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June 7, 2009 at 1:03 PM #412567June 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM #411876
Rt.66
ParticipantI was speaking with a friend who’s kid with special edecuational needs is in 11th grade and needs to get signed-up with the Regional Center for help in early adulthood. The director of their school district says that the SD Regional Center is refusing every new applicant due to budget woes.
$5 billion for illegal freebies has got to stay.
Painful cuts in needed services to disabled CITIZENS = reasonable cuts?
June 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM #412112ParticipantI was speaking with a friend who’s kid with special edecuational needs is in 11th grade and needs to get signed-up with the Regional Center for help in early adulthood. The director of their school district says that the SD Regional Center is refusing every new applicant due to budget woes.
$5 billion for illegal freebies has got to stay.
Painful cuts in needed services to disabled CITIZENS = reasonable cuts?
June 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM #412358ParticipantI was speaking with a friend who’s kid with special edecuational needs is in 11th grade and needs to get signed-up with the Regional Center for help in early adulthood. The director of their school district says that the SD Regional Center is refusing every new applicant due to budget woes.
$5 billion for illegal freebies has got to stay.
Painful cuts in needed services to disabled CITIZENS = reasonable cuts?
June 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM #412425ParticipantI was speaking with a friend who’s kid with special edecuational needs is in 11th grade and needs to get signed-up with the Regional Center for help in early adulthood. The director of their school district says that the SD Regional Center is refusing every new applicant due to budget woes.
$5 billion for illegal freebies has got to stay.
Painful cuts in needed services to disabled CITIZENS = reasonable cuts?
June 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM #412577ParticipantI was speaking with a friend who’s kid with special edecuational needs is in 11th grade and needs to get signed-up with the Regional Center for help in early adulthood. The director of their school district says that the SD Regional Center is refusing every new applicant due to budget woes.
$5 billion for illegal freebies has got to stay.
Painful cuts in needed services to disabled CITIZENS = reasonable cuts?
June 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM #411887peterb
ParticipantPolitician and business people realize that in order to keep the scam going, they need population growth. Locals arent making enough new people. So they conclude we need to bring more in. America’s been doing this for a couple of hundred years. Irish, Italian, Asian and now Central American/Mexican.
Trouble is, the USA didnt have nearly the social welfare programs and taxation back in the day compared to now. So when the business cycle dips, it cost lots-o-money.
June 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM #412125ParticipantPolitician and business people realize that in order to keep the scam going, they need population growth. Locals arent making enough new people. So they conclude we need to bring more in. America’s been doing this for a couple of hundred years. Irish, Italian, Asian and now Central American/Mexican.
Trouble is, the USA didnt have nearly the social welfare programs and taxation back in the day compared to now. So when the business cycle dips, it cost lots-o-money.
June 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM #412371ParticipantPolitician and business people realize that in order to keep the scam going, they need population growth. Locals arent making enough new people. So they conclude we need to bring more in. America’s been doing this for a couple of hundred years. Irish, Italian, Asian and now Central American/Mexican.
Trouble is, the USA didnt have nearly the social welfare programs and taxation back in the day compared to now. So when the business cycle dips, it cost lots-o-money.
June 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM #412435ParticipantPolitician and business people realize that in order to keep the scam going, they need population growth. Locals arent making enough new people. So they conclude we need to bring more in. America’s been doing this for a couple of hundred years. Irish, Italian, Asian and now Central American/Mexican.
Trouble is, the USA didnt have nearly the social welfare programs and taxation back in the day compared to now. So when the business cycle dips, it cost lots-o-money.
June 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM #412588ParticipantPolitician and business people realize that in order to keep the scam going, they need population growth. Locals arent making enough new people. So they conclude we need to bring more in. America’s been doing this for a couple of hundred years. Irish, Italian, Asian and now Central American/Mexican.
Trouble is, the USA didnt have nearly the social welfare programs and taxation back in the day compared to now. So when the business cycle dips, it cost lots-o-money.
June 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM #411896NotCranky
Participant[quote=Rt.66]I won’t comment on illegals because I have not walked a mile in their shoes.
