Save the middle class! This is our chance.

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]
Some americans (most americans I would say) choose to blow it on immediate bullshit. Fancy cars, fancy homes, fancy clothes and jewelry… And often, some who make less income others and those people spend more often end up trying to “keep up with the jones” and spend money they don’t have when they really should be investing in their future. [/quote]

Wait, aren’t you the one extolling the virtues of fancy Acuras, BMWs and other 400HP cars? You have a powerful following and not everyone can resist temptation to spend all their money and then some on those beautiful beasts.

You know I jest. Some of the newbies here may not know that the “millionaire next door” lives in middle class neighborhood with the old Taurus/Camry/Accord and spends money on the business and other income producing assets you discussed.

[an]

equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.

[an]

equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.

[an]

equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.

[an]

equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.

[an]

equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.

[equalizer]

[quote=patientrenter]afx, i’m all for the best of both worlds in between solutions. but norway is a special case. massive oil revenues and a small, homogeneous, well-educated population.

norway’s lesson for usa: reduce your population by 95%, and things will be easier for the people left.[/quote]

“Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men. It also could include tax incentives for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children, he said.”

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/capital/index.ssf?/base/news-6/122223371288730.xml&coll=1

Indira Gandhi tried this in the 70’s but without a dictatorship, it doesn’t work too well.

“Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization.”

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html

[equalizer]

[quote=patientrenter]afx, i’m all for the best of both worlds in between solutions. but norway is a special case. massive oil revenues and a small, homogeneous, well-educated population.

norway’s lesson for usa: reduce your population by 95%, and things will be easier for the people left.[/quote]

“Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men. It also could include tax incentives for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children, he said.”

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/capital/index.ssf?/base/news-6/122223371288730.xml&coll=1

Indira Gandhi tried this in the 70’s but without a dictatorship, it doesn’t work too well.

“Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization.”

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html

[equalizer]

[quote=patientrenter]afx, i’m all for the best of both worlds in between solutions. but norway is a special case. massive oil revenues and a small, homogeneous, well-educated population.

norway’s lesson for usa: reduce your population by 95%, and things will be easier for the people left.[/quote]

“Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men. It also could include tax incentives for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children, he said.”

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/capital/index.ssf?/base/news-6/122223371288730.xml&coll=1

Indira Gandhi tried this in the 70’s but without a dictatorship, it doesn’t work too well.

“Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization.”

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html

[equalizer]

[quote=patientrenter]afx, i’m all for the best of both worlds in between solutions. but norway is a special case. massive oil revenues and a small, homogeneous, well-educated population.

norway’s lesson for usa: reduce your population by 95%, and things will be easier for the people left.[/quote]

“Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men. It also could include tax incentives for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children, he said.”

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/capital/index.ssf?/base/news-6/122223371288730.xml&coll=1

Indira Gandhi tried this in the 70’s but without a dictatorship, it doesn’t work too well.

“Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization.”

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html

[equalizer]

[quote=patientrenter]afx, i’m all for the best of both worlds in between solutions. but norway is a special case. massive oil revenues and a small, homogeneous, well-educated population.

norway’s lesson for usa: reduce your population by 95%, and things will be easier for the people left.[/quote]

“Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men. It also could include tax incentives for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children, he said.”

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/capital/index.ssf?/base/news-6/122223371288730.xml&coll=1

Indira Gandhi tried this in the 70’s but without a dictatorship, it doesn’t work too well.

“Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization.”

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html

[equalizer]

[quote=AN]equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.[/quote]
Yes, it was just to bring a fresh perspective to kids have to start school at 3. Sure, we cant replicate most of it since there is one only language spoken by all students there. The point is that teaching is very valued, so all the schools in Finland are homogenous in a good sense, they are all “Carmel Valley schools”.

[equalizer]

[quote=AN]equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.[/quote]
Yes, it was just to bring a fresh perspective to kids have to start school at 3. Sure, we cant replicate most of it since there is one only language spoken by all students there. The point is that teaching is very valued, so all the schools in Finland are homogenous in a good sense, they are all “Carmel Valley schools”.

[equalizer]

[quote=AN]equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.[/quote]
Yes, it was just to bring a fresh perspective to kids have to start school at 3. Sure, we cant replicate most of it since there is one only language spoken by all students there. The point is that teaching is very valued, so all the schools in Finland are homogenous in a good sense, they are all “Carmel Valley schools”.

[equalizer]

[quote=AN]equalizer, it’s a little hard to compare US schools w/ Finnish schools and say which one did a better job. Especially since Finland has a population of ~5M and US have well over 300M people. San Diego alone has ~3M people. Secondly, what you said about “Parents nurture a love of reading among children…” is the KEY to why they might have a better school system. You can easily look at this one factor and compare Carmel Valley school vs school in El Cajon. The other differences is, Finland have a voucher system for their schools and we do not. People here in the US are stuck w/ the school around where they live, which mean they’re stuck in their social economic environment. If we implement a voucher system, students in El Cajon why want to succeed can easily go to Carmel Valley school w/out any issue. If you have a population who treasure education, they will excel in school. It all starts at home.[/quote]
Yes, it was just to bring a fresh perspective to kids have to start school at 3. Sure, we cant replicate most of it since there is one only language spoken by all students there. The point is that teaching is very valued, so all the schools in Finland are homogenous in a good sense, they are all “Carmel Valley schools”.

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