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February 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM #20502February 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM #758801
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ParticipantBase salary vs. total compensation ? Is a bonus added on ? Negotiation room ?
February 5, 2013 at 10:33 AM #758853Oni Koroshi
ParticipantThose numbers look reasonable. You can’t compare advertised salries with actuals. Did you actually get an offer $110-115? Most companies aren’t going to list their salary they’re actually willing to pay, they know that most people are going to negotiate.
You don’t say if the 110-115 numbers you’re talking about are from Irvine listings.
Even if they are, being able to negotiate an extra 10% doesn’t seem far fetched. You also have to remember that the numbers are averages. The best and brightest don’t generally look for a job through standard job listings, they’re recruited. That represents the high end of the salaries. So the low end from standard job postings doesn’t really seem too far off.
February 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM #758978kev374
Participantwhen I look at salary listings for the same class of job I see they are in the $110-115k range and employers seem absolutely refusing to budge from the $115k mark. That’s about $15k (13%) lower than salary.com data.
February 8, 2013 at 1:23 PM #758980CoronitaParticipantHonestly, a difference of $15k feels like it is closer to $8k after taxes and possibly other constraints, work conditions, etc.
Figure out how much time commitment,extra commute that $15k difference makes you have more…
Translation: it might not be worth the extra time you would need to spend (commute, dealing with longer hours). And then figure out how much you would actually take home on a w2, especially if you don’t have many itemized deductions…
There were some jobs for me that I did that I swear I would have made more if I worked at mcdonalds for all the unpaid OT I had.
And frankly, you shouldn’t be counting on a salary alone if you’re 30+…Because you’re getting closer to 40, and in technology, it’s gonna get much harder for you to keep up to your younger peers unless you move into a higher role or management. So better to have more free time, and figure out other ways to make more money with that free time than to work for someone else for that extra $15k, kill your free time hours, and pay w2 taxes on that $15k, and then have very little left. Not worth it.
Easier said than done. But might as well get use to it.. You’re salary will be in decline unless you move up or you spend more time doing something else.
These days, when I get my review the only thing I care about is stock grants. Raise of 3-4% for being a top performer (which I get) versus something like 1-2% for so-so performance…Insignificant… Cash bonus? Yeah, it sort of helps pay for the bills…Sort of… Ok not really…Maybe for some who can now afford to buy a Venti latte at Starbucks instead of a Grande…But since I don’t waste my money at starbucks to begin with, I don’t give a crap. Maybe for me it’s just a way to keep score (hey, relative to my peers, I’m at X versus Y)…For the pay difference to actually make a dent in my bottom line? Nope, not really.
Figured out rather get the 1-2% raise and have more time than 3-4% and work like a dog for someone else.
February 12, 2013 at 10:37 PM #759304Anonymous
GuestApplying for similar jobs at Intuit, Active Network, Sony (SNEI). Anyone have thoughts about those companies? I’ve done my homework and have come to my conclusions but I am interested to hear what others know or hear about these places.
Interviews at all 3 in the next 5 days.
February 13, 2013 at 12:41 AM #759306CoronitaParticipant[quote=maynard]Applying for similar jobs at Intuit, Active Network, Sony (SNEI). Anyone have thoughts about those companies? I’ve done my homework and have come to my conclusions but I am interested to hear what others know or hear about these places.
Interviews at all 3 in the next 5 days.[/quote]
Get the job first, then PM me and I’ll you what the comps are. It’s negotiable but depends if you’re being classified into a Senior Engineer, Staff, or Principal/Architect. Intuit most likely would pay the best, if you factor in the bonus, stock option, and RSU grant (assuming you perform reasonably well).
BTW: if you’re interviewing @ Intuit, be prepared for the touchy feely type of interview questions in as much as technical questions. Active network was more toward technical, but due to the nature of the business, you’ll get your touchy feely type of questions too.
If you’re wondering about stability, I would say, Intuit, Sony, Active….For Intuit, if you have a choice, I would either try to get into CTO office, or the CTG group. If would be slightly worried about getting into the IT dept (IIT)… In the past IIT was treated as “cost”, so it was as much cost cutting and outsourcing as possible..But that was when it was under different leadership, so it might be different now. CTO is thought of as product development so it’s better work environment. And CTG is the tax group, which you can’t go wrong there.
February 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM #759310GuestThanks. I am also very interested in working environment and the work/life balance from people work at those companies in technology (software development). I am less concerned with the salary aspect as that will usually work itself out.
February 13, 2013 at 7:57 AM #759311spdrun
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Absorb as much knowledge as you can. Network. Quit after 1-2 years of big-fucking-corepirate hellhole (with a day’s notice) and either strike out and state your own business, or go freelance. Oh, and try to meet your future boss before taking the job. Coming to work every day wanting to kick some PoS in the junque wouldn’t be fun.
February 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM #759322CoronitaParticipant[quote=maynard]Thanks. I am also very interested in working environment and the work/life balance from people work at those companies in technology (software development). I am less concerned with the salary aspect as that will usually work itself out.[/quote]
Depends on which group you’re in… For Intuit, it’s seasonal… For instance, if you work in the tax group you will be busier during what’s called mini-peak and peak (times when tax filings occur). For other parts of the group, it depends on the project(s) and their respective launch dates.
Don’t know about Active network. Never worked their though I talked to them briefly along time ago when they needed system architects.
As far as SNEI, it varies. But sony isn’t exactly doing well these days. (NEI might be ok)…
Get the position first, then worry about it.
Also, you might want to check out glassdoor’s feedback on said company(ies).
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