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August 11, 2010 at 12:48 AM #590195August 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM #589258RenParticipant
[quote=paramount]My total mortgage is ~ $1600/month because I am in fact conservative, and very affordable as a % of my income. My taxes are barely over 1%.
I bought early 2003, were those bubble years? I never even knew what a RE bubble was until around 2005~2006. The $1600 = PITI.
I bought for 270k and put 30k down (of my own hard earned dollars), I have been making payments (never even one day late) for almost 8 years now. I have nothing to show for it, nothing. It’s all gone. I never expected to ‘make’ money on my house, but I never expected it to be a liability either.
I told my wife this past weekend if there is some sort of August surprise and we are not offered any relief that we should positively walk.
It was my intention to move to San Diego this summer, closer to my office. This still may happen, it’s just difficult to do particularly with kids.[/quote]
This whole time I thought you had a major problem, but it’s more regret than a current financial bind. After the tax benefit, you’re actually close to break-even, maybe slightly positive depending on the neighborhood, not counting maintenance. If you ditch it now, you’ll have nothing to show for the last 8 years. Instead, save your credit, rent the place out, and rent in SD. You’ll need to cover some maintenance out of pocket, but inflation will work in your favor and it will cash flow over time. In 22 years you’ll have a paid-for ATM spitting out roughly $1.5k every month (factoring in inflation guesstimate, tax, high maintenance costs of an older property, etc.).
Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.
August 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM #589353RenParticipant[quote=paramount]My total mortgage is ~ $1600/month because I am in fact conservative, and very affordable as a % of my income. My taxes are barely over 1%.
I bought early 2003, were those bubble years? I never even knew what a RE bubble was until around 2005~2006. The $1600 = PITI.
I bought for 270k and put 30k down (of my own hard earned dollars), I have been making payments (never even one day late) for almost 8 years now. I have nothing to show for it, nothing. It’s all gone. I never expected to ‘make’ money on my house, but I never expected it to be a liability either.
I told my wife this past weekend if there is some sort of August surprise and we are not offered any relief that we should positively walk.
It was my intention to move to San Diego this summer, closer to my office. This still may happen, it’s just difficult to do particularly with kids.[/quote]
This whole time I thought you had a major problem, but it’s more regret than a current financial bind. After the tax benefit, you’re actually close to break-even, maybe slightly positive depending on the neighborhood, not counting maintenance. If you ditch it now, you’ll have nothing to show for the last 8 years. Instead, save your credit, rent the place out, and rent in SD. You’ll need to cover some maintenance out of pocket, but inflation will work in your favor and it will cash flow over time. In 22 years you’ll have a paid-for ATM spitting out roughly $1.5k every month (factoring in inflation guesstimate, tax, high maintenance costs of an older property, etc.).
Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.
August 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM #589888RenParticipant[quote=paramount]My total mortgage is ~ $1600/month because I am in fact conservative, and very affordable as a % of my income. My taxes are barely over 1%.
I bought early 2003, were those bubble years? I never even knew what a RE bubble was until around 2005~2006. The $1600 = PITI.
I bought for 270k and put 30k down (of my own hard earned dollars), I have been making payments (never even one day late) for almost 8 years now. I have nothing to show for it, nothing. It’s all gone. I never expected to ‘make’ money on my house, but I never expected it to be a liability either.
I told my wife this past weekend if there is some sort of August surprise and we are not offered any relief that we should positively walk.
It was my intention to move to San Diego this summer, closer to my office. This still may happen, it’s just difficult to do particularly with kids.[/quote]
This whole time I thought you had a major problem, but it’s more regret than a current financial bind. After the tax benefit, you’re actually close to break-even, maybe slightly positive depending on the neighborhood, not counting maintenance. If you ditch it now, you’ll have nothing to show for the last 8 years. Instead, save your credit, rent the place out, and rent in SD. You’ll need to cover some maintenance out of pocket, but inflation will work in your favor and it will cash flow over time. In 22 years you’ll have a paid-for ATM spitting out roughly $1.5k every month (factoring in inflation guesstimate, tax, high maintenance costs of an older property, etc.).
Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.
August 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM #589996RenParticipant[quote=paramount]My total mortgage is ~ $1600/month because I am in fact conservative, and very affordable as a % of my income. My taxes are barely over 1%.
I bought early 2003, were those bubble years? I never even knew what a RE bubble was until around 2005~2006. The $1600 = PITI.
I bought for 270k and put 30k down (of my own hard earned dollars), I have been making payments (never even one day late) for almost 8 years now. I have nothing to show for it, nothing. It’s all gone. I never expected to ‘make’ money on my house, but I never expected it to be a liability either.
I told my wife this past weekend if there is some sort of August surprise and we are not offered any relief that we should positively walk.
It was my intention to move to San Diego this summer, closer to my office. This still may happen, it’s just difficult to do particularly with kids.[/quote]
This whole time I thought you had a major problem, but it’s more regret than a current financial bind. After the tax benefit, you’re actually close to break-even, maybe slightly positive depending on the neighborhood, not counting maintenance. If you ditch it now, you’ll have nothing to show for the last 8 years. Instead, save your credit, rent the place out, and rent in SD. You’ll need to cover some maintenance out of pocket, but inflation will work in your favor and it will cash flow over time. In 22 years you’ll have a paid-for ATM spitting out roughly $1.5k every month (factoring in inflation guesstimate, tax, high maintenance costs of an older property, etc.).
Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.
August 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM #590305RenParticipant[quote=paramount]My total mortgage is ~ $1600/month because I am in fact conservative, and very affordable as a % of my income. My taxes are barely over 1%.
