San Diego homeless, mercifully, do not live very long

[spdrun]

I don’t think you’d want cities and states to have the ability to “deport” people to other parts of the USA.

[FlyerInHi]

Just watched it.

The reasons the homeless come to cities like Seattle is because of liberal policies.
Give the police the authority to deport the drug addicts back to their hometowns so their parents can teach them to “just say no.”

Rural areas and small towns have been exporting their druggies to large cities for too long. The reporters should have asked the druggies where they were born.

Drug treatment prisons? That should a federal program because druggies come from all areas of the country. Plus whatever happened to “just say no”?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]I don’t think you’d want cities and states to have the ability to “deport” people to other parts of the USA.[/quote]

The areas who send us their worst should be forced to take them back. Just say no to drugs.
I think the USA should implement a hometown registration system like China where people can only move to large cities when they have jobs or bonafide reasons. That would work and get rid of the druggies real quick.

I’m just being facetious.

The facts are only a certain percent of the population will be drug addicted and cities are saturated and have dealt with drugs a long time already. The growth is now in rural areas and small town. And new drug addicts drift to skidrow in large liberal cities. Journalists should look into that.

[spdrun]

How about spending money on medical treatment for addicts and creating educational/job opportunities? Also, decriminalize personal use of all drugs so as not to stigmatize former addicts with a rap sheet and further ruin their lives. The US views the problem too punitively.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]How about spending money on medical treatment for addicts and creating educational/job opportunities? Also, decriminalize personal use of all drugs so as not to stigmatize former addicts with a rap sheet and further ruin their lives. The US views the problem too punitively.[/quote]

That would be too compassionate and requires a Federal response to a national problem.

Pragmatically, I say that cities already dealt with their own drug problems in decades past. We should not have to take and pay for the rotten exports from other areas, like guys from Kentucky coming to make it in Hollywood and falling into homelessness. Kentucky should take them back after they fail.

[temeculaguy]

Brian, some reporter in OC did an in depth piece on it. It’s not scientific research but at least a reporter is asking questions like “where are you from and how did you get here.”

Are drug rehab centers fueling homelessness in Southern California?

He affirmed some of your assertions but not that small towns send them to coastal cities, for profit treatment centers fly them out until their insurance runs out, then kick them out and they don’t wander far. Plus they prefer the weather.

[phaster]

[quote=temeculaguy]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

“Seattle is dying” is from a local ABC news affiliate so it’s not a fox news production and at the end of the hour things seem clear, evidence based solutions are needed. I’ll be the first to admit documentaries can be biased, not sure if this one is but instead of just showing a problem, they show a solution. Complaining is not a strategy, show me proof that an alternative can work, now that is a strategy. It’s not a partisan problem, SD should go with what works. The Seattle model doesn’t work but maybe Rhode Island has something that can be replicated. Rhode island is a Blue State for those keeping score, perhaps that will make this an easier pill to swallow since this is a liberal vs liberal argument being made and the Rhode island liberals seem to have the better answer. I don’t care who comes up with the the answer as long as it works. My apologies if it takes an hour of your life but it’s worthwhile to watch it to the end.[/quote]

just recalled the homeless guy from the movie “they live” in another thread,…

https://www.piggington.com/there_no_gd?page=1#comment-283559

anyway addressing the problem of homeless, will require recognizing it is a symptom of failure on various fronts,… in other words we have to recognize that people become homeless because they often don’t have the necessary talent(s) in demand which could enable them to earn money in a global economy, they also don’t have the best coping skills, so too often they medicate themselves to ease the physical and mental pain

lastly mentioned the homeless guy character from “they live” because we have to recognize that we’re being invaded,… not by space aliens

They Live (1988) – Obey, Consume, This is Your God

but rather by no talent a$$ clowns, who have placed themselves in various positions of leadership in society, so,…

[quote]

Todd Rex Gloria (born May 10, 1978) is an American politician serving in the California State Assembly. A Democrat, he represents the 78th Assembly District, which encompasses much of San Diego and is the current Majority Whip.

Prior to his election to the Assembly in 2016, Gloria served as the member of the San Diego City Council representing District 3. He was president of the nine-member council from 2012 through 2014. In his role as council president, Gloria served as interim Mayor of San Diego from the August 2013 resignation of Mayor Bob Filner until the March 2014 inauguration of Mayor Kevin Faulconer.[1]

On January 9, 2019, Gloria announced that he would run for Mayor of San Diego in the 2020 election. In announcing his campaign, he focused on housing affordability, homelessness, and climate change, and promised to build a “world class public transportation system.”[2]

Life and career[edit]

Gloria is a third generation San Diegan, all four of his grandparents having moved to San Diego because of their involvement with the military.[3] He has described his ethnic background in an interview as being: “[b]asically half Native American (Tlingit-Haida, an Alaskan tribe), a quarter Filipino and then a little bit of Dutch and Puerto Rican.”[3]

