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December 9, 2011 at 6:55 AM #19342December 9, 2011 at 8:16 AM #734357urbanrealtorParticipant
Preferred plumbing. Google them.
I use them for our HOA repairs.
We actually tried to give them an upgrade and service contract for the whole complex and the owner told us our pipes were old but that such an upgrade would be a waste of money.Props to him for turning down a 100k job he felt unnecessary.
Google them.
December 9, 2011 at 8:34 AM #734359desmondParticipantAre you sure it is your water line or is it the drain pipes that are leaking?
December 9, 2011 at 9:50 AM #734369FearfulParticipantOuch.
A too-little-too-late piece of advice: Home warranties are not worth jack. I am astonished by how much money they make for the companies. And I have been suckered in multiple times myself. Never again.
It is really unpleasant to contemplate, but you ought to re-pipe in the attic (assuming you are in a single story). Furthermore, do it right; this is plumbing that will be there for the remaining life of the house. Also, it involves tearing apart walls to access the bibbs; don’t settle for lousy drywall work.
Sorry for your predicament. Again, ouch; I feel your pain.
December 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM #734380anParticipantCheck out this plumber I use:
Matt Gast
619-937-1564
[email protected]December 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM #734385sdrealtorParticipantPipes Plumbing has done tons of these in North County
December 9, 2011 at 2:58 PM #734394sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=Fearful]Ouch.
A too-little-too-late piece of advice: Home warranties are not worth jack. I am astonished by how much money they make for the companies. And I have been suckered in multiple times myself. Never again.
It is really unpleasant to contemplate, but you ought to re-pipe in the attic (assuming you are in a single story). Furthermore, do it right; this is plumbing that will be there for the remaining life of the house. Also, it involves tearing apart walls to access the bibbs; don’t settle for lousy drywall work.
Sorry for your predicament. Again, ouch; I feel your pain.[/quote]
Home warranties are a good thing when transferring ownership. The seller pays and the buyer gets the benefit. After a year or two, then just let it go.
This rerouting thing is a pain, but once done, you’ll be fine. I think every house in Clairmont has or will need this done.
December 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM #734397sdrealtorParticipantActually the home warranty is more to benefit the seller than the buyer. Its a bit of insurance for non-disclosure of problems. In essence the seller says, here is everything I know about the property but if something happens you think I did or should have known about call the home warranty company not me.
December 9, 2011 at 3:14 PM #734401svelteParticipantI’ve only talked to one person who has used a home warranty successfully. He had been in his place a few months in RB when the furnace went out. He did indeed get a new furnace for free.
December 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM #734402svelteParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
This rerouting thing is a pain, but once done, you’ll be fine. I think every house in Clairmont has or will need this done.[/quote]I know of a development from the early 80s in Escondido where this is common also. Doesn’t seem to scare the owners as they are all very long term (many are still original owners by choice) and it doesn’t seem to hurt the resale value.
December 9, 2011 at 5:05 PM #734409FearfulParticipant[quote=svelte]I’ve only talked to one person who has used a home warranty successfully. He had been in his place a few months in RB when the furnace went out. He did indeed get a new furnace for free.[/quote]
The only problem with that is that the warranty company buys the absolute minimum furnace and pays the installer the absolute minimum. Thus you get a shoddy replacement and shoddy – or at least minimalist – workmanship. The service company is also usually disgruntled because they dislike dealing with the warranty company.December 9, 2011 at 5:12 PM #734411svelteParticipant[quote=Fearful][quote=svelte]I’ve only talked to one person who has used a home warranty successfully. He had been in his place a few months in RB when the furnace went out. He did indeed get a new furnace for free.[/quote]
The only problem with that is that the warranty company buys the absolute minimum furnace and pays the installer the absolute minimum. Thus you get a shoddy replacement and shoddy – or at least minimalist – workmanship. The service company is also usually disgruntled because they dislike dealing with the warranty company.[/quote]Perhaps, but you get a brand new furnace FOR FREE to replace one that is likely 20-30 years old. That can tide you over for awhile.
After all, you didn’t have a brand new furnace when you bought the place, right?
It all depends upon if you see the glass half full or half empty.
December 9, 2011 at 5:14 PM #734412FearfulParticipant[quote=svelte] … it doesn’t seem to hurt the resale value.[/quote]
Mr. sd92128 could argue that the sellers knew the pipes were still in the slab and that this was a significant defect in the house. It’s almost a given that pipes routed in the slab will leak at some point, especially if the slab is not “post tension”. The fact that the pipes had not been rerouted was an issue that the seller and selling realtor ought to have made the buyer aware of.December 9, 2011 at 5:14 PM #734410FearfulParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Actually the home warranty is more to benefit the seller than the buyer. Its a bit of insurance for non-disclosure of problems. In essence the seller says, here is everything I know about the property but if something happens you think I did or should have known about call the home warranty company not me.[/quote]
Excellent perspective. However, that warranty protection is illusory for the seller, also. If the buyer encounters a large scale problem that the warranty company does not cover, they may pursue the seller anyway.December 9, 2011 at 5:23 PM #734413FearfulParticipant[quote=svelte]
Perhaps, but you get a brand new furnace FOR FREE to replace one that is likely 20-30 years old. That can tide you over for awhile.
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There’s a massive potential debate regarding this, but personally I would rather be saddled with the potential repair bill than be saddled with a crappy furnace, crappily installed. I’ve lived with lousy major appliances (ask me about my Viking built-in fridge some time!) and lousy installations and both are not worth their freebie value. You wouldn’t believe how noisy and inefficient a bad furnace can be; you wouldn’t believe how problematic a bad installation can be. Water heaters are about the only major appliance that I would take a freebie on; the installations are so simple, the codes are so strict, and the appliances are so uniform, that I would trust even a freebie doofus to install one.In that vein, and back to the original topic: I hope Mr. sd92128 does not cheap the repiping. Badly done, it can be a real detriment to the house; well done, and it is a real addition to the house’s value.
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