I bought early 2003, were those bubble years? I never even knew what a RE bubble was until around 2005~2006. The $1600 = PITI.
I bought for 270k and put 30k down (of my own hard earned dollars), I have been making payments (never even one day late) for almost 8 years now. I have nothing to show for it, nothing. It’s all gone. I never expected to ‘make’ money on my house, but I never expected it to be a liability either.
I told my wife this past weekend if there is some sort of August surprise and we are not offered any relief that we should positively walk.
It was my intention to move to San Diego this summer, closer to my office. This still may happen, it’s just difficult to do particularly with kids.[/quote]
This whole time I thought you had a major problem, but it’s more regret than a current financial bind. After the tax benefit, you’re actually close to break-even, maybe slightly positive depending on the neighborhood, not counting maintenance. If you ditch it now, you’ll have nothing to show for the last 8 years. Instead, save your credit, rent the place out, and rent in SD. You’ll need to cover some maintenance out of pocket, but inflation will work in your favor and it will cash flow over time. In 22 years you’ll have a paid-for ATM spitting out roughly $1.5k every month (factoring in inflation guesstimate, tax, high maintenance costs of an older property, etc.).
Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.
August 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM #589304carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=temeculaguy]Oh geez, “OK Schools” it’s totally past my bedtime but that one hurts.[/quote]
Well. That just depends on your comparison. π For us, we will probably go to carlsbad, poway or encinitas districts (most likely poway), if we are doing financially well when our kids go to high school. I have no issues with Temecula’s elementary and middle school. But its highshcool is really not as good as the ones in Poway. Look at how Carmel Valley’s housing market is holding up, then you know what is “Good Schools”. It’s not just 20 minutes drive. It’s parents willing to sink their retirement savings into a hole. That is “Good Schools” to me.
August 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM #589398carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=temeculaguy]Oh geez, “OK Schools” it’s totally past my bedtime but that one hurts.[/quote]
Well. That just depends on your comparison. π For us, we will probably go to carlsbad, poway or encinitas districts (most likely poway), if we are doing financially well when our kids go to high school. I have no issues with Temecula’s elementary and middle school. But its highshcool is really not as good as the ones in Poway. Look at how Carmel Valley’s housing market is holding up, then you know what is “Good Schools”. It’s not just 20 minutes drive. It’s parents willing to sink their retirement savings into a hole. That is “Good Schools” to me.
August 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM #589933carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=temeculaguy]Oh geez, “OK Schools” it’s totally past my bedtime but that one hurts.[/quote]
Well. That just depends on your comparison. π For us, we will probably go to carlsbad, poway or encinitas districts (most likely poway), if we are doing financially well when our kids go to high school. I have no issues with Temecula’s elementary and middle school. But its highshcool is really not as good as the ones in Poway. Look at how Carmel Valley’s housing market is holding up, then you know what is “Good Schools”. It’s not just 20 minutes drive. It’s parents willing to sink their retirement savings into a hole. That is “Good Schools” to me.
August 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM #590041carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=temeculaguy]Oh geez, “OK Schools” it’s totally past my bedtime but that one hurts.[/quote]
Well. That just depends on your comparison. π For us, we will probably go to carlsbad, poway or encinitas districts (most likely poway), if we are doing financially well when our kids go to high school. I have no issues with Temecula’s elementary and middle school. But its highshcool is really not as good as the ones in Poway. Look at how Carmel Valley’s housing market is holding up, then you know what is “Good Schools”. It’s not just 20 minutes drive. It’s parents willing to sink their retirement savings into a hole. That is “Good Schools” to me.
August 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM #590350carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=temeculaguy]Oh geez, “OK Schools” it’s totally past my bedtime but that one hurts.[/quote]
Well. That just depends on your comparison. π For us, we will probably go to carlsbad, poway or encinitas districts (most likely poway), if we are doing financially well when our kids go to high school. I have no issues with Temecula’s elementary and middle school. But its highshcool is really not as good as the ones in Poway. Look at how Carmel Valley’s housing market is holding up, then you know what is “Good Schools”. It’s not just 20 minutes drive. It’s parents willing to sink their retirement savings into a hole. That is “Good Schools” to me.
August 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM #589314bearishgurlParticipant[quote=Ren]Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.[/quote]
Ren, I forgot to add last night that Paramount only put 10% down so he is most likely paying at least $180 mo. PMI premium in his “PITI.” Not sure if this is also tax deductible also after putting the property into rental service.
It may be a very l-o-o-o-ong time before he is able to get rid of the PMI.
August 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM #589408bearishgurlParticipant[quote=Ren]Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.[/quote]
Ren, I forgot to add last night that Paramount only put 10% down so he is most likely paying at least $180 mo. PMI premium in his “PITI.” Not sure if this is also tax deductible also after putting the property into rental service.
It may be a very l-o-o-o-ong time before he is able to get rid of the PMI.
August 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM #589943bearishgurlParticipant[quote=Ren]Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.[/quote]
Ren, I forgot to add last night that Paramount only put 10% down so he is most likely paying at least $180 mo. PMI premium in his “PITI.” Not sure if this is also tax deductible also after putting the property into rental service.
It may be a very l-o-o-o-ong time before he is able to get rid of the PMI.
August 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM #590051bearishgurlParticipant[quote=Ren]Maybe you did buy at a high price – so let someone else pay it, at least until the next cycle peak. The very last thing I would do is walk away from this now.[/quote]
Ren, I forgot to add last night that Paramount only put 10% down so he is most likely paying at least $180 mo. PMI premium in his “PITI.” Not sure if this is also tax deductible also after putting the property into rental service.
It may be a very l-o-o-o-ong time before he is able to get rid of the PMI.
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