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November 2, 2007 at 5:31 PM #95002November 2, 2007 at 5:31 PM #95011snailParticipant
hipmatt,
you are joking about the $800/monthly utility right??! If you don’t, what is the size of the house that required this much?November 2, 2007 at 5:31 PM #95013snailParticipanthipmatt,
you are joking about the $800/monthly utility right??! If you don’t, what is the size of the house that required this much?November 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM #94992bearvineParticipantStay in Irvine Arches…
We moved from OC to Temecula to pursue the big house dream in 2001, for awhile it was great as the commute for me back to Irvine wasn’t bad as I could time my drive. But as the homes started popping up everywhere, the commute became impossible no matter what time of day.
I’ve posted before that if one could work and live in Temecula that it is a nice community. Family oriented, decent schools, golf everywhere, wineries, not quite as hot, and Pechanga is nice.
On the other hand Pechanga can be a trap for many, the sunny attitudes are changing as the equity line atm is empty, it is too hot in the summer to do anything ($300-500 in the summer for 3500sq ft) schools do not compare to Irvine (there is much more to a school than the api) and the wineries get old.
The lifestyle in Irvine BLOWS away Temecula.
As we played the house moving up game we were planning on buying one of the beauties in Morgan Hill by McMillin, and with a good down and decent loan we were still looking at over $5g’s month, even after the tax break.
Said bye bye, and decided to go decadent in Irvine, renting a 3500 sq ft home, on top of a hill, far better upgrades than any home in Temecula, where neighbors are trying to sell for $2m+, and am paying $5g a month in rent.
Now I realize one may say paying that much in rent is ridiculous, but my employer is paying 60% of it for a year so what the heck.
Bottom line, wherever you are right now, RENT.
November 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM #95048bearvineParticipantStay in Irvine Arches…
We moved from OC to Temecula to pursue the big house dream in 2001, for awhile it was great as the commute for me back to Irvine wasn’t bad as I could time my drive. But as the homes started popping up everywhere, the commute became impossible no matter what time of day.
I’ve posted before that if one could work and live in Temecula that it is a nice community. Family oriented, decent schools, golf everywhere, wineries, not quite as hot, and Pechanga is nice.
On the other hand Pechanga can be a trap for many, the sunny attitudes are changing as the equity line atm is empty, it is too hot in the summer to do anything ($300-500 in the summer for 3500sq ft) schools do not compare to Irvine (there is much more to a school than the api) and the wineries get old.
The lifestyle in Irvine BLOWS away Temecula.
As we played the house moving up game we were planning on buying one of the beauties in Morgan Hill by McMillin, and with a good down and decent loan we were still looking at over $5g’s month, even after the tax break.
Said bye bye, and decided to go decadent in Irvine, renting a 3500 sq ft home, on top of a hill, far better upgrades than any home in Temecula, where neighbors are trying to sell for $2m+, and am paying $5g a month in rent.
Now I realize one may say paying that much in rent is ridiculous, but my employer is paying 60% of it for a year so what the heck.
Bottom line, wherever you are right now, RENT.
November 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM #95054bearvineParticipantStay in Irvine Arches…
We moved from OC to Temecula to pursue the big house dream in 2001, for awhile it was great as the commute for me back to Irvine wasn’t bad as I could time my drive. But as the homes started popping up everywhere, the commute became impossible no matter what time of day.
I’ve posted before that if one could work and live in Temecula that it is a nice community. Family oriented, decent schools, golf everywhere, wineries, not quite as hot, and Pechanga is nice.
On the other hand Pechanga can be a trap for many, the sunny attitudes are changing as the equity line atm is empty, it is too hot in the summer to do anything ($300-500 in the summer for 3500sq ft) schools do not compare to Irvine (there is much more to a school than the api) and the wineries get old.
The lifestyle in Irvine BLOWS away Temecula.
As we played the house moving up game we were planning on buying one of the beauties in Morgan Hill by McMillin, and with a good down and decent loan we were still looking at over $5g’s month, even after the tax break.
Said bye bye, and decided to go decadent in Irvine, renting a 3500 sq ft home, on top of a hill, far better upgrades than any home in Temecula, where neighbors are trying to sell for $2m+, and am paying $5g a month in rent.
Now I realize one may say paying that much in rent is ridiculous, but my employer is paying 60% of it for a year so what the heck.
Bottom line, wherever you are right now, RENT.
November 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM #95059bearvineParticipantStay in Irvine Arches…
We moved from OC to Temecula to pursue the big house dream in 2001, for awhile it was great as the commute for me back to Irvine wasn’t bad as I could time my drive. But as the homes started popping up everywhere, the commute became impossible no matter what time of day.
I’ve posted before that if one could work and live in Temecula that it is a nice community. Family oriented, decent schools, golf everywhere, wineries, not quite as hot, and Pechanga is nice.
On the other hand Pechanga can be a trap for many, the sunny attitudes are changing as the equity line atm is empty, it is too hot in the summer to do anything ($300-500 in the summer for 3500sq ft) schools do not compare to Irvine (there is much more to a school than the api) and the wineries get old.
The lifestyle in Irvine BLOWS away Temecula.
