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January 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM #142369January 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM #142086nostradamusParticipant
Bugs I feel kinda the same way, but am an atheist through and through. My parents let me explore all kinds of religions growing up and didn’t encourage or discourage any. One opinion I formed in this exploration is that religion is built on the arrogance of mankind and helps him feel divine. We need to feel special and have meaning or purpose in life.
Many of the mainstream religions even go so far as saying that we were created in the image of god. Imagine! They see themselves as mini-me GODS running around! This explains the sense of entitlement, righteousness, and superiority the pious tend to have. These religions, to me, are more human-worship than true spiritualism.
I don’t think religion causes violence. I think we are violent without it and religion is one of many excuses to unleash our inner barbarity. If we’re not fighting about religion it’s about color or origin or race or land or language or resources or government. Religion is a good way to amass an army, though.
January 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM #142312nostradamusParticipantBugs I feel kinda the same way, but am an atheist through and through. My parents let me explore all kinds of religions growing up and didn’t encourage or discourage any. One opinion I formed in this exploration is that religion is built on the arrogance of mankind and helps him feel divine. We need to feel special and have meaning or purpose in life.
Many of the mainstream religions even go so far as saying that we were created in the image of god. Imagine! They see themselves as mini-me GODS running around! This explains the sense of entitlement, righteousness, and superiority the pious tend to have. These religions, to me, are more human-worship than true spiritualism.
I don’t think religion causes violence. I think we are violent without it and religion is one of many excuses to unleash our inner barbarity. If we’re not fighting about religion it’s about color or origin or race or land or language or resources or government. Religion is a good way to amass an army, though.
January 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM #142325nostradamusParticipantBugs I feel kinda the same way, but am an atheist through and through. My parents let me explore all kinds of religions growing up and didn’t encourage or discourage any. One opinion I formed in this exploration is that religion is built on the arrogance of mankind and helps him feel divine. We need to feel special and have meaning or purpose in life.
Many of the mainstream religions even go so far as saying that we were created in the image of god. Imagine! They see themselves as mini-me GODS running around! This explains the sense of entitlement, righteousness, and superiority the pious tend to have. These religions, to me, are more human-worship than true spiritualism.
I don’t think religion causes violence. I think we are violent without it and religion is one of many excuses to unleash our inner barbarity. If we’re not fighting about religion it’s about color or origin or race or land or language or resources or government. Religion is a good way to amass an army, though.
January 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM #142353nostradamusParticipantBugs I feel kinda the same way, but am an atheist through and through. My parents let me explore all kinds of religions growing up and didn’t encourage or discourage any. One opinion I formed in this exploration is that religion is built on the arrogance of mankind and helps him feel divine. We need to feel special and have meaning or purpose in life.
Many of the mainstream religions even go so far as saying that we were created in the image of god. Imagine! They see themselves as mini-me GODS running around! This explains the sense of entitlement, righteousness, and superiority the pious tend to have. These religions, to me, are more human-worship than true spiritualism.
I don’t think religion causes violence. I think we are violent without it and religion is one of many excuses to unleash our inner barbarity. If we’re not fighting about religion it’s about color or origin or race or land or language or resources or government. Religion is a good way to amass an army, though.
January 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM #142414nostradamusParticipantBugs I feel kinda the same way, but am an atheist through and through. My parents let me explore all kinds of religions growing up and didn’t encourage or discourage any. One opinion I formed in this exploration is that religion is built on the arrogance of mankind and helps him feel divine. We need to feel special and have meaning or purpose in life.
Many of the mainstream religions even go so far as saying that we were created in the image of god. Imagine! They see themselves as mini-me GODS running around! This explains the sense of entitlement, righteousness, and superiority the pious tend to have. These religions, to me, are more human-worship than true spiritualism.
I don’t think religion causes violence. I think we are violent without it and religion is one of many excuses to unleash our inner barbarity. If we’re not fighting about religion it’s about color or origin or race or land or language or resources or government. Religion is a good way to amass an army, though.
