Solar car?! WTF?!

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene][quote]That will not take you from Downtown San Diego to Carlsbad and back on a June day FASTER than 55 mph.[/quote]

FYI, there are already some real-life reports on its range on one charge. One guy from Oceanside reports being able to go 83 miles on one charge at 62 mph (in ‘ECO’ mode, with mild AC).

[quote]Not to mention the cost of gas versus the cost of the charging station…

To me the Prius makes far more sense…[/quote]

Accounting for the cost of gas, and assuming 10-year ownership, Prius comes out cheaper than Leaf+PV.

On the other hand, after 10 years, the Prius owner will have a 10 year old car, and the Leaf owner will have a 10 year old car and a PV system that continues to reduce his electricity bill by $1000/year for many more years.[/quote]

Maybe true but I cant get excited about that range. Especially as the life of the batteries began to fail.

I would say it makes a lot more since if you bought a new home and were already in the mindset that you were going to build a PV grid anway. Then the car would be icing on the cake but from what I have seen so far the leaf is not that impressive.

Also PV systems used to be, I don’t honestly know anymore, a huge pain in the ass to maintain. The whole PV thing is a little bit of a lifestyle kind of thing. I am not sure I like the headache of something like that.

A place like SD is very ideal for the leaf… Good battery temperature. I a place like PHX or SEATAC… Not much sense.

Again the car makes sense but only when all the conditions are just right.

CE

[Eugene]

Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.

[Eugene]

Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.

[Eugene]

Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.

[Eugene]

Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.

[Eugene]

Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]

I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]

I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]

I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]

I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.

I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.

But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.

In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]

I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.

CE

[Coronita]

I’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….

Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….

Still rather go TDI.

[Coronita]

I’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….

Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….

Still rather go TDI.

[Coronita]

I’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….

Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….

Still rather go TDI.

[Coronita]

I’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….

Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….

Still rather go TDI.

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