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April 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM #685947April 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM #684787
briansd1
GuestRen, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.
Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.
Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.
Pricks are survivors, saints are dead.
April 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM #684836briansd1
GuestRen, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.
Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.
Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.
Pricks are survivors, saints are dead.
April 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM #685464briansd1
GuestRen, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.
Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.
Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.
Pricks are survivors, saints are dead.
April 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM #685607briansd1
GuestRen, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.
Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.
Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.
Pricks are survivors, saints are dead.
April 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM #685957briansd1
GuestRen, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.
Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.
Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.
Pricks are survivors, saints are dead.
April 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM #684812Ren
Participant[quote=briansd1]Ren, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.[/quote]
I didn’t say they were saints, I said the worst pricks are the ones who think they are saints, and I’ll amend that to include those pricks who are only acting like saints.
[quote]Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.[/quote]
Those are just the pricks who get noticed. There are a lot more who live in the gutters of society. The vast majority of successful people I know are not pricks.
I’ll grant you that some aspects of a prick can be respected – for example, I (somewhat) respect Limbaugh’s intelligence. Other than that, he’s a complete ass and hypocrite. I don’t respect or admire him.
[quote]Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.[/quote]
You’re assuming that you can’t have some combination of the two – I believe that’s the most effective. You’re right, though – someone who is only cuddly and nice will be consistently run over, and even I (someone who appreciates nice people) am repulsed by weakness.
It is possible to be kind by default and ruthless when appropriate. That’s what I strive for. In some ways it’s actually the easiest and most rewarding way to go – I’m respected by the people I admire and whose opinions matter to me, and I get to run over the people who deserve it.
April 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM #684861Ren
Participant[quote=briansd1]Ren, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.[/quote]
I didn’t say they were saints, I said the worst pricks are the ones who think they are saints, and I’ll amend that to include those pricks who are only acting like saints.
[quote]Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.[/quote]
Those are just the pricks who get noticed. There are a lot more who live in the gutters of society. The vast majority of successful people I know are not pricks.
I’ll grant you that some aspects of a prick can be respected – for example, I (somewhat) respect Limbaugh’s intelligence. Other than that, he’s a complete ass and hypocrite. I don’t respect or admire him.
[quote]Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.[/quote]
You’re assuming that you can’t have some combination of the two – I believe that’s the most effective. You’re right, though – someone who is only cuddly and nice will be consistently run over, and even I (someone who appreciates nice people) am repulsed by weakness.
It is possible to be kind by default and ruthless when appropriate. That’s what I strive for. In some ways it’s actually the easiest and most rewarding way to go – I’m respected by the people I admire and whose opinions matter to me, and I get to run over the people who deserve it.
April 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM #685489Ren
Participant[quote=briansd1]Ren, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.[/quote]
I didn’t say they were saints, I said the worst pricks are the ones who think they are saints, and I’ll amend that to include those pricks who are only acting like saints.
[quote]Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.[/quote]
Those are just the pricks who get noticed. There are a lot more who live in the gutters of society. The vast majority of successful people I know are not pricks.
I’ll grant you that some aspects of a prick can be respected – for example, I (somewhat) respect Limbaugh’s intelligence. Other than that, he’s a complete ass and hypocrite. I don’t respect or admire him.
[quote]Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.[/quote]
You’re assuming that you can’t have some combination of the two – I believe that’s the most effective. You’re right, though – someone who is only cuddly and nice will be consistently run over, and even I (someone who appreciates nice people) am repulsed by weakness.
It is possible to be kind by default and ruthless when appropriate. That’s what I strive for. In some ways it’s actually the easiest and most rewarding way to go – I’m respected by the people I admire and whose opinions matter to me, and I get to run over the people who deserve it.
April 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM #685632Ren
Participant[quote=briansd1]Ren, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.[/quote]
I didn’t say they were saints, I said the worst pricks are the ones who think they are saints, and I’ll amend that to include those pricks who are only acting like saints.
[quote]Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.[/quote]
Those are just the pricks who get noticed. There are a lot more who live in the gutters of society. The vast majority of successful people I know are not pricks.
I’ll grant you that some aspects of a prick can be respected – for example, I (somewhat) respect Limbaugh’s intelligence. Other than that, he’s a complete ass and hypocrite. I don’t respect or admire him.
[quote]Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.[/quote]
You’re assuming that you can’t have some combination of the two – I believe that’s the most effective. You’re right, though – someone who is only cuddly and nice will be consistently run over, and even I (someone who appreciates nice people) am repulsed by weakness.