As we played the house moving up game we were planning on buying one of the beauties in Morgan Hill by McMillin, and with a good down and decent loan we were still looking at over $5g’s month, even after the tax break.
Said bye bye, and decided to go decadent in Irvine, renting a 3500 sq ft home, on top of a hill, far better upgrades than any home in Temecula, where neighbors are trying to sell for $2m+, and am paying $5g a month in rent.
Now I realize one may say paying that much in rent is ridiculous, but my employer is paying 60% of it for a year so what the heck.
Bottom line, wherever you are right now, RENT.
November 2, 2007 at 10:14 PM #95000temeculaguyParticipantsnail, it’s just a preference thing for me because I commute South, if you work North, Harveston would be the pick. There are richer places and places with land for horses or grapes but my preferences are just my preferences and I definately have a “type” of neighborhood in mind. At least I acknowledge that I have a problem. I wan’t an HOA, continuity and the knowledge that Christmas lights will only be up around Christmas and than in ten years the neighborhood will still look great. Despite what town you are in there are low, medium and high end neighborhoods. Ten years later the low and the meduim never hold up as well as the high, even if it is the smallest house in the high end and cost what the largest house in the low did, it just looks better to me ten years later. Both sides of highway 79S have great neighborhoods, Paloma, Redhawk and Vintage Hills are the oldest and still look great. Morgan, Crowne, paseo and Wolf followed the same formula so should end up looking great through the years. Paloma has much smaller homes with a few exceptions and the 1300-1700 sq ft tracts end up with a large percentage of rentals or too many cars on the street because the garages are needed for living space and storage but the problems are few and it still is holding up very well and much better than Vail, so if you want something smaller, that is a good way to go. The casino traffic doesn’t mirror commuter traffic and is only on two streets so for me it is the least trafficky of the offramps and the Rainbow exit for those coming from S.D. county is a breeze. I have learned the Casino traffic patterns and use other routes at those times. The weather is better and if you don’t have a pool the electricity will run you about 300-400 for that 3500 sq ft running the air all the time, with a pool you will break 500 especially if it is older and has a less efficient system. On the plus side, water is chep here, as is natural gas, combined about 100 a month for your mcmansion.
The reason i prefer the south (and i’ve lived all over the valley in the last 20 years) is that they keep building North and East so it keeps getting worse while the South remains tolerable traffic wise and there is no more land to develop south of redhawk except a few fill in areas but nothing significant. Others may disagree but I drive all over the 79 corridor just fine but when I have to make my Costco trip I take along blood pressure medication. Don’t discount Morgan just yet, if it gets annexed the taxes will go down and the services will go up, it has a resort-like pool and some high quality homes, it just has a lot of brown lawns right now but if you can get one next year for a song, it will return to it’s glory.
Arches, I just saw Bear’s post before hitting the post button, if you plan to commute, forget it. You should also rent anytime you move to an entirely different community to see if it is for you. While this may look like a replica of an O.C. burb, it isn’t one and it has a different tempo. I don’t agree that the Irvine lifestyle “Blows away” anything, including the Modesto lifestyle or the Bakersfield lifestyle, but that is truly up to the individual and for bear, he missed what he was comfortable with, don’t make the same mistake. Personally I enjoy it here and the lifestyle blowing away O.C. has way to high of an implant ratio for me, sure I’ve had the silicon vs. saline discussion with my buddies at nauseum but OEM still reigns supreme with me and i’m more comfortable in a 50/50 (bolt on vs OEM) environment. We have our desperate housewives of Orange county ex patriots but they aren’t the dominant demographic just yet. And you thought I wouldn’t eventually boil down my analysis to something chep and tawdry, Ha, Never, I have my fans to consider.
November 2, 2007 at 10:14 PM #95056temeculaguyParticipantsnail, it’s just a preference thing for me because I commute South, if you work North, Harveston would be the pick. There are richer places and places with land for horses or grapes but my preferences are just my preferences and I definately have a “type” of neighborhood in mind. At least I acknowledge that I have a problem. I wan’t an HOA, continuity and the knowledge that Christmas lights will only be up around Christmas and than in ten years the neighborhood will still look great. Despite what town you are in there are low, medium and high end neighborhoods. Ten years later the low and the meduim never hold up as well as the high, even if it is the smallest house in the high end and cost what the largest house in the low did, it just looks better to me ten years later. Both sides of highway 79S have great neighborhoods, Paloma, Redhawk and Vintage Hills are the oldest and still look great. Morgan, Crowne, paseo and Wolf followed the same formula so should end up looking great through the years. Paloma has much smaller homes with a few exceptions and the 1300-1700 sq ft tracts end up with a large percentage of rentals or too many cars on the street because the garages are needed for living space and storage but the problems are few and it still is holding up very well and much better than Vail, so if you want something smaller, that is a good way to go. The casino traffic doesn’t mirror commuter traffic and is only on two streets so for me it is the least trafficky of the offramps and the Rainbow exit for those coming from S.D. county is a breeze. I have learned the Casino traffic patterns and use other routes at those times. The weather is better and if you don’t have a pool the electricity will run you about 300-400 for that 3500 sq ft running the air all the time, with a pool you will break 500 especially if it is older and has a less efficient system. On the plus side, water is chep here, as is natural gas, combined about 100 a month for your mcmansion.
