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November 4, 2007 at 4:33 PM #95476November 4, 2007 at 4:33 PM #95483NewtoSanDiegoGuest
Thanks for the welcome to San Diego!
Don’t count on me, or people like me to help bail out the housing market. I don’t think I would buy anywhere in the country now.
After short trip out here I’m even further convinced that housing has nowhere to go but down.
It was a bit disappointing on the housing pricing/quality out here. I’m in no big rush to buy. I may be reasonally well off, but it would still be plain foolish to buy now and lose hundreds of thousands watching an asset depreciate over the next few years.
I’m catching red eye tonight, will be back in town in few weeks. I’ll probably use the free weekend for sightseeing rather than house hunting.
Thanks all again
November 4, 2007 at 4:33 PM #95489NewtoSanDiegoGuestThanks for the welcome to San Diego!
Don’t count on me, or people like me to help bail out the housing market. I don’t think I would buy anywhere in the country now.
After short trip out here I’m even further convinced that housing has nowhere to go but down.
It was a bit disappointing on the housing pricing/quality out here. I’m in no big rush to buy. I may be reasonally well off, but it would still be plain foolish to buy now and lose hundreds of thousands watching an asset depreciate over the next few years.
I’m catching red eye tonight, will be back in town in few weeks. I’ll probably use the free weekend for sightseeing rather than house hunting.
Thanks all again
November 4, 2007 at 10:36 PM #95717CardiffBaseballParticipantI had the good fortune (or misfortune) of living in a hotel for 6 months out in Scripps Ranch (practically Mira Mesa). At first I was thinking CV, Rancho Penasquitos, CV. I’d look at other areas, but I kept thinking CV, RP, CV. Finally as it was getting time for the family to start packing in the midwest I found Cardiff/Encinitas area. I just want to at least throw the idea out there so that you know to take a look up there.
November 4, 2007 at 10:36 PM #95776CardiffBaseballParticipantI had the good fortune (or misfortune) of living in a hotel for 6 months out in Scripps Ranch (practically Mira Mesa). At first I was thinking CV, Rancho Penasquitos, CV. I’d look at other areas, but I kept thinking CV, RP, CV. Finally as it was getting time for the family to start packing in the midwest I found Cardiff/Encinitas area. I just want to at least throw the idea out there so that you know to take a look up there.
November 4, 2007 at 10:36 PM #95782CardiffBaseballParticipantI had the good fortune (or misfortune) of living in a hotel for 6 months out in Scripps Ranch (practically Mira Mesa). At first I was thinking CV, Rancho Penasquitos, CV. I’d look at other areas, but I kept thinking CV, RP, CV. Finally as it was getting time for the family to start packing in the midwest I found Cardiff/Encinitas area. I just want to at least throw the idea out there so that you know to take a look up there.
November 4, 2007 at 10:36 PM #95790CardiffBaseballParticipantI had the good fortune (or misfortune) of living in a hotel for 6 months out in Scripps Ranch (practically Mira Mesa). At first I was thinking CV, Rancho Penasquitos, CV. I’d look at other areas, but I kept thinking CV, RP, CV. Finally as it was getting time for the family to start packing in the midwest I found Cardiff/Encinitas area. I just want to at least throw the idea out there so that you know to take a look up there.
November 5, 2007 at 12:14 AM #957334Sbuyer2002ParticipantIf your ruling out places based on vulnerability to fire . . . don’t rule out 4S Ranch. 4S Ranch and four other recently built communities in the Rancho Santa Fe fire district are probably the safest homes from fire ANYWHERE in San Diego. Not a single 4S home burned.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071025/news_1n25stay.html#The homes in 4S have been lauded as a model of how homes should be constructed in order to be “fire safe.”
The homes are deemed so safe that the fire department recommends you DO NOT evacuate during a wildfire like we had last week. The dangers inherent in evacuation are actually greater than staying in your home.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/education/preparedness/SIP_for_web.pdfThe homes in 4S have a variety of integrated features designed to make them “fire safe.”
http://www.rsf-fire.org/education/programs/adult_shelterinplace.aspMoreover, firestorms like last month aside, even when some hairbrained 4S homeowner throws burning material into their garage with other combustibles and inevitably a fire starts. The fire safe features of the homes are so good the fires are immediately and automatically extinguished with little damage and no harm to occupants.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdfBeing nearer to the coast most likely wont make you safer for either of two reasons. 1) the homes are older and don’t have newer “fire safe” features, and 2) being right on the coast is NOT a gaurantee you aren’t going to be wiped out by a firestorm. Examples are Malibu in the most recent fires and most notably. Laguna Beach, CA in 1993
http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand the Oakland, CA fires of 1991.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestormRather than being close to the coast to protect you from fire, you are better off (in terms of fire protection) to buy a newer home with newer “fire safe” technology intergrated into the homes. 4S homes are the among the very safest from fires anywhere in San Diego.