It is possible to be kind by default and ruthless when appropriate. That’s what I strive for. In some ways it’s actually the easiest and most rewarding way to go – I’m respected by the people I admire and whose opinions matter to me, and I get to run over the people who deserve it.
April 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM #685982Ren
Participant[quote=briansd1]Ren, pricks are not saints. Acting like a saint is part of being a prick.[/quote]
I didn’t say they were saints, I said the worst pricks are the ones who think they are saints, and I’ll amend that to include those pricks who are only acting like saints.
[quote]Society richly rewards pricks; so people learn to become pricks. Prime examples: Donald Trump, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh.
Even the righteous admire and respect pricks. So there’s not much downside to being a prick.[/quote]
Those are just the pricks who get noticed. There are a lot more who live in the gutters of society. The vast majority of successful people I know are not pricks.
I’ll grant you that some aspects of a prick can be respected – for example, I (somewhat) respect Limbaugh’s intelligence. Other than that, he’s a complete ass and hypocrite. I don’t respect or admire him.
[quote]Being kind, gentle and understanding is frought with danger. You’re seen as weak and malleable — someone who can be taken advantage of. And pretty soon you’re crucified. That’s when you become a saint, but then you’re dead.[/quote]
You’re assuming that you can’t have some combination of the two – I believe that’s the most effective. You’re right, though – someone who is only cuddly and nice will be consistently run over, and even I (someone who appreciates nice people) am repulsed by weakness.
It is possible to be kind by default and ruthless when appropriate. That’s what I strive for. In some ways it’s actually the easiest and most rewarding way to go – I’m respected by the people I admire and whose opinions matter to me, and I get to run over the people who deserve it.
April 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM #684877briansd1
Guest[quote=bearishgurl]Just curious sreeb, did your Mission Village house have a knotty pine kitchen and another pine room divider with floor-to-ceiling square holes in it between your 3 x 3 ft front entrance and the living room (no foyer)?
The “square holes” were to put your souvenirs, glass figurines and other “knick-knacks” in :=)[/quote]
I think that knotty pine is a subversion of the clean California ranch house. I’d be the first to rip it out. It was an attempt to add some traditional “country” features to modern houses.
I was talking to builders and learned that design of new spec houses should always be contemporary enough to look like a change and improvement. But houses should always appeal to that imaginary 50 yo buyer (that demographic has the most desire and ability to pay).
April 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM #684927briansd1
Guest[quote=bearishgurl]Just curious sreeb, did your Mission Village house have a knotty pine kitchen and another pine room divider with floor-to-ceiling square holes in it between your 3 x 3 ft front entrance and the living room (no foyer)?
The “square holes” were to put your souvenirs, glass figurines and other “knick-knacks” in :=)[/quote]
I think that knotty pine is a subversion of the clean California ranch house. I’d be the first to rip it out. It was an attempt to add some traditional “country” features to modern houses.
I was talking to builders and learned that design of new spec houses should always be contemporary enough to look like a change and improvement. But houses should always appeal to that imaginary 50 yo buyer (that demographic has the most desire and ability to pay).
April 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM #685554briansd1
Guest[quote=bearishgurl]Just curious sreeb, did your Mission Village house have a knotty pine kitchen and another pine room divider with floor-to-ceiling square holes in it between your 3 x 3 ft front entrance and the living room (no foyer)?
The “square holes” were to put your souvenirs, glass figurines and other “knick-knacks” in :=)[/quote]
I think that knotty pine is a subversion of the clean California ranch house. I’d be the first to rip it out. It was an attempt to add some traditional “country” features to modern houses.
I was talking to builders and learned that design of new spec houses should always be contemporary enough to look like a change and improvement. But houses should always appeal to that imaginary 50 yo buyer (that demographic has the most desire and ability to pay).
April 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM #685697briansd1
Guest[quote=bearishgurl]Just curious sreeb, did your Mission Village house have a knotty pine kitchen and another pine room divider with floor-to-ceiling square holes in it between your 3 x 3 ft front entrance and the living room (no foyer)?
The “square holes” were to put your souvenirs, glass figurines and other “knick-knacks” in :=)[/quote]
I think that knotty pine is a subversion of the clean California ranch house. I’d be the first to rip it out. It was an attempt to add some traditional “country” features to modern houses.
I was talking to builders and learned that design of new spec houses should always be contemporary enough to look like a change and improvement. But houses should always appeal to that imaginary 50 yo buyer (that demographic has the most desire and ability to pay).
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