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November 1, 2011 at 9:10 PM #731948November 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM #731949markmax33Guest
[quote=walterwhite]the “i didn’t know what was going on in the newsletter I partly owned that had my name in it and was written in the first person by some anonymous ghostwriter” defense is probably his onyl sho, but his political opponents can just factually show the newsletters, the statements and a video of ron paul’s denials and it won’t look great for ron paul.
but i’ll vote for him. just promise me you won’t think of me as a hyperconservative old white guy for inwardly actually wanting establishment barack to stay in office.[/quote]
Even John Stewart said he tried to find Ron Paul contradicting himself and couldn’t find a single video. There’s 30 years of videos on the guy. There are guys who speak for him all over the place, like me.
November 1, 2011 at 9:17 PM #731950scaredyclassicParticipanttrue, but this was published by a group owned by him, with his name THE RON PAUL LETTER on the top, and signed by him. it was supposed to look like it cam from him.
i guess it could all be a giant fraud on ron paul.
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman, “Song of Myself”
US poet (1819 – 1892)November 1, 2011 at 9:36 PM #731951markmax33Guest[quote=walterwhite]true, but this was published by a group owned by him, with his name THE RON PAUL LETTER on the top, and signed by him. it was supposed to look like it cam from him.
i guess it could all be a giant fraud on ron paul.
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman, “Song of Myself”
US poet (1819 – 1892)[/quote]I’m glad you could find one questionable thing in 40 years of hard work and not actually take any of the real facts to task. Kudos sir! Try addressing some of the real questions I posed!
November 1, 2011 at 9:39 PM #731952scaredyclassicParticipantthe bruno clip.
in a video i was watching of hsi explanation of the clip, he says he hasn’t really gone to the movies since sound of music.
kind of weird. i agree, other than the weird 70’s newsletter, he’s clean as a whistle. still, i’d kind of like my president to have at least watched some Simpsons.
November 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM #731959briansd1GuestSeems to like the state and local governments are more corrupt than the Federal government.
American history is replete with corruption at the local levels.
November 2, 2011 at 7:11 AM #731971markmax33Guest[quote=briansd1]Seems to like the state and local governments are more corrupt than the Federal government.
American history is replete with corruption at the local levels.[/quote]
Sources? I’m sure there’s anecdotal evidence. Local politicians are easier to vote out by definition. Congress’s collective net worth is up 25% since 2008 and that’s a fact. Is yours? Is your local GOV’s net worth up that much? I’ll bet you $1M that’s not even close to true across the country!
November 2, 2011 at 7:55 AM #731974DomoArigatoParticipant[quote=markmax33]EVERY SINGLE FIAT CURRENCY HAS FAILED IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. [/quote]
SO HAS EVERY SINGLE GOLD AND SILVER-BACKED CURRENCY.
In Diocletian’s time, in the year 301, he fixed the price at 50,000 denarii for one pound of gold. Ten years later it had risen to 120,000. In 324, 23 years after it was 50,000, it was now 300,000. In 337, the year of Constantine’s death, a pound of gold brought 20,000,000 denarii.
It doesn’t matter what a currency is backed by, the controllers of the currency can always debase it by changing the exchange rate.
The only way to protect yourself from currency debasement is to own gold or silver.
November 2, 2011 at 8:11 AM #731978DomoArigatoParticipantI’m with Ron Paul on cutting back the Defense budget. The top 100 private defense contractors are costing taxpayers $306 billion per year.
http://www.govexec.com/features/0807-15/0807-15s3s1.htm
Generally, private contractors are paid twice as much as government employees doing the same work, so it would be much more efficient to hire the contractors full time and cut out the private contractor all together.
