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June 7, 2008 at 10:32 PM #219184June 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM #219291temeculaguyParticipant
bsharma, actually amusement parks and local attractions are a terrible indicator of the economy, there can actually be a reverse effect. I’ve read a number of studies that when discretionary income falls, vacations and outings aren’t eliminated, they are downgraded. An example is that a family who is accustomed to taking their vacation in hawaii or europe will not forgo their vacation but disneyland, camping or something similar that does not involve air travel will be taken instead. Southern Californian’s with less vacation money will be “rediscovering” local vacations at a fraction of the cost, even if gas were to quadruple, it’s cheaper than flying. So when you see some local attraction having increased attendance it is actually a sign of financial distress. Cruises sometimes also benefit because they are more economical and the shorter ones to a greater extent. There are a lot of people, like myself who are unaffected by an economic downturn directly in their paychecks but their psyche is affected because of what they see and hear, I’m not ready to spend my vacation at home burying nickels in the backyard but I’m also looking to spend less than half of what I would have in the past and the extra $50 in gas for a local vacation is nothing compared to a $5000 vacation for a family I would have taken in years past. I haven’t been to Sea World in ten years but this may be the year I go. Currency values are another factor, it’s cheap for foriegners to come here and expensive for us to leave.
June 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM #219385temeculaguyParticipantbsharma, actually amusement parks and local attractions are a terrible indicator of the economy, there can actually be a reverse effect. I’ve read a number of studies that when discretionary income falls, vacations and outings aren’t eliminated, they are downgraded. An example is that a family who is accustomed to taking their vacation in hawaii or europe will not forgo their vacation but disneyland, camping or something similar that does not involve air travel will be taken instead. Southern Californian’s with less vacation money will be “rediscovering” local vacations at a fraction of the cost, even if gas were to quadruple, it’s cheaper than flying. So when you see some local attraction having increased attendance it is actually a sign of financial distress. Cruises sometimes also benefit because they are more economical and the shorter ones to a greater extent. There are a lot of people, like myself who are unaffected by an economic downturn directly in their paychecks but their psyche is affected because of what they see and hear, I’m not ready to spend my vacation at home burying nickels in the backyard but I’m also looking to spend less than half of what I would have in the past and the extra $50 in gas for a local vacation is nothing compared to a $5000 vacation for a family I would have taken in years past. I haven’t been to Sea World in ten years but this may be the year I go. Currency values are another factor, it’s cheap for foriegners to come here and expensive for us to leave.
June 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM #219404temeculaguyParticipantbsharma, actually amusement parks and local attractions are a terrible indicator of the economy, there can actually be a reverse effect. I’ve read a number of studies that when discretionary income falls, vacations and outings aren’t eliminated, they are downgraded. An example is that a family who is accustomed to taking their vacation in hawaii or europe will not forgo their vacation but disneyland, camping or something similar that does not involve air travel will be taken instead. Southern Californian’s with less vacation money will be “rediscovering” local vacations at a fraction of the cost, even if gas were to quadruple, it’s cheaper than flying. So when you see some local attraction having increased attendance it is actually a sign of financial distress. Cruises sometimes also benefit because they are more economical and the shorter ones to a greater extent. There are a lot of people, like myself who are unaffected by an economic downturn directly in their paychecks but their psyche is affected because of what they see and hear, I’m not ready to spend my vacation at home burying nickels in the backyard but I’m also looking to spend less than half of what I would have in the past and the extra $50 in gas for a local vacation is nothing compared to a $5000 vacation for a family I would have taken in years past. I haven’t been to Sea World in ten years but this may be the year I go. Currency values are another factor, it’s cheap for foriegners to come here and expensive for us to leave.
June 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM #219433temeculaguyParticipantbsharma, actually amusement parks and local attractions are a terrible indicator of the economy, there can actually be a reverse effect. I’ve read a number of studies that when discretionary income falls, vacations and outings aren’t eliminated, they are downgraded. An example is that a family who is accustomed to taking their vacation in hawaii or europe will not forgo their vacation but disneyland, camping or something similar that does not involve air travel will be taken instead. Southern Californian’s with less vacation money will be “rediscovering” local vacations at a fraction of the cost, even if gas were to quadruple, it’s cheaper than flying. So when you see some local attraction having increased attendance it is actually a sign of financial distress. Cruises sometimes also benefit because they are more economical and the shorter ones to a greater extent. There are a lot of people, like myself who are unaffected by an economic downturn directly in their paychecks but their psyche is affected because of what they see and hear, I’m not ready to spend my vacation at home burying nickels in the backyard but I’m also looking to spend less than half of what I would have in the past and the extra $50 in gas for a local vacation is nothing compared to a $5000 vacation for a family I would have taken in years past. I haven’t been to Sea World in ten years but this may be the year I go. Currency values are another factor, it’s cheap for foriegners to come here and expensive for us to leave.
June 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM #219453temeculaguyParticipantbsharma, actually amusement parks and local attractions are a terrible indicator of the economy, there can actually be a reverse effect. I’ve read a number of studies that when discretionary income falls, vacations and outings aren’t eliminated, they are downgraded. An example is that a family who is accustomed to taking their vacation in hawaii or europe will not forgo their vacation but disneyland, camping or something similar that does not involve air travel will be taken instead. Southern Californian’s with less vacation money will be “rediscovering” local vacations at a fraction of the cost, even if gas were to quadruple, it’s cheaper than flying. So when you see some local attraction having increased attendance it is actually a sign of financial distress. Cruises sometimes also benefit because they are more economical and the shorter ones to a greater extent. There are a lot of people, like myself who are unaffected by an economic downturn directly in their paychecks but their psyche is affected because of what they see and hear, I’m not ready to spend my vacation at home burying nickels in the backyard but I’m also looking to spend less than half of what I would have in the past and the extra $50 in gas for a local vacation is nothing compared to a $5000 vacation for a family I would have taken in years past. I haven’t been to Sea World in ten years but this may be the year I go. Currency values are another factor, it’s cheap for foriegners to come here and expensive for us to leave.