There are pluses and minuses to 4S. And reasons to buy in 4S or not. However, in your original post you excluded 4S due to “fire danger.” That is not a reason to exclude 4S. In fact if you are worried about fires. 4S should be at the top of your list. Not my 2 cents but that of the experts quoted in the articles linked to herein.
grateful owner . . . .
November 5, 2007 at 12:14 AM #957924Sbuyer2002ParticipantIf your ruling out places based on vulnerability to fire . . . don’t rule out 4S Ranch. 4S Ranch and four other recently built communities in the Rancho Santa Fe fire district are probably the safest homes from fire ANYWHERE in San Diego. Not a single 4S home burned.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071025/news_1n25stay.html#The homes in 4S have been lauded as a model of how homes should be constructed in order to be “fire safe.”
The homes are deemed so safe that the fire department recommends you DO NOT evacuate during a wildfire like we had last week. The dangers inherent in evacuation are actually greater than staying in your home.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/education/preparedness/SIP_for_web.pdfThe homes in 4S have a variety of integrated features designed to make them “fire safe.”
http://www.rsf-fire.org/education/programs/adult_shelterinplace.aspMoreover, firestorms like last month aside, even when some hairbrained 4S homeowner throws burning material into their garage with other combustibles and inevitably a fire starts. The fire safe features of the homes are so good the fires are immediately and automatically extinguished with little damage and no harm to occupants.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdfBeing nearer to the coast most likely wont make you safer for either of two reasons. 1) the homes are older and don’t have newer “fire safe” features, and 2) being right on the coast is NOT a gaurantee you aren’t going to be wiped out by a firestorm. Examples are Malibu in the most recent fires and most notably. Laguna Beach, CA in 1993
http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand the Oakland, CA fires of 1991.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestormRather than being close to the coast to protect you from fire, you are better off (in terms of fire protection) to buy a newer home with newer “fire safe” technology intergrated into the homes. 4S homes are the among the very safest from fires anywhere in San Diego.
There are pluses and minuses to 4S. And reasons to buy in 4S or not. However, in your original post you excluded 4S due to “fire danger.” That is not a reason to exclude 4S. In fact if you are worried about fires. 4S should be at the top of your list. Not my 2 cents but that of the experts quoted in the articles linked to herein.
grateful owner . . . .
November 5, 2007 at 12:14 AM #957994Sbuyer2002ParticipantIf your ruling out places based on vulnerability to fire . . . don’t rule out 4S Ranch. 4S Ranch and four other recently built communities in the Rancho Santa Fe fire district are probably the safest homes from fire ANYWHERE in San Diego. Not a single 4S home burned.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071025/news_1n25stay.html#The homes in 4S have been lauded as a model of how homes should be constructed in order to be “fire safe.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/weekinreview/28odonnell.html?_r=1&oref=sloginThe homes are deemed so safe that the fire department recommends you DO NOT evacuate during a wildfire like we had last week. The dangers inherent in evacuation are actually greater than staying in your home.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/education/preparedness/SIP_for_web.pdfThe homes in 4S have a variety of integrated features designed to make them “fire safe.”
http://www.rsf-fire.org/education/programs/adult_shelterinplace.aspMoreover, firestorms like last month aside, even when some hairbrained 4S homeowner throws burning material into their garage with other combustibles and inevitably a fire starts. The fire safe features of the homes are so good the fires are immediately and automatically extinguished with little damage and no harm to occupants.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdfBeing nearer to the coast most likely wont make you safer for either of two reasons. 1) the homes are older and don’t have newer “fire safe” features, and 2) being right on the coast is NOT a gaurantee you aren’t going to be wiped out by a firestorm. Examples are Malibu in the most recent fires and most notably. Laguna Beach, CA in 1993
http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand the Oakland, CA fires of 1991.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestormRather than being close to the coast to protect you from fire, you are better off (in terms of fire protection) to buy a newer home with newer “fire safe” technology intergrated into the homes. 4S homes are the among the very safest from fires anywhere in San Diego.
