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August 12, 2007 at 8:02 AM #73733August 12, 2007 at 9:33 AM #73653Allan from FallbrookParticipant
temeculaguy: Having grown up in the SF/Bay Area, I will admit that I’m partial to the offerings from Napa and Sonoma. I am also opposed to anything that Parker recommends on both principle and taste.
The Costco in Temecula actually has a pretty good selection as well, Josh. Unfortunately, California wines are in the same position that French wines were in the 1980s: Overpriced and overvalued and about to be overtaken by more reasonably priced competitors (California in the case of the French wines; Chile, Argentina and Australia in the case of California wines).
Twinkie filling is the best, isn’t it? We might be veering off into “Mad Max” territory here a little, though. I’m not sure that the end of Western Civ as we know it is nigh. On the safe side, I have staked out a section of the canned goods aisle at Albertson’s just in case.
August 12, 2007 at 9:33 AM #73780Allan from FallbrookParticipanttemeculaguy: Having grown up in the SF/Bay Area, I will admit that I’m partial to the offerings from Napa and Sonoma. I am also opposed to anything that Parker recommends on both principle and taste.
The Costco in Temecula actually has a pretty good selection as well, Josh. Unfortunately, California wines are in the same position that French wines were in the 1980s: Overpriced and overvalued and about to be overtaken by more reasonably priced competitors (California in the case of the French wines; Chile, Argentina and Australia in the case of California wines).
Twinkie filling is the best, isn’t it? We might be veering off into “Mad Max” territory here a little, though. I’m not sure that the end of Western Civ as we know it is nigh. On the safe side, I have staked out a section of the canned goods aisle at Albertson’s just in case.
August 12, 2007 at 9:33 AM #73774Allan from FallbrookParticipanttemeculaguy: Having grown up in the SF/Bay Area, I will admit that I’m partial to the offerings from Napa and Sonoma. I am also opposed to anything that Parker recommends on both principle and taste.
The Costco in Temecula actually has a pretty good selection as well, Josh. Unfortunately, California wines are in the same position that French wines were in the 1980s: Overpriced and overvalued and about to be overtaken by more reasonably priced competitors (California in the case of the French wines; Chile, Argentina and Australia in the case of California wines).
Twinkie filling is the best, isn’t it? We might be veering off into “Mad Max” territory here a little, though. I’m not sure that the end of Western Civ as we know it is nigh. On the safe side, I have staked out a section of the canned goods aisle at Albertson’s just in case.
August 12, 2007 at 10:29 AM #73822CostaMesaParticipant95 margaux…mmmmm those were the days…
Actually, a good Belgian beer seems to go best with beefaroni. I recommend Kasteel Tripel – clear, crisp and strong. Delightful.
Oh, and the biggest bottle of Tabasco Green you can find.
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August 12, 2007 at 10:29 AM #73817CostaMesaParticipant95 margaux…mmmmm those were the days…
Actually, a good Belgian beer seems to go best with beefaroni. I recommend Kasteel Tripel – clear, crisp and strong. Delightful.
Oh, and the biggest bottle of Tabasco Green you can find.
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August 12, 2007 at 10:29 AM #73696CostaMesaParticipant95 margaux…mmmmm those were the days…
Actually, a good Belgian beer seems to go best with beefaroni. I recommend Kasteel Tripel – clear, crisp and strong. Delightful.
Oh, and the biggest bottle of Tabasco Green you can find.
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August 12, 2007 at 10:39 AM #73825temeculaguyParticipantCameron Hughes!! Costco’s answer to Charles Shaw. Most are actually $20-$40 wine bought from higher end wineries and sold exclusively at costco in the $10 range. They are numbered by lot, none are grown by cameron, he’s a broker, every costco get only a few dozen cases, once they are gone, that’s it, never again and sometimes they only last a few days. Then a few weeks later another one is released. Cool business model, no marketing, costco prepays for his entire stock.
I don’t know if costco makes much margin but the gimmick makes me drop into various costcos whenever I pass one just to see what they have. I am not quite to the point where i buy one and drink it in the parking lot in order to decide if i need to get back in line to buy a case but it is getting close. More than once I have retuned the next day only to find it sold out forever. There is a reason costco is the largest retailer of wine in the world and their latest trick will cement their position.
Don’t want to play the cameron hughes lottery, J. Lohr cab is always there, always about $12 and always good. Jump up to the wood crate area and, well, that area is like porn for me and I won’t even get started or I’ll need a shower.