June 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM #219436bsrsharmaParticipantYou may be right. I hear more and more about people taking a “Staycation”. If many people take staycations, surely the Seaworlds and Zoos will be crowded but domestic air traffic and long distance driving will comedown. Looks like it is happening, going by the reports of grounding of planes by carriers. But overall leisure spending will come down.
June 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM #219531bsrsharmaParticipantYou may be right. I hear more and more about people taking a “Staycation”. If many people take staycations, surely the Seaworlds and Zoos will be crowded but domestic air traffic and long distance driving will comedown. Looks like it is happening, going by the reports of grounding of planes by carriers. But overall leisure spending will come down.
June 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM #219549bsrsharmaParticipantYou may be right. I hear more and more about people taking a “Staycation”. If many people take staycations, surely the Seaworlds and Zoos will be crowded but domestic air traffic and long distance driving will comedown. Looks like it is happening, going by the reports of grounding of planes by carriers. But overall leisure spending will come down.
June 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM #219579bsrsharmaParticipantYou may be right. I hear more and more about people taking a “Staycation”. If many people take staycations, surely the Seaworlds and Zoos will be crowded but domestic air traffic and long distance driving will comedown. Looks like it is happening, going by the reports of grounding of planes by carriers. But overall leisure spending will come down.
June 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM #219598bsrsharmaParticipantYou may be right. I hear more and more about people taking a “Staycation”. If many people take staycations, surely the Seaworlds and Zoos will be crowded but domestic air traffic and long distance driving will comedown. Looks like it is happening, going by the reports of grounding of planes by carriers. But overall leisure spending will come down.
June 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM #219603Akula1992ParticipantAecetia,
I have actually seen the carpool thingy work pretty well when I lived outside of Washington DC. People would park in the commuter lots outside the city and basically get in lines at designated spots depending on what their destination was. There they called it “slugging” and the person looking for a ride was a “slug”. Another person would come along and pick up a couple of folks that wanted to go to the same, or nearly same, destination and they would be able to use the HOV-3 lane. The riders didn’t pay for gas or anything else. They merely got the ride for free and the person driving the car got the free benefit of being able to use the HOV lane – a huuuuuge benefit in the DC Metro area.
One of my friends used it every day. She would go down to the commuter parking lot a little bit early and catch a ride.(She worked at the Pentagon so it was really simple.) At the end of the day she would do the reverse process and get a ride back to the commuter lot she parked at and drive the 2 miles or so back home.
People incentivize(sp?) very well. All they normally need is a reason to change their behavior and the knowledge that an alternative exists.
June 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM #219699Akula1992ParticipantAecetia,
I have actually seen the carpool thingy work pretty well when I lived outside of Washington DC. People would park in the commuter lots outside the city and basically get in lines at designated spots depending on what their destination was. There they called it “slugging” and the person looking for a ride was a “slug”. Another person would come along and pick up a couple of folks that wanted to go to the same, or nearly same, destination and they would be able to use the HOV-3 lane. The riders didn’t pay for gas or anything else. They merely got the ride for free and the person driving the car got the free benefit of being able to use the HOV lane – a huuuuuge benefit in the DC Metro area.
One of my friends used it every day. She would go down to the commuter parking lot a little bit early and catch a ride.(She worked at the Pentagon so it was really simple.) At the end of the day she would do the reverse process and get a ride back to the commuter lot she parked at and drive the 2 miles or so back home.
People incentivize(sp?) very well. All they normally need is a reason to change their behavior and the knowledge that an alternative exists.
June 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM #219710Akula1992ParticipantAecetia,
I have actually seen the carpool thingy work pretty well when I lived outside of Washington DC. People would park in the commuter lots outside the city and basically get in lines at designated spots depending on what their destination was. There they called it “slugging” and the person looking for a ride was a “slug”. Another person would come along and pick up a couple of folks that wanted to go to the same, or nearly same, destination and they would be able to use the HOV-3 lane. The riders didn’t pay for gas or anything else. They merely got the ride for free and the person driving the car got the free benefit of being able to use the HOV lane – a huuuuuge benefit in the DC Metro area.
One of my friends used it every day. She would go down to the commuter parking lot a little bit early and catch a ride.(She worked at the Pentagon so it was really simple.) At the end of the day she would do the reverse process and get a ride back to the commuter lot she parked at and drive the 2 miles or so back home.
People incentivize(sp?) very well. All they normally need is a reason to change their behavior and the knowledge that an alternative exists.
June 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM #219741Akula1992ParticipantAecetia,
I have actually seen the carpool thingy work pretty well when I lived outside of Washington DC. People would park in the commuter lots outside the city and basically get in lines at designated spots depending on what their destination was. There they called it “slugging” and the person looking for a ride was a “slug”. Another person would come along and pick up a couple of folks that wanted to go to the same, or nearly same, destination and they would be able to use the HOV-3 lane. The riders didn’t pay for gas or anything else. They merely got the ride for free and the person driving the car got the free benefit of being able to use the HOV lane – a huuuuuge benefit in the DC Metro area.
One of my friends used it every day. She would go down to the commuter parking lot a little bit early and catch a ride.(She worked at the Pentagon so it was really simple.) At the end of the day she would do the reverse process and get a ride back to the commuter lot she parked at and drive the 2 miles or so back home.
People incentivize(sp?) very well. All they normally need is a reason to change their behavior and the knowledge that an alternative exists.
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