There are pluses and minuses to 4S. And reasons to buy in 4S or not. However, in your original post you excluded 4S due to “fire danger.” That is not a reason to exclude 4S. In fact if you are worried about fires. 4S should be at the top of your list. Not my 2 cents but that of the experts quoted in the articles linked to herein.
grateful owner . . . .
November 5, 2007 at 12:14 AM #958074Sbuyer2002ParticipantIf your ruling out places based on vulnerability to fire . . . don’t rule out 4S Ranch. 4S Ranch and four other recently built communities in the Rancho Santa Fe fire district are probably the safest homes from fire ANYWHERE in San Diego. Not a single 4S home burned.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071025/news_1n25stay.html#The homes in 4S have been lauded as a model of how homes should be constructed in order to be “fire safe.”
The homes are deemed so safe that the fire department recommends you DO NOT evacuate during a wildfire like we had last week. The dangers inherent in evacuation are actually greater than staying in your home.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/education/preparedness/SIP_for_web.pdfThe homes in 4S have a variety of integrated features designed to make them “fire safe.”
http://www.rsf-fire.org/education/programs/adult_shelterinplace.aspMoreover, firestorms like last month aside, even when some hairbrained 4S homeowner throws burning material into their garage with other combustibles and inevitably a fire starts. The fire safe features of the homes are so good the fires are immediately and automatically extinguished with little damage and no harm to occupants.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/assets/documents/news/news_releases/2005/100605%20Cayenne%20Creek%20Fire.pdfBeing nearer to the coast most likely wont make you safer for either of two reasons. 1) the homes are older and don’t have newer “fire safe” features, and 2) being right on the coast is NOT a gaurantee you aren’t going to be wiped out by a firestorm. Examples are Malibu in the most recent fires and most notably. Laguna Beach, CA in 1993
http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand the Oakland, CA fires of 1991.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestormRather than being close to the coast to protect you from fire, you are better off (in terms of fire protection) to buy a newer home with newer “fire safe” technology intergrated into the homes. 4S homes are the among the very safest from fires anywhere in San Diego.
There are pluses and minuses to 4S. And reasons to buy in 4S or not. However, in your original post you excluded 4S due to “fire danger.” That is not a reason to exclude 4S. In fact if you are worried about fires. 4S should be at the top of your list. Not my 2 cents but that of the experts quoted in the articles linked to herein.
grateful owner . . . .
November 5, 2007 at 5:31 AM #957414plexownerParticipantI grew up in Texas so San Diego’s primary attraction for me is the weather
Something you will find after you move here is that the temperature increases about 1 degree for every mile you head inland from the coast
If you want to enjoy San Diego’s weather live west of I-5 – if heat is really an issue live in Pt Loma / Coronado (typically 2 degrees cooler than rest of town)
East of I-5 the afternoons can get warmer than I care for but the ocean breeze usually kicks in around 4 or 5 pm and then it is pleasant in most parts of the county
November 5, 2007 at 5:31 AM #958004plexownerParticipantI grew up in Texas so San Diego’s primary attraction for me is the weather
Something you will find after you move here is that the temperature increases about 1 degree for every mile you head inland from the coast
If you want to enjoy San Diego’s weather live west of I-5 – if heat is really an issue live in Pt Loma / Coronado (typically 2 degrees cooler than rest of town)
East of I-5 the afternoons can get warmer than I care for but the ocean breeze usually kicks in around 4 or 5 pm and then it is pleasant in most parts of the county
November 5, 2007 at 5:31 AM #958064plexownerParticipantI grew up in Texas so San Diego’s primary attraction for me is the weather
Something you will find after you move here is that the temperature increases about 1 degree for every mile you head inland from the coast
If you want to enjoy San Diego’s weather live west of I-5 – if heat is really an issue live in Pt Loma / Coronado (typically 2 degrees cooler than rest of town)
East of I-5 the afternoons can get warmer than I care for but the ocean breeze usually kicks in around 4 or 5 pm and then it is pleasant in most parts of the county
November 5, 2007 at 5:31 AM #958154plexownerParticipantI grew up in Texas so San Diego’s primary attraction for me is the weather
Something you will find after you move here is that the temperature increases about 1 degree for every mile you head inland from the coast
If you want to enjoy San Diego’s weather live west of I-5 – if heat is really an issue live in Pt Loma / Coronado (typically 2 degrees cooler than rest of town)
East of I-5 the afternoons can get warmer than I care for but the ocean breeze usually kicks in around 4 or 5 pm and then it is pleasant in most parts of the county
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