I can’t help but wonder about the logic of stating $5 billion spent giving freebies to people who are not citizens is peanuts YET laying off school teachers who are WORKING (not getting freebies) for the money they cost the state and who educate our children, is sound cost cutting???…?
Wow, its hard to wrap your head around that kind of logic.[/quote]
Teachers are not the most fragile element of our society and are also not the sole source of our children’s sustenance in a recession.We can pick up the slack and it is known that we will. I am the last to want to see teachers kicked to the curb and programs cut.
It is nuts however, to think that immigrants workers are not a large and fragile complementary component of our society. Kicking them too hard sends them right past the curb and into the gutter and we will not have such a complimentary experience with the consequences of that.
If changes are to be made with this number of vulnerable people, they should be made gradually and in good measure to possible economic,public health, crime, and humanitarian consequences. Despite how messed up everything seems, I believe that behind the limited view we have into politics and business there is serious consideration of these complex issues.
June 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM #412134Participant[quote=Rt.66]I won’t comment on illegals because I have not walked a mile in their shoes.
I can’t help but wonder about the logic of stating $5 billion spent giving freebies to people who are not citizens is peanuts YET laying off school teachers who are WORKING (not getting freebies) for the money they cost the state and who educate our children, is sound cost cutting???…?
Wow, its hard to wrap your head around that kind of logic.[/quote]
Teachers are not the most fragile element of our society and are also not the sole source of our children’s sustenance in a recession.We can pick up the slack and it is known that we will. I am the last to want to see teachers kicked to the curb and programs cut.
It is nuts however, to think that immigrants workers are not a large and fragile complementary component of our society. Kicking them too hard sends them right past the curb and into the gutter and we will not have such a complimentary experience with the consequences of that.
If changes are to be made with this number of vulnerable people, they should be made gradually and in good measure to possible economic,public health, crime, and humanitarian consequences. Despite how messed up everything seems, I believe that behind the limited view we have into politics and business there is serious consideration of these complex issues.
June 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM #412381Participant[quote=Rt.66]I won’t comment on illegals because I have not walked a mile in their shoes.
I can’t help but wonder about the logic of stating $5 billion spent giving freebies to people who are not citizens is peanuts YET laying off school teachers who are WORKING (not getting freebies) for the money they cost the state and who educate our children, is sound cost cutting???…?
Wow, its hard to wrap your head around that kind of logic.[/quote]
Teachers are not the most fragile element of our society and are also not the sole source of our children’s sustenance in a recession.We can pick up the slack and it is known that we will. I am the last to want to see teachers kicked to the curb and programs cut.
It is nuts however, to think that immigrants workers are not a large and fragile complementary component of our society. Kicking them too hard sends them right past the curb and into the gutter and we will not have such a complimentary experience with the consequences of that.
If changes are to be made with this number of vulnerable people, they should be made gradually and in good measure to possible economic,public health, crime, and humanitarian consequences. Despite how messed up everything seems, I believe that behind the limited view we have into politics and business there is serious consideration of these complex issues.
June 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM #412445Participant[quote=Rt.66]I won’t comment on illegals because I have not walked a mile in their shoes.
I can’t help but wonder about the logic of stating $5 billion spent giving freebies to people who are not citizens is peanuts YET laying off school teachers who are WORKING (not getting freebies) for the money they cost the state and who educate our children, is sound cost cutting???…?
Wow, its hard to wrap your head around that kind of logic.[/quote]
Teachers are not the most fragile element of our society and are also not the sole source of our children’s sustenance in a recession.We can pick up the slack and it is known that we will. I am the last to want to see teachers kicked to the curb and programs cut.
It is nuts however, to think that immigrants workers are not a large and fragile complementary component of our society. Kicking them too hard sends them right past the curb and into the gutter and we will not have such a complimentary experience with the consequences of that.
If changes are to be made with this number of vulnerable people, they should be made gradually and in good measure to possible economic,public health, crime, and humanitarian consequences. Despite how messed up everything seems, I believe that behind the limited view we have into politics and business there is serious consideration of these complex issues.
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