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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #569259June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568273nattyParticipant
[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of gameJune 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568369nattyParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of gameJune 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568872nattyParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of gameJune 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568979nattyParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of gameJune 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #569264nattyParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of gameJune 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568370DWCAPParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568467DWCAPParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568972DWCAPParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #569079DWCAPParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #569363DWCAPParticipant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #568718sunny88ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #568813sunny88ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #569323sunny88ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #569428sunny88ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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