Scaredy shopping for real estate

[FlyerInHi]

That wasn’t me. I am a very polite driver. I pull to the left to let people merge into the right. I anticipate what people will do and move out of the way.

I have to do long drives for real estate reasons. But I hate driving. I would be very happy with autonomous vehicles.

I am with you scaredy. aggressive drivers will have their comeuppance.

[temeculaguy]

I may have misunderstood, I thought you wanted to sell your wine country house and retire to Idyllwild. If you just want a cabin, that’s a leisure decision like an RV or a boat. Do what makes you happy if you have the means it’s likely a better decision than either a boat or an RV.

Climbers and day trippers will barely sustain a business. 2,000 hikers a year doesn’t compare to your current digs. In fact you are missing out on not turning your place into a B&B once the kids move to college.

Temecula gets 2.7 million tourists a year. Napa/Sonoma gets 3.5 mil tourists a year. But 2.000 people hiked a spot in Idylwild? You are standing on a pile of hundred dollar bills and thinking of moving to a pile of pennies. I’m in a tract home but you are on land within the vineyards, there is opportunity right under your nose. I get it, you are a bit eccentric, but don’t for a minute think lots of other people want to spend their weekends volunteering as fire scouts. Good for you. Nobody gets rich rescuing cats, but my wife thinks that would be a great life. Luckily she has me to encourage her to keep her day job and she can have that as a hobby if she wants as long as it doesn’t involve the house. But it’s not an investment or a vocation, it’s a hobby/charity/volunteer opportunity.

Let it be your hobby, but you didn’t find gold. So buy a weekend home if you like but head to head, Temecula real estate will beat Idyllwild real estate over time for lots of reasons. I still think Arrowhead/Big Bear represent a better investment because it gets year round tourism, Idyllwild practically closes when it snows, it doesn’t capitalize on it like the other areas.

[burghMan]

[quote=temeculaguy]I may have misunderstood, I thought you wanted to sell your wine country house and retire to Idyllwild. If you just want a cabin, that’s a leisure decision like an RV or a boat. Do what makes you happy if you have the means it’s likely a better decision than either a boat or an RV.

Climbers and day trippers will barely sustain a business. 2,000 hikers a year doesn’t compare to your current digs. In fact you are missing out on not turning your place into a B&B once the kids move to college.

Temecula gets 2.7 million tourists a year. Napa/Sonoma gets 3.5 mil tourists a year. But 2.000 people hiked a spot in Idylwild? You are standing on a pile of hundred dollar bills and thinking of moving to a pile of pennies. I’m in a tract home but you are on land within the vineyards, there is opportunity right under your nose. I get it, you are a bit eccentric, but don’t for a minute think lots of other people want to spend their weekends volunteering as fire scouts. Good for you. Nobody gets rich rescuing cats, but my wife thinks that would be a great life. Luckily she has me to encourage her to keep her day job and she can have that as a hobby if she wants as long as it doesn’t involve the house. But it’s not an investment or a vocation, it’s a hobby/charity/volunteer opportunity.

Let it be your hobby, but you didn’t find gold. So buy a weekend home if you like but head to head, Temecula real estate will beat Idyllwild real estate over time for lots of reasons. I still think Arrowhead/Big Bear represent a better investment because it gets year round tourism, Idyllwild practically closes when it snows, it doesn’t capitalize on it like the other areas.[/quote]

I don’t have the data but I’d easily bet that Idyllwild gets more than 2000 visitors/year. Just, between myself and a few climbing buddies I could probably account for nearly 100 visitors last year.

But it’s true that the number of visitors to Idyllwild is probably a fraction of Temecula’s number and the demographics and spending habits are different. Many hikers don’t even stop at restaurants and there are no tour busses full of wine guzzling cougars.

Of course the economies of Arrowhead/Big Bear are much bigger, but that’s already priced into real estate and businesses.

I don’t think Mr. scardey actually believes he could make a lucrative living in Idyllwild. Although as an established lawyer that’s willing to travel occasionally, it could be a place to enjoy a balanced lifestyle.

[scaredyclassic]

I think at the end of the day, the best part is really just fantasizing about real estate with your wife in a mountain city bakery after camping with giant cups of coffee and scones.

Real estate magazines, at the right moment, are proven aphrodisiacs. That’s science, people

Looking toward the future here at low altitude, less giddy, I feel now that the future of the san jacinto forest in 20 years will probably be bad bad bad due to global warming.

Increasing dryness and higher temps, insect infestations killing weaker trees, fires. Without a forest, the place will become death valley mountain ranges…

If I believed there would likely be a lush, healthy forest up there in my old age, I’d be much more confident about putting down some money for a home, whether vacation or relocation. It definitely feels and looks different up there than 10 years ago.

Although …while we were in the bakery we saw a team of many artsy people sketching measuring and snapping pics. Fox network people, they said, some new idyllwild show in the works…

Still, the future is in my eyes bleak, for idyllwild, and very coastal mansions. I forgot that due to temporary euphoria. Could be cool to live on a death valley denuded san jac. Hill, but that’s more like a near ghost town..

[FlyerInHi]

I agree, scaredy should build a couple of detached guest houses or attached extension to his house — as much as allowed by local planning. He would make good money running an airbnb in wine country. I have a friend of a friend doing that in a big house in San Francisco.

I am surprised how many people visit temecula because I don’t think of temecula as a tourist destination. I have friends in OC/LA who love going wine tasting. I have nit yet driven up from San Diego to join them.

[flyer]

Scaredy, lots of beautiful mountain towns around the world. We’ve visited many over the years, and it’s a vacation idea you might want to consider.

We bought in Tahoe years ago (long before the tech giants arrived) and the kids loved our time there when they were growing up. Great memories, and still have family gatherings there.

Even though we prefer being close (glad we’re a few miles from Del Mar with the coastal issues the state is facing) to the ocean, the ambience of mountain towns can’t be denied.

[scaredyclassic]

Investing for climate change real estate opportunities now seems maybe prudent.

[FlyerInHi]

I think you would enjoy building a cabin like a danish allotment hut.

Or a tea house overlooking wine country. No need to buy. Use the land you already have.

[scaredyclassic]

I’m starting to feel like the main factor and question for most decisions is , will it be fun longterm?

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