November 2, 2011 at 8:33 AM #731981markmax33Guest[quote=DomoArigato]I’m with Ron Paul on cutting back the Defense budget. The top 100 private defense contractors are costing taxpayers $306 billion per year.
http://www.govexec.com/features/0807-15/0807-15s3s1.htm
Generally, private contractors are paid twice as much as government employees doing the same work, so it would be much more efficient to hire the contractors full time and cut out the private contractor all together.[/quote]
We spent $1.5T out of the approximately $2.5T we collect on National Offense. We have 900 bases in over 130 different countries. The question you must ask yourself is how many bases would be reasonable in different countries? I think 20 different countries might be reasonable. What do you all think?
If you think our national offense is productive you should watch this Youtube about a suicide bombers and their motivations. This guy collected data on every single suicide bomber over the last 30 years. It is very insightful.
The first part video is about the data validity which is very important but part 2 goes into conclusions and reasoning.November 2, 2011 at 8:39 AM #731983markmax33Guest[quote=DomoArigato][quote=markmax33]EVERY SINGLE FIAT CURRENCY HAS FAILED IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. [/quote]
SO HAS EVERY SINGLE GOLD AND SILVER-BACKED CURRENCY.
In Diocletian’s time, in the year 301, he fixed the price at 50,000 denarii for one pound of gold. Ten years later it had risen to 120,000. In 324, 23 years after it was 50,000, it was now 300,000. In 337, the year of Constantine’s death, a pound of gold brought 20,000,000 denarii.
It doesn’t matter what a currency is backed by, the controllers of the currency can always debase it by changing the exchange rate.
The only way to protect yourself from currency debasement is to own gold or silver.[/quote]
It wasn’t backed properly like we had it backed for 200 years in this country. Doesn’t this gradual reduction of the Gold/Silver standard for paying or war sound just like us? Shouldn’t that alarm the heck out of you?
IT DOESN’T HAVE TO FAIL IF YOU DON’T GO TO POINTLESS WARS AND INSTALL INFINITE SOCIAL PROGRAMS! The average fiat currency lasts 27 years and we are already at 40 since 1971.
Why don’t you stand up and protect your children from this? We know what is going to happen if we don’t get Ron Paul elected. The national debt will be $20T by the end of Obama’s next 4 years.
November 2, 2011 at 8:41 AM #731984briansd1GuestWill Ron Paul run as an independent if he doesn’t get the Republican nomination?
November 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM #731985DomoArigatoParticipant[quote=markmax33]
IT DOESN’T HAVE TO FAIL IF YOU DON’T GO TO POINTLESS WARS AND INSTALL INFINITE SOCIAL PROGRAMS! The average fiat currency lasts 27 years and we are already at 40 since 1971.Why don’t you stand up and protect your children from this? We know what is going to happen if we don’t get Ron Paul elected. The national debt will be $20T by the end of Obama’s next 4 years.[/quote]
22% of U.S. children live in poverty. How is cutting back their programs going to protect them? Do you think children that are near starvation and living in squalor give a shit about the deficit?
November 2, 2011 at 8:56 AM #731987markmax33Guest[quote=briansd1]Will Ron Paul run as an independent if he doesn’t get the Republican nomination?[/quote]
I think he obviously will run, but I don’t know. He’s going to have 30% of the vote and be able to get into all of the debates that require 15% or greater in national polls. He has 15-20% amongst the republican polls alone. His supporters don’t switch their vote, they are by far the most loyal followers of all. Thus the fact he holds the single day fundraising record of $6M+ and the 2nd highest with $4.2M. All from the people!
November 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM #731988DomoArigatoParticipant[quote=markmax33]
It wasn’t backed properly like we had it backed for 200 years in this country. Doesn’t this gradual reduction of the Gold/Silver standard for paying or war sound just like us? Shouldn’t that alarm the heck out of you?
[/quote]So your solution is what, exactly? Travel back in time to the 1930’s and make it so that the U.S. doesn’t go off the gold standard? Why do you think the U.S. went off the gold standard in the first place? Do you think maybe there were some problems with it? If the gold standard failed in the 1930’s, what is to stop it from failing again?
And it’s not like economic crises only come about during times of fiat currencies. Read about the Long Depression that lasted from 1873-1896.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression
But, but, we were on the gold standard then. How could there be a depression?
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