Schools & School districts

[Coronita]

Based on how I grew up, there was simply no replacement for parents involvement in their kid’s education. There were a bunch of classmates who had wealthy parents that sent them to the best schools (private) and did all the enrichment in the world. While it helped, it didn’t compare to kids who had parents involved and helping them along the way (especially early on).
“Outsourcing” one kid’s education/learning in the early ages isn’t just as effective, regardless of what quality “outsourcer” one will find.

[fredo4]

[quote=CBad]
Personally I don’t think GATE is that big of a deal. [/quote]

Not sure about the situation here, but in L.A. public schools, all of what would a generation ago be considered “average and above” students are stuck in GATE. Regular classes are so dumbed down it’s ridiculous.

I’d rather live in a less expensive area and send my kids to a Catholic K-12 school with nice kids and 98% college acceptance rate than pay the extra 200-500K for the same tract house in a “better” school district. No matter how good the district, in a public high school you end up with some gang bangers and the expectations are much lower.

[fredo4]

[quote=CBad]
Personally I don’t think GATE is that big of a deal. [/quote]

Not sure about the situation here, but in L.A. public schools, all of what would a generation ago be considered “average and above” students are stuck in GATE. Regular classes are so dumbed down it’s ridiculous.

I’d rather live in a less expensive area and send my kids to a Catholic K-12 school with nice kids and 98% college acceptance rate than pay the extra 200-500K for the same tract house in a “better” school district. No matter how good the district, in a public high school you end up with some gang bangers and the expectations are much lower.

[fredo4]

[quote=CBad]
Personally I don’t think GATE is that big of a deal. [/quote]

Not sure about the situation here, but in L.A. public schools, all of what would a generation ago be considered “average and above” students are stuck in GATE. Regular classes are so dumbed down it’s ridiculous.

I’d rather live in a less expensive area and send my kids to a Catholic K-12 school with nice kids and 98% college acceptance rate than pay the extra 200-500K for the same tract house in a “better” school district. No matter how good the district, in a public high school you end up with some gang bangers and the expectations are much lower.

[fredo4]

[quote=CBad]
Personally I don’t think GATE is that big of a deal. [/quote]

Not sure about the situation here, but in L.A. public schools, all of what would a generation ago be considered “average and above” students are stuck in GATE. Regular classes are so dumbed down it’s ridiculous.

I’d rather live in a less expensive area and send my kids to a Catholic K-12 school with nice kids and 98% college acceptance rate than pay the extra 200-500K for the same tract house in a “better” school district. No matter how good the district, in a public high school you end up with some gang bangers and the expectations are much lower.

[fredo4]

[quote=CBad]
Personally I don’t think GATE is that big of a deal. [/quote]

Not sure about the situation here, but in L.A. public schools, all of what would a generation ago be considered “average and above” students are stuck in GATE. Regular classes are so dumbed down it’s ridiculous.

I’d rather live in a less expensive area and send my kids to a Catholic K-12 school with nice kids and 98% college acceptance rate than pay the extra 200-500K for the same tract house in a “better” school district. No matter how good the district, in a public high school you end up with some gang bangers and the expectations are much lower.

[Oni Koroshi]

I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.

The real benefit of the advanced programs in PUSD were when I went to middle school. In 6th grade, they enrolled me into the pre-algebra math class. This set me on my way to finish two years of AP calculus by the time I graduated high school.

[Oni Koroshi]

I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.

The real benefit of the advanced programs in PUSD were when I went to middle school. In 6th grade, they enrolled me into the pre-algebra math class. This set me on my way to finish two years of AP calculus by the time I graduated high school.

[Oni Koroshi]

I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.

The real benefit of the advanced programs in PUSD were when I went to middle school. In 6th grade, they enrolled me into the pre-algebra math class. This set me on my way to finish two years of AP calculus by the time I graduated high school.

[Oni Koroshi]

I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.

The real benefit of the advanced programs in PUSD were when I went to middle school. In 6th grade, they enrolled me into the pre-algebra math class. This set me on my way to finish two years of AP calculus by the time I graduated high school.

[Oni Koroshi]

I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.

The real benefit of the advanced programs in PUSD were when I went to middle school. In 6th grade, they enrolled me into the pre-algebra math class. This set me on my way to finish two years of AP calculus by the time I graduated high school.

[UCGal]

[quote=propertysearchaddiction]My son attended pre-school at All Saints in UC and I was amazed at all the kids Curie sent back each year because they were not “ready for kindergarten”. IMHO Curie seemed to be a little obsessive about levels and being the best. Some of the parents seemed a little stressed.

If you are sending your kids to Curie and you are supplementing stuff after school. I think your kids will naturally be above the curve.
[/quote]

You’re right about Curie being obsessive. When we went to K orientation, the message was loud and clear “Hold your kid back an extra year.” They freaked out some of the parents about how hard transition to K was going to be. It was kind of like they were encouraging academic red-shirting.