August 12, 2007 at 10:39 AM #73820temeculaguyParticipantCameron Hughes!! Costco’s answer to Charles Shaw. Most are actually $20-$40 wine bought from higher end wineries and sold exclusively at costco in the $10 range. They are numbered by lot, none are grown by cameron, he’s a broker, every costco get only a few dozen cases, once they are gone, that’s it, never again and sometimes they only last a few days. Then a few weeks later another one is released. Cool business model, no marketing, costco prepays for his entire stock.
I don’t know if costco makes much margin but the gimmick makes me drop into various costcos whenever I pass one just to see what they have. I am not quite to the point where i buy one and drink it in the parking lot in order to decide if i need to get back in line to buy a case but it is getting close. More than once I have retuned the next day only to find it sold out forever. There is a reason costco is the largest retailer of wine in the world and their latest trick will cement their position.
Don’t want to play the cameron hughes lottery, J. Lohr cab is always there, always about $12 and always good. Jump up to the wood crate area and, well, that area is like porn for me and I won’t even get started or I’ll need a shower.
August 12, 2007 at 10:39 AM #73698temeculaguyParticipantCameron Hughes!! Costco’s answer to Charles Shaw. Most are actually $20-$40 wine bought from higher end wineries and sold exclusively at costco in the $10 range. They are numbered by lot, none are grown by cameron, he’s a broker, every costco get only a few dozen cases, once they are gone, that’s it, never again and sometimes they only last a few days. Then a few weeks later another one is released. Cool business model, no marketing, costco prepays for his entire stock.
I don’t know if costco makes much margin but the gimmick makes me drop into various costcos whenever I pass one just to see what they have. I am not quite to the point where i buy one and drink it in the parking lot in order to decide if i need to get back in line to buy a case but it is getting close. More than once I have retuned the next day only to find it sold out forever. There is a reason costco is the largest retailer of wine in the world and their latest trick will cement their position.
Don’t want to play the cameron hughes lottery, J. Lohr cab is always there, always about $12 and always good. Jump up to the wood crate area and, well, that area is like porn for me and I won’t even get started or I’ll need a shower.
August 12, 2007 at 10:43 AM #73828barnaby33ParticipantSure, I can recommend several:
$10 Avalon cabernet 04, definitely a steal.
$15 Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet 05, light but goes nicely with food.
$15 Banfi Riserva Chianti 03. Not your typical style chianti but still has good acidity to go with tomato based foods. Great pizza wine.$12 Cameron hughes Yountville, I haven’t tried this one but for 12 bucks its worth a shot.
Josh
August 12, 2007 at 10:43 AM #73823barnaby33ParticipantSure, I can recommend several:
$10 Avalon cabernet 04, definitely a steal.
$15 Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet 05, light but goes nicely with food.
$15 Banfi Riserva Chianti 03. Not your typical style chianti but still has good acidity to go with tomato based foods. Great pizza wine.$12 Cameron hughes Yountville, I haven’t tried this one but for 12 bucks its worth a shot.
Josh
August 12, 2007 at 10:43 AM #73701barnaby33ParticipantSure, I can recommend several:
$10 Avalon cabernet 04, definitely a steal.
$15 Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet 05, light but goes nicely with food.
$15 Banfi Riserva Chianti 03. Not your typical style chianti but still has good acidity to go with tomato based foods. Great pizza wine.$12 Cameron hughes Yountville, I haven’t tried this one but for 12 bucks its worth a shot.
Josh
August 12, 2007 at 10:52 AM #73832temeculaguyParticipanthere’s a vid about cameron’s business model
http://www.chwine.com/press/multimedia/298/Business-Week-TV
Josh, good tips, haven’t tried the avalon but will. The yountsville, lot 35, fortunatley is one of the larger releases at 10k cases, so you have some time to sample, lot 38 has only 500 cases worldwide so that one requires parking lot tastings.
I’m sorry where did this topic start?
August 12, 2007 at 10:52 AM #73824temeculaguyParticipanthere’s a vid about cameron’s business model
http://www.chwine.com/press/multimedia/298/Business-Week-TV
Josh, good tips, haven’t tried the avalon but will. The yountsville, lot 35, fortunatley is one of the larger releases at 10k cases, so you have some time to sample, lot 38 has only 500 cases worldwide so that one requires parking lot tastings.
I’m sorry where did this topic start?
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