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February 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM #672099February 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM #670950
Eugene
ParticipantAlso, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.
February 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM #671011Eugene
ParticipantAlso, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.
February 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM #671621Eugene
ParticipantAlso, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.
February 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM #671760Eugene
ParticipantAlso, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.
February 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM #672104Eugene
ParticipantAlso, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.
February 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM #671005CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]
I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.
CE
February 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM #671066CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]
I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.
CE
February 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM #671676CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]
I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.
CE
February 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM #671815CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]
I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.
CE
February 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM #672160CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Eugene]Also, I have a retraction to make, too.
I did the numbers assuming that PV powers the car directly, therefore, you need 1 kwh from the PV grid per 1 kwh spent by the car.
But that’s not the entire story. Your PV produces most power during the peak hours, and your EV is charged at night. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, you’d have one meter for the house and one meter for the car. Each kwh produced by the PV system knocks off $0.28 off your main electricity bill, but each kwh pumped into the EV battery during super off-peak hours (midnight to 5 a.m.) only costs you $0.145. So a PV system big enough to power the EV would not just make you energy-neutral, it would make money for you.
In the example above (Leaf + 2.5 kW DC of panels) you pay $40k up front, you don’t spend any money on gasoline, and the setup reduces your main electric bill on the order of $400/year.[/quote]
I think that would make the most sense. Sell during the day and buy power during the night.
CE
February 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM #671015Coronita
ParticipantI’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….
Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….
Still rather go TDI.
February 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM #671076Coronita
ParticipantI’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….
Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….
Still rather go TDI.
February 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM #671686Coronita
ParticipantI’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….
Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….
Still rather go TDI.
February 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM #671825Coronita
ParticipantI’ll just wait for the Tesla S (or until I can afford a Tesla Roadster)….
Sorry, but given if I’m driving on the freeway and my choices were to be in a Nissan Leaf or a larger car. I’d pick the larger car….Saving the environment is nice…Unless you’re dead….
Still rather go TDI.
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