Schwarzenegger backs state services to immigrants

[Ricechex]

Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately. [/quote]

How much does the STATE of Ca spend on defence? I kinda thought that was a federal thing. 🙂

[DWCAP]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately. [/quote]

How much does the STATE of Ca spend on defence? I kinda thought that was a federal thing. 🙂

[DWCAP]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately. [/quote]

How much does the STATE of Ca spend on defence? I kinda thought that was a federal thing. 🙂

[DWCAP]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately. [/quote]

How much does the STATE of Ca spend on defence? I kinda thought that was a federal thing. 🙂

[DWCAP]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately. [/quote]

How much does the STATE of Ca spend on defence? I kinda thought that was a federal thing. 🙂

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Russell]It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.[/quote]

Russel,

Can you provide some empirical data on how illegal immigrants contribute to our infrastructure and agriculture to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars.

The agricultural argument is a fallacy of false cause argument. Look at the large numbers of illegals in California cities and prisons. Are these the employees California’s agricultural sector are relying upon?

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Russell]It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.[/quote]

Russel,

Can you provide some empirical data on how illegal immigrants contribute to our infrastructure and agriculture to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars.

The agricultural argument is a fallacy of false cause argument. Look at the large numbers of illegals in California cities and prisons. Are these the employees California’s agricultural sector are relying upon?

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Russell]It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.[/quote]

Russel,

Can you provide some empirical data on how illegal immigrants contribute to our infrastructure and agriculture to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars.

The agricultural argument is a fallacy of false cause argument. Look at the large numbers of illegals in California cities and prisons. Are these the employees California’s agricultural sector are relying upon?

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Russell]It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.[/quote]

Russel,

Can you provide some empirical data on how illegal immigrants contribute to our infrastructure and agriculture to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars.

The agricultural argument is a fallacy of false cause argument. Look at the large numbers of illegals in California cities and prisons. Are these the employees California’s agricultural sector are relying upon?

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Russell]It sounds like Arnold is saying that as a percentage of the budget, services to illegal immigrants is not causing the impact on the deficit worthy of the scapegoating that immigrants gets given their contribution to our infrastructure and agriculture.[/quote]

Russel,

Can you provide some empirical data on how illegal immigrants contribute to our infrastructure and agriculture to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars.

The agricultural argument is a fallacy of false cause argument. Look at the large numbers of illegals in California cities and prisons. Are these the employees California’s agricultural sector are relying upon?

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.[/quote]

Why try and justify the state expenditure of funds on illegal immigrants by tying it to the federal expenditure of funds for national defense? Your argument is baseless. Federal funds are recycled through the economy when used for defense for the most part (I am aware of the bottomless pit which is the middle east). Illegal immigrants by in large and economic free riders.

Why can’t the 4 to 5 billion of state funds being used to “service” the illegal population be debated in an upfront and honest manner as a question of state spending rather then a social issue or a moral issue to provide for those in which we are not obligated to provide for.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.[/quote]

Why try and justify the state expenditure of funds on illegal immigrants by tying it to the federal expenditure of funds for national defense? Your argument is baseless. Federal funds are recycled through the economy when used for defense for the most part (I am aware of the bottomless pit which is the middle east). Illegal immigrants by in large and economic free riders.

Why can’t the 4 to 5 billion of state funds being used to “service” the illegal population be debated in an upfront and honest manner as a question of state spending rather then a social issue or a moral issue to provide for those in which we are not obligated to provide for.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.[/quote]

Why try and justify the state expenditure of funds on illegal immigrants by tying it to the federal expenditure of funds for national defense? Your argument is baseless. Federal funds are recycled through the economy when used for defense for the most part (I am aware of the bottomless pit which is the middle east). Illegal immigrants by in large and economic free riders.

Why can’t the 4 to 5 billion of state funds being used to “service” the illegal population be debated in an upfront and honest manner as a question of state spending rather then a social issue or a moral issue to provide for those in which we are not obligated to provide for.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=Ricechex]Bashing illegals is like bashing welfare recipients. Or like bashing the Fire Chief that has a good pension and other government workers. Not saying it is right or wrong, BUT, this is small potatoes and takes a very little slice of the pie. The biggest chunk of money is spent on Defense. Yeah, and many of us make our bread and butter in this City because of Defense spending, so perhaps we do not wish to look at this matter. OH, and I am not talking about spending on our sailors, those guys make a pittance unfortunately.[/quote]

Why try and justify the state expenditure of funds on illegal immigrants by tying it to the federal expenditure of funds for national defense? Your argument is baseless. Federal funds are recycled through the economy when used for defense for the most part (I am aware of the bottomless pit which is the middle east). Illegal immigrants by in large and economic free riders.

Why can’t the 4 to 5 billion of state funds being used to “service” the illegal population be debated in an upfront and honest manner as a question of state spending rather then a social issue or a moral issue to provide for those in which we are not obligated to provide for.

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