[quote=flu]Based on how I grew up, there was simply no replacement for parents involvement in their kid’s education. [/quote]

I couldn’t agree more.

[quote=Oni Koroshi]I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.
[/quote]

That would bug me. My experience, 40 years ago, at San Diego Unified, was they clustered the kids, so each class had some percentage of GATE kids – no one was pulled out. And Seminar kids (back then called “I.S.”) were in their own class, in homogenious classes. No one was pulled out, but they had to go to a different school.

From what I’m reading – that seems to still be the model for SDUSD. I’d have very mixed/bad feelings about my sons getting pulled out of their regular class. Too much potential for stigma.

Hey sdr – are you going to the meeting on June 3rd for parents of newly identified kids?

[UCGal]

[quote=propertysearchaddiction]My son attended pre-school at All Saints in UC and I was amazed at all the kids Curie sent back each year because they were not “ready for kindergarten”. IMHO Curie seemed to be a little obsessive about levels and being the best. Some of the parents seemed a little stressed.

If you are sending your kids to Curie and you are supplementing stuff after school. I think your kids will naturally be above the curve.
[/quote]

You’re right about Curie being obsessive. When we went to K orientation, the message was loud and clear “Hold your kid back an extra year.” They freaked out some of the parents about how hard transition to K was going to be. It was kind of like they were encouraging academic red-shirting.

[quote=flu]Based on how I grew up, there was simply no replacement for parents involvement in their kid’s education. [/quote]

I couldn’t agree more.

[quote=Oni Koroshi]I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.
[/quote]

That would bug me. My experience, 40 years ago, at San Diego Unified, was they clustered the kids, so each class had some percentage of GATE kids – no one was pulled out. And Seminar kids (back then called “I.S.”) were in their own class, in homogenious classes. No one was pulled out, but they had to go to a different school.

From what I’m reading – that seems to still be the model for SDUSD. I’d have very mixed/bad feelings about my sons getting pulled out of their regular class. Too much potential for stigma.

Hey sdr – are you going to the meeting on June 3rd for parents of newly identified kids?

[UCGal]

[quote=propertysearchaddiction]My son attended pre-school at All Saints in UC and I was amazed at all the kids Curie sent back each year because they were not “ready for kindergarten”. IMHO Curie seemed to be a little obsessive about levels and being the best. Some of the parents seemed a little stressed.

If you are sending your kids to Curie and you are supplementing stuff after school. I think your kids will naturally be above the curve.
[/quote]

You’re right about Curie being obsessive. When we went to K orientation, the message was loud and clear “Hold your kid back an extra year.” They freaked out some of the parents about how hard transition to K was going to be. It was kind of like they were encouraging academic red-shirting.

[quote=flu]Based on how I grew up, there was simply no replacement for parents involvement in their kid’s education. [/quote]

I couldn’t agree more.

[quote=Oni Koroshi]I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.
[/quote]

That would bug me. My experience, 40 years ago, at San Diego Unified, was they clustered the kids, so each class had some percentage of GATE kids – no one was pulled out. And Seminar kids (back then called “I.S.”) were in their own class, in homogenious classes. No one was pulled out, but they had to go to a different school.

From what I’m reading – that seems to still be the model for SDUSD. I’d have very mixed/bad feelings about my sons getting pulled out of their regular class. Too much potential for stigma.

Hey sdr – are you going to the meeting on June 3rd for parents of newly identified kids?

[UCGal]

[quote=propertysearchaddiction]My son attended pre-school at All Saints in UC and I was amazed at all the kids Curie sent back each year because they were not “ready for kindergarten”. IMHO Curie seemed to be a little obsessive about levels and being the best. Some of the parents seemed a little stressed.

If you are sending your kids to Curie and you are supplementing stuff after school. I think your kids will naturally be above the curve.
[/quote]

You’re right about Curie being obsessive. When we went to K orientation, the message was loud and clear “Hold your kid back an extra year.” They freaked out some of the parents about how hard transition to K was going to be. It was kind of like they were encouraging academic red-shirting.

[quote=flu]Based on how I grew up, there was simply no replacement for parents involvement in their kid’s education. [/quote]

I couldn’t agree more.

[quote=Oni Koroshi]I was a product of the GATE system in the PUSD and I don’t think I really got anything extra out of it. I remember being pulled out of my normal class a couple of times a week to meet with a teacher and a group of 4 or 5 other GATE kids. Like CBad said, I didn’t like being singled out and having to leave while all my friends were doing something else.
[/quote]

That would bug me. My experience, 40 years ago, at San Diego Unified, was they clustered the kids, so each class had some percentage of GATE kids – no one was pulled out. And Seminar kids (back then called “I.S.”) were in their own class, in homogenious classes. No one was pulled out, but they had to go to a different school.

From what I’m reading – that seems to still be the model for SDUSD. I’d have very mixed/bad feelings about my sons getting pulled out of their regular class. Too much potential for stigma.

Hey sdr – are you going to the meeting on June 3rd for parents of newly identified kids?

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