He grew up in the Clairemont neighborhood and attended Madison High School. He was interested in politics from childhood. At age 10, he was runner-up in a “mayor for a day” contest. At 14, he volunteered to work for Democratic candidates in the 1992 election.[4]

Gloria graduated summa cum laude from the University of San Diego, with majors in history and political science.[5] While a student at USD, Gloria was active in the effort to add “sexual orientation” to the campus nondiscrimination policy.[4] He was also a member of Delta Lambda Phi.

blah, blah, blah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Gloria
[/quote]

the simple unvarnished truth,… (as seen by the homeless hero character in “they live”)
https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/4/14/4c36d3f5fe49e934ed89d2dc27e4052f-full.png

http://www.TinyURL.com/ToddGloria

Todd Rex Gloria “the politician” is a career crony hack who has not fixed any big problems,… has a needy personality so is always on the prowl for a photo-opt

Tweets by ToddGloria

and given he is a “career politician” he is always looking for a handout from partisan political doners and various lobbyist

https://votesmart.org/candidate/campaign-finance/112061/todd-gloria

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=phaster]
anyway addressing the problem of homeless, will require recognizing it is a symptom of failure on various fronts,… in other words we have to recognize that people become homeless because they often don’t have the necessary talent(s) in demand which could enable them to earn money in a global economy, they also don’t have the best coping skills, so too often they medicate themselves to ease the physical and mental pain. [/quote]

Seems very permissive. Just say no and bootstrap.

Once the wall is built, Mexicans won’t be able to push drugs on vulnerable Americans anymore.

[FlyerInHi]

This is homelessness and covid19

Las Vegas homeless people are sleeping in a parking lot — six feet apart
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/30/us/coronavirus-las-vegas-homeless-cashman-center-trnd/index.html

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]
It’s drugs and mental illness. We have a moral crisis in America. Stephen Colbert said 1/12th the population has a felony conviction. Not counting all the other crimes and dysfunction.[/quote]
Actually I would have to agree with FlyerInHi/brian here (and then I will have to wash my mouth out with soap..)

I have been closer to this situation than most. I have watched as an adolescent I know grew up into adulthood with very little responsibilities and structure. They were never told ‘no’ to anything they wanted. I tried to advise/intervene with the parent, but no success (there are serious legal limitations there). The parent was more concerned with the adolescent ‘liking/loving them’ as opposed to the approach that they should be guiding/forming a child into an adult who will be a responsible, contributing – and if the child likes/loves the parent in the end; so much the better. The process of growing up should be for the child, and the child’s development; not for the adult’s feelings of approval.

Lets call the above parent; “Parent1”. Lets introduce “Parent2” who is related to “Parent1”. Parent2 also has children, Parent1 has always felt that “Parent2” was hard on their children, however at the current state; Parent2’s child is functioning, has a job, active in sports, and has the goal to go into the Military. Yes this child has the normal problems associated with growing up in the teens, but they seem to be managing.

Parent1’s child is currently living ‘independently’, if you can call it ‘independent’. They are living off of assistance as a dual-diagnosis through SSI, which covers rent and food. They have used Marijuana, Hashish, Ecstasy(MDMA), and Methamphetamine(still using). They have been to the hospital 3 times that I remember on (near) ODs. One time they were brought to the hospital completely catatonic because they had used Meth to the point that they depleted their brain of dopamine. It took them nearly 7 days to come out of catatonia. When off any of the above drugs, they are normal – under these drugs or after recently using them, they demonstrate significant signs of schizophrenia. NOTE: the person doesn’t seem quite as normal now after all the near ODs – quite a bit slower mentally. This person seems to notice it, but still uses (no self control).

NOTE: This kid likes the concept that he is self medicating because it means that he is not responsible for his behavior… he is just self medicating(until completely fried). I busted him once on that because he let it slip that he liked the way it made him feel, that he liked the stoned effect.

If it weren’t for the SSI – dual diagnosis ‘disability’, they would likely be on the street, homeless. They have never had a job lasting more than a few days, have no plan, no desire to work… etc. At one point this child felt it would be nice to live as a homeless person.

I’ve tried to ‘file the serial numbers’ off as much as possible to anonymize the info without loosing the gist of what has happened.

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The homeless problem will not be solved as a one solution fits all.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ucodegen]

— and now for the soap, bleagh![/quote]

Have you heard of coconut oil pulling mouthwash?

I agree ucodegen.

About drugs, my rental ads are frequently flagged for “NO DRUGS”. It seems like on facebook marketplace, too many NO statements result in the ad potentially violating policies. I always have to request manual review.

Anyway, our society is screwed up. Drugs will be our downfall.

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