A simpler life

[spdrun]

I love flying Spirit. You can get bargain-basement fares coast-to-coast for about $100, then add either “1st class” or giant exit-row seats for another $70 or so.

[The-Shoveler]

Been around a good part of the world (some nice places some not so nice).

Pretty much just like hanging around here these days (really hard to beat anywhere else in the world).

I like going to Montage Laguna beach resort or walking Carlsbad resort area (near downtown), walking moonlight beach etc…

Fancy cars don’t do it for me.

Maybe I found my simpler life.

Last weekend we did an overnight in Santa Barbara,

Lots of nice places real close.

[svelte]

To paraphrase supertramp, such deep thoughts for such a simple life.

We are truly all still children at heart, scaredy. Thats why spoiled rich kids rarely turn out grear, they still expect the privilege they had as a child.

I am positive that i am who i am because of my meager childhood with moral parents.

I need to remember that others have been down a different path, seen different things, and that has made them who they are also.

[svelte]

My favorite t-shirt from the 1970s was the drawing of two ducks screwing midflight with the corporate slogan underneath…”Fly United”.

That is all.

[scaredyclassic]

Sexual imagery from childhood is incredibly potent

[The-Shoveler]

Just a general comment not aimed at anyone,

Blaming your failures as an adult on your parents is really lame IMO.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Just a general comment not aimed at anyone,

Blaming your failures as an adult on your parents is really lame IMO.[/quote]

Blame is not the same as understanding.

Say for instance you have a disproportionately response to some perceived snub from your partner.

It’s likely that these panicky responses come from a deep place inside where patterns were set long ago.

[The-Shoveler]

Great so you do not have to take “any” responsibility for any action or reaction LOL.

Sorry that is just Lame IMO.

[scaredyclassic]

On the contrary, it is entirely your responsibility to better and understand yourself.

But how did I get here.

To understand all is to forgive all .

The past is alive.

Ghosts are real.

For instance, all of my anxiety and fear about money? That came from 1966 to 1979 in home training. It’s not blame. Its reality.

Yes, I could change, I try to become conscious, I try to work on it.

But some rooting runs deep.

Saw a haunting documentary last night. OF FATHERS AND SONS. A Syrian filmmaker went back home to live and film a jihadist dad and his 8 kids.

It’s pretty clear what blank canvases these children are, and how the world forms us.

And change is possible, but not entirely in our hands.

Except perhaps for the chosen few. perhaps lame is the right word, for the crippling effect the past may have on you. or the salutary effect.

who among us has not said, “I shall do things better than my parents did”?

“In retrospect, this obsessive desire to understand and know what had happened to her makes me think of what Jung said: “The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents.” The word “burden” sounds so negative, but if I think about the calculated systemic oppression against women, the erasure and subjugation of women in my community, what the women have had to sacrifice to stay alive, I wonder if sometimes a parent’s unlived life could also be part of our responsibility. The trade of one generation’s sacrifice to another.”

[The-Shoveler]

With the exception of keeping me fed and a roof over my head until out of High school (Which I appreciate my parents for that), no body gave me nothing I did not go after for myself.

I do not blame anyone but me for my faults.

[scaredyclassic]

exactly. and those little children of the syrian jihadist in the docuemntary OF FATHERS AND SONS, they chose 100% to be little child soldiers. It had nothing to do with their social surroundings or their parents viewpoints.

[The-Shoveler]

That is an a unfortunate extreme example that does not apply to 99% of USA citizens IMO

[scaredyclassic]

it’s kind of like accents. no one thinks they have one. everyone else is a bit odd. I, however, am neutral.

we swim in the water of our culture and our upbringing; we do not even see it.

it’s not even a particularly extreme example. just a clarifying example. once you are embedded in their lives, and see the love they have for each other, their children, for G-d, for country, they are no different than American families and their pride in their own G-d, country and armed forces.

jean paul Sartre was wrong; being does not precede essence. I suspect that your reticence to attribute any credit to your community or family unit to make you who you are is rooted in unresolved childhood issues of independence and separation from the parents. 😉

[The-Shoveler]

I prefer not to wallow in victim-hood but that is just me.

[scaredyclassic]

I don’t understand why you equate learning about the roots of your emotional reactions with being a victim necessarily.

Would studying the history of a nation be (a) useful in learning about its current state of affairs and why it is doing the things it does, or (b) wallowing in the past and blaming our current problems on the historical actors of the past.

Is a nation reborn everyday with no tie to the people before us?

Is a man?

I kind of want to talk to your folks and get their perspective. can you put them on this thread?

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