very much. Parkerized finish, Choate top folder, 8 shot mag and 3″ Magnum receiver. Good to go.
February 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM #510695Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMaybe they will come from the Base ???
Marine zombies ??
At that point I think it better to join them or at least pretend to be one.
February 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM #510842Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMaybe they will come from the Base ???
Marine zombies ??
At that point I think it better to join them or at least pretend to be one.
February 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM #511253Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMaybe they will come from the Base ???
Marine zombies ??
At that point I think it better to join them or at least pretend to be one.
February 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM #511348Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMaybe they will come from the Base ???
Marine zombies ??
At that point I think it better to join them or at least pretend to be one.
February 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM #511598Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMaybe they will come from the Base ???
Marine zombies ??
At that point I think it better to join them or at least pretend to be one.
February 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM #510725ucodegenParticipantUco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams.
Many of the semi-autos will ‘re-rack’ like a pump action. Two ways to jam. The auto mechanism gums up creating too much drag and a feed problem – which happens to have the same characteristics as a feed problem on a pump action because a good percentage of the internal feed mechanism is similar between the two.
This is why I like the Benelli too.. it does not use gas pressure to feed, therefore the mechanism is less likely to get gummed up.
I like the AA12’s ability to be reloaded.. just like an assault rifle or semi-auto handgun. Some of the shells for the AA12 are also quite nice (not all shotguns can handle them).
February 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM #510872ucodegenParticipantUco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams.
Many of the semi-autos will ‘re-rack’ like a pump action. Two ways to jam. The auto mechanism gums up creating too much drag and a feed problem – which happens to have the same characteristics as a feed problem on a pump action because a good percentage of the internal feed mechanism is similar between the two.
This is why I like the Benelli too.. it does not use gas pressure to feed, therefore the mechanism is less likely to get gummed up.
I like the AA12’s ability to be reloaded.. just like an assault rifle or semi-auto handgun. Some of the shells for the AA12 are also quite nice (not all shotguns can handle them).
February 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM #511283ucodegenParticipantUco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams.
Many of the semi-autos will ‘re-rack’ like a pump action. Two ways to jam. The auto mechanism gums up creating too much drag and a feed problem – which happens to have the same characteristics as a feed problem on a pump action because a good percentage of the internal feed mechanism is similar between the two.
This is why I like the Benelli too.. it does not use gas pressure to feed, therefore the mechanism is less likely to get gummed up.
I like the AA12’s ability to be reloaded.. just like an assault rifle or semi-auto handgun. Some of the shells for the AA12 are also quite nice (not all shotguns can handle them).
February 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM #511377ucodegenParticipantUco: That Benelli is a thing of beauty and the AA12 looks like fun, but I’m fundamentally mistrustful of semi-auto shotguns in a combat situation and solely because of the potential for jams.
Many of the semi-autos will ‘re-rack’ like a pump action. Two ways to jam. The auto mechanism gums up creating too much drag and a feed problem – which happens to have the same characteristics as a feed problem on a pump action because a good percentage of the internal feed mechanism is similar between the two.
This is why I like the Benelli too.. it does not use gas pressure to feed, therefore the mechanism is less likely to get gummed up.
I like the AA12’s ability to be reloaded.. just like an assault rifle or semi-auto handgun. Some of the shells for the AA12 are also quite nice (not all shotguns can handle them).
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