Slovenia vs USA

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.

Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.

No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.

I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.

I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]

Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.

Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.

His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism

As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html

And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html

So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.

[Anonymous]

General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).

If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.

[Anonymous]

General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).

If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.

[Anonymous]

General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).

If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.

[Anonymous]

General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).

If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.

[Anonymous]

General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).

If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.

[CDMA ENG]

The ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!

So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

The ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!

So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

The ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!

So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

The ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!

So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

The ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!

So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.

CE

[sdduuuude]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.

I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.

As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.

If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]

You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.

The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.

The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.

I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.

I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.

As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.

If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]

You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.

The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.

The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.

I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.

I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.

As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.

If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]

You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.

The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.

The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.

I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.

I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.

As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.

If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]

You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.

The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.

The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.

I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.

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