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM #142311raptorduckParticipantAh what the hell (opps, I realize that word can stir religious debate), I will put in my unsolicited 2 cent.
I am religious, but not fanatically so. I have been fortunate enough to study many religions, including Scientology. As with just about every religion I have ever studied, there are some wise teachings in Scientology. And, there are some “questionable” teachings. Ok, nuff said about that.
What I am put off by with any religion is its members pushing down your throat as the law, every teaching they preach, and then putting down those outside of the circle that is that religion (the “faithful”). I definately got that sense from Scientology. You really don’t move up the ladder, unless you buy into the program and if you don’t buy into the program, well then you are not in the circle.
This is not that different from many religions, but on the more extreme side of median, in my experience. That said, most religions have something useful to teach us and this one is no different. Just not for me, but I learned some useful stuff nonetheless.
I rebelled against the religion I was raised in; hence my multidecade exploration of other religions. I have since come back to my original religion. Not because I believe in its teachings more than others, but because I decided I did not have have to believe all its teachings to be part of a community of people, who share something. It is that community aspect that draws me to religion now and I find the one I am part of to be more tolerant of other religions than most.
Despite learning something useful from Scientology, I was turned off by it overall. But I have no opposition to it or Tom Cruise other actors being part of that world. He is still my favorite actor just like Michael Jackson is still my favorite singer. They may have lost their minds, but talent is talent.
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM #142538raptorduckParticipantAh what the hell (opps, I realize that word can stir religious debate), I will put in my unsolicited 2 cent.
I am religious, but not fanatically so. I have been fortunate enough to study many religions, including Scientology. As with just about every religion I have ever studied, there are some wise teachings in Scientology. And, there are some “questionable” teachings. Ok, nuff said about that.
What I am put off by with any religion is its members pushing down your throat as the law, every teaching they preach, and then putting down those outside of the circle that is that religion (the “faithful”). I definately got that sense from Scientology. You really don’t move up the ladder, unless you buy into the program and if you don’t buy into the program, well then you are not in the circle.
This is not that different from many religions, but on the more extreme side of median, in my experience. That said, most religions have something useful to teach us and this one is no different. Just not for me, but I learned some useful stuff nonetheless.
I rebelled against the religion I was raised in; hence my multidecade exploration of other religions. I have since come back to my original religion. Not because I believe in its teachings more than others, but because I decided I did not have have to believe all its teachings to be part of a community of people, who share something. It is that community aspect that draws me to religion now and I find the one I am part of to be more tolerant of other religions than most.
Despite learning something useful from Scientology, I was turned off by it overall. But I have no opposition to it or Tom Cruise other actors being part of that world. He is still my favorite actor just like Michael Jackson is still my favorite singer. They may have lost their minds, but talent is talent.
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM #142551raptorduckParticipantAh what the hell (opps, I realize that word can stir religious debate), I will put in my unsolicited 2 cent.
I am religious, but not fanatically so. I have been fortunate enough to study many religions, including Scientology. As with just about every religion I have ever studied, there are some wise teachings in Scientology. And, there are some “questionable” teachings. Ok, nuff said about that.
What I am put off by with any religion is its members pushing down your throat as the law, every teaching they preach, and then putting down those outside of the circle that is that religion (the “faithful”). I definately got that sense from Scientology. You really don’t move up the ladder, unless you buy into the program and if you don’t buy into the program, well then you are not in the circle.
This is not that different from many religions, but on the more extreme side of median, in my experience. That said, most religions have something useful to teach us and this one is no different. Just not for me, but I learned some useful stuff nonetheless.
I rebelled against the religion I was raised in; hence my multidecade exploration of other religions. I have since come back to my original religion. Not because I believe in its teachings more than others, but because I decided I did not have have to believe all its teachings to be part of a community of people, who share something. It is that community aspect that draws me to religion now and I find the one I am part of to be more tolerant of other religions than most.
