Shadow inventory finally being released ?

[SK in CV]

[quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.

[briansd1]

To be sure our standard of living has increased but our quality of life maybe the same or worse. Often times, doing things just because we can does not result in better quality of life.

In real estate, we build more ornate buildings. Compare the strip malls of the 1970s vs those of today (the ones that have not yet been remodeled). The utility is the same, but costs of the new buildings are greater.

IMHO, more ready access to credit allowed us to accelerate consumption and achieve more instant gratification. The debts we accumulated are what make use feel less secure.

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly. America was far richer than the rest of the world.

The decade after the fall of the Soviet Union was also an anomaly. We were the only superpower so our will was uncontested.

Now we are facing competition from around the world. The American financial model was badly shaken with the 2008 financial crisis.

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.

[briansd1]

To be sure our standard of living has increased but our quality of life maybe the same or worse. Often times, doing things just because we can does not result in better quality of life.

In real estate, we build more ornate buildings. Compare the strip malls of the 1970s vs those of today (the ones that have not yet been remodeled). The utility is the same, but costs of the new buildings are greater.

IMHO, more ready access to credit allowed us to accelerate consumption and achieve more instant gratification. The debts we accumulated are what make use feel less secure.

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly. America was far richer than the rest of the world.

The decade after the fall of the Soviet Union was also an anomaly. We were the only superpower so our will was uncontested.

Now we are facing competition from around the world. The American financial model was badly shaken with the 2008 financial crisis.

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.

[briansd1]

To be sure our standard of living has increased but our quality of life maybe the same or worse. Often times, doing things just because we can does not result in better quality of life.

In real estate, we build more ornate buildings. Compare the strip malls of the 1970s vs those of today (the ones that have not yet been remodeled). The utility is the same, but costs of the new buildings are greater.

IMHO, more ready access to credit allowed us to accelerate consumption and achieve more instant gratification. The debts we accumulated are what make use feel less secure.

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly. America was far richer than the rest of the world.

The decade after the fall of the Soviet Union was also an anomaly. We were the only superpower so our will was uncontested.

Now we are facing competition from around the world. The American financial model was badly shaken with the 2008 financial crisis.

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.

[briansd1]

To be sure our standard of living has increased but our quality of life maybe the same or worse. Often times, doing things just because we can does not result in better quality of life.

In real estate, we build more ornate buildings. Compare the strip malls of the 1970s vs those of today (the ones that have not yet been remodeled). The utility is the same, but costs of the new buildings are greater.

IMHO, more ready access to credit allowed us to accelerate consumption and achieve more instant gratification. The debts we accumulated are what make use feel less secure.

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly. America was far richer than the rest of the world.

The decade after the fall of the Soviet Union was also an anomaly. We were the only superpower so our will was uncontested.

Now we are facing competition from around the world. The American financial model was badly shaken with the 2008 financial crisis.

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.

[briansd1]

To be sure our standard of living has increased but our quality of life maybe the same or worse. Often times, doing things just because we can does not result in better quality of life.

In real estate, we build more ornate buildings. Compare the strip malls of the 1970s vs those of today (the ones that have not yet been remodeled). The utility is the same, but costs of the new buildings are greater.

IMHO, more ready access to credit allowed us to accelerate consumption and achieve more instant gratification. The debts we accumulated are what make use feel less secure.

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly. America was far richer than the rest of the world.

The decade after the fall of the Soviet Union was also an anomaly. We were the only superpower so our will was uncontested.

Now we are facing competition from around the world. The American financial model was badly shaken with the 2008 financial crisis.

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.

[davelj]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.[/quote]

I think you’re including books and supplies for SD State (just to clarify) – here are the numbers for 2010/2011:

http://www.howtogetin.com/colleges/san-diego-state-university/expenses.php

You’re right about UCSD – I was reading the wrong column (thanks for pointing that out) – it’s $11,330 for in-state.

http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergrad-20102011.html

[davelj]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.[/quote]

I think you’re including books and supplies for SD State (just to clarify) – here are the numbers for 2010/2011:

http://www.howtogetin.com/colleges/san-diego-state-university/expenses.php

You’re right about UCSD – I was reading the wrong column (thanks for pointing that out) – it’s $11,330 for in-state.

http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergrad-20102011.html

[davelj]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.[/quote]

I think you’re including books and supplies for SD State (just to clarify) – here are the numbers for 2010/2011:

http://www.howtogetin.com/colleges/san-diego-state-university/expenses.php

You’re right about UCSD – I was reading the wrong column (thanks for pointing that out) – it’s $11,330 for in-state.

http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergrad-20102011.html

[davelj]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.[/quote]

I think you’re including books and supplies for SD State (just to clarify) – here are the numbers for 2010/2011:

http://www.howtogetin.com/colleges/san-diego-state-university/expenses.php

You’re right about UCSD – I was reading the wrong column (thanks for pointing that out) – it’s $11,330 for in-state.

http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergrad-20102011.html

[davelj]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=davelj] In-state tuition at SD State, for example, is $4,200/year (which is quite reasonable). ….And I firmly believe that you get out of a college education what you put into it – the real *learning* that takes place at UCSD ($22,000/year in-state tuition) probably isn’t materially different from that which takes place at SD State. [/quote]

Not that it would likely change your conclusion any, but then numbers are about $6,000 for in-state tuition and fees at SDSU for the current academic year and about $11,500 for UCSD.

SDSU is still a great deal. The UC’s are no longer on the low side of public universities, but still a great deal for the quality of education.[/quote]

I think you’re including books and supplies for SD State (just to clarify) – here are the numbers for 2010/2011:

http://www.howtogetin.com/colleges/san-diego-state-university/expenses.php

You’re right about UCSD – I was reading the wrong column (thanks for pointing that out) – it’s $11,330 for in-state.

http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergrad-20102011.html

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly.

[snip]

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.[/quote]

This is really the crux of my point. It is likely that this “romanticized past” (or in my terms, “Halcyon Days”) was the anomaly… not our current situation.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly.

[snip]

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.[/quote]

This is really the crux of my point. It is likely that this “romanticized past” (or in my terms, “Halcyon Days”) was the anomaly… not our current situation.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly.

[snip]

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.[/quote]

This is really the crux of my point. It is likely that this “romanticized past” (or in my terms, “Halcyon Days”) was the anomaly… not our current situation.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]

The period from 1945 to about 1975 was an anomaly.

[snip]

Immigration is more prevalent and global workforce mobility is the new norm. So the “natives” tend to long for a romanticized past.[/quote]

This is really the crux of my point. It is likely that this “romanticized past” (or in my terms, “Halcyon Days”) was the anomaly… not our current situation.

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