Despite learning something useful from Scientology, I was turned off by it overall. But I have no opposition to it or Tom Cruise other actors being part of that world. He is still my favorite actor just like Michael Jackson is still my favorite singer. They may have lost their minds, but talent is talent.
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM #142576raptorduckParticipantAh what the hell (opps, I realize that word can stir religious debate), I will put in my unsolicited 2 cent.
I am religious, but not fanatically so. I have been fortunate enough to study many religions, including Scientology. As with just about every religion I have ever studied, there are some wise teachings in Scientology. And, there are some “questionable” teachings. Ok, nuff said about that.
What I am put off by with any religion is its members pushing down your throat as the law, every teaching they preach, and then putting down those outside of the circle that is that religion (the “faithful”). I definately got that sense from Scientology. You really don’t move up the ladder, unless you buy into the program and if you don’t buy into the program, well then you are not in the circle.
This is not that different from many religions, but on the more extreme side of median, in my experience. That said, most religions have something useful to teach us and this one is no different. Just not for me, but I learned some useful stuff nonetheless.
I rebelled against the religion I was raised in; hence my multidecade exploration of other religions. I have since come back to my original religion. Not because I believe in its teachings more than others, but because I decided I did not have have to believe all its teachings to be part of a community of people, who share something. It is that community aspect that draws me to religion now and I find the one I am part of to be more tolerant of other religions than most.
Despite learning something useful from Scientology, I was turned off by it overall. But I have no opposition to it or Tom Cruise other actors being part of that world. He is still my favorite actor just like Michael Jackson is still my favorite singer. They may have lost their minds, but talent is talent.
January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM #142641raptorduckParticipantAh what the hell (opps, I realize that word can stir religious debate), I will put in my unsolicited 2 cent.
I am religious, but not fanatically so. I have been fortunate enough to study many religions, including Scientology. As with just about every religion I have ever studied, there are some wise teachings in Scientology. And, there are some “questionable” teachings. Ok, nuff said about that.
What I am put off by with any religion is its members pushing down your throat as the law, every teaching they preach, and then putting down those outside of the circle that is that religion (the “faithful”). I definately got that sense from Scientology. You really don’t move up the ladder, unless you buy into the program and if you don’t buy into the program, well then you are not in the circle.
This is not that different from many religions, but on the more extreme side of median, in my experience. That said, most religions have something useful to teach us and this one is no different. Just not for me, but I learned some useful stuff nonetheless.
I rebelled against the religion I was raised in; hence my multidecade exploration of other religions. I have since come back to my original religion. Not because I believe in its teachings more than others, but because I decided I did not have have to believe all its teachings to be part of a community of people, who share something. It is that community aspect that draws me to religion now and I find the one I am part of to be more tolerant of other religions than most.
Despite learning something useful from Scientology, I was turned off by it overall. But I have no opposition to it or Tom Cruise other actors being part of that world. He is still my favorite actor just like Michael Jackson is still my favorite singer. They may have lost their minds, but talent is talent.
January 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM #142492OC BurnsParticipantWar has recently been declared on Scientology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8
This isn’t a gag or a joke, either. This is all-out cyber war.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/01/23/anonymous-releases-statements-outlining-war-on-scientology/
Anonymous is Legion.
Good luck, dudes….
January 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM #142719OC BurnsParticipantWar has recently been declared on Scientology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8
This isn’t a gag or a joke, either. This is all-out cyber war.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/01/23/anonymous-releases-statements-outlining-war-on-scientology/
Anonymous is Legion.
Good luck, dudes….
January 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM #142729OC BurnsParticipantWar has recently been declared on Scientology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8
This isn’t a gag or a joke, either. This is all-out cyber war.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/01/23/anonymous-releases-statements-outlining-war-on-scientology/
Anonymous is Legion.
Good luck, dudes….
January 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM #142754OC BurnsParticipantWar has recently been declared on Scientology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8
This isn’t a gag or a joke, either. This is all-out cyber war.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/01/23/anonymous-releases-statements-outlining-war-on-scientology/
Anonymous is Legion.
Good luck, dudes….
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