The reason i prefer the south (and i’ve lived all over the valley in the last 20 years) is that they keep building North and East so it keeps getting worse while the South remains tolerable traffic wise and there is no more land to develop south of redhawk except a few fill in areas but nothing significant. Others may disagree but I drive all over the 79 corridor just fine but when I have to make my Costco trip I take along blood pressure medication. Don’t discount Morgan just yet, if it gets annexed the taxes will go down and the services will go up, it has a resort-like pool and some high quality homes, it just has a lot of brown lawns right now but if you can get one next year for a song, it will return to it’s glory.
Arches, I just saw Bear’s post before hitting the post button, if you plan to commute, forget it. You should also rent anytime you move to an entirely different community to see if it is for you. While this may look like a replica of an O.C. burb, it isn’t one and it has a different tempo. I don’t agree that the Irvine lifestyle “Blows away” anything, including the Modesto lifestyle or the Bakersfield lifestyle, but that is truly up to the individual and for bear, he missed what he was comfortable with, don’t make the same mistake. Personally I enjoy it here and the lifestyle blowing away O.C. has way to high of an implant ratio for me, sure I’ve had the silicon vs. saline discussion with my buddies at nauseum but OEM still reigns supreme with me and i’m more comfortable in a 50/50 (bolt on vs OEM) environment. We have our desperate housewives of Orange county ex patriots but they aren’t the dominant demographic just yet. And you thought I wouldn’t eventually boil down my analysis to something chep and tawdry, Ha, Never, I have my fans to consider.
November 2, 2007 at 10:14 PM #95062temeculaguyParticipantsnail, it’s just a preference thing for me because I commute South, if you work North, Harveston would be the pick. There are richer places and places with land for horses or grapes but my preferences are just my preferences and I definately have a “type” of neighborhood in mind. At least I acknowledge that I have a problem. I wan’t an HOA, continuity and the knowledge that Christmas lights will only be up around Christmas and than in ten years the neighborhood will still look great. Despite what town you are in there are low, medium and high end neighborhoods. Ten years later the low and the meduim never hold up as well as the high, even if it is the smallest house in the high end and cost what the largest house in the low did, it just looks better to me ten years later. Both sides of highway 79S have great neighborhoods, Paloma, Redhawk and Vintage Hills are the oldest and still look great. Morgan, Crowne, paseo and Wolf followed the same formula so should end up looking great through the years. Paloma has much smaller homes with a few exceptions and the 1300-1700 sq ft tracts end up with a large percentage of rentals or too many cars on the street because the garages are needed for living space and storage but the problems are few and it still is holding up very well and much better than Vail, so if you want something smaller, that is a good way to go. The casino traffic doesn’t mirror commuter traffic and is only on two streets so for me it is the least trafficky of the offramps and the Rainbow exit for those coming from S.D. county is a breeze. I have learned the Casino traffic patterns and use other routes at those times. The weather is better and if you don’t have a pool the electricity will run you about 300-400 for that 3500 sq ft running the air all the time, with a pool you will break 500 especially if it is older and has a less efficient system. On the plus side, water is chep here, as is natural gas, combined about 100 a month for your mcmansion.
The reason i prefer the south (and i’ve lived all over the valley in the last 20 years) is that they keep building North and East so it keeps getting worse while the South remains tolerable traffic wise and there is no more land to develop south of redhawk except a few fill in areas but nothing significant. Others may disagree but I drive all over the 79 corridor just fine but when I have to make my Costco trip I take along blood pressure medication. Don’t discount Morgan just yet, if it gets annexed the taxes will go down and the services will go up, it has a resort-like pool and some high quality homes, it just has a lot of brown lawns right now but if you can get one next year for a song, it will return to it’s glory.
Arches, I just saw Bear’s post before hitting the post button, if you plan to commute, forget it. You should also rent anytime you move to an entirely different community to see if it is for you. While this may look like a replica of an O.C. burb, it isn’t one and it has a different tempo. I don’t agree that the Irvine lifestyle “Blows away” anything, including the Modesto lifestyle or the Bakersfield lifestyle, but that is truly up to the individual and for bear, he missed what he was comfortable with, don’t make the same mistake. Personally I enjoy it here and the lifestyle blowing away O.C. has way to high of an implant ratio for me, sure I’ve had the silicon vs. saline discussion with my buddies at nauseum but OEM still reigns supreme with me and i’m more comfortable in a 50/50 (bolt on vs OEM) environment. We have our desperate housewives of Orange county ex patriots but they aren’t the dominant demographic just yet. And you thought I wouldn’t eventually boil down my analysis to something chep and tawdry, Ha, Never, I have my fans to consider.
November 2, 2007 at 10:14 PM #95068temeculaguyParticipantsnail, it’s just a preference thing for me because I commute South, if you work North, Harveston would be the pick. There are richer places and places with land for horses or grapes but my preferences are just my preferences and I definately have a “type” of neighborhood in mind. At least I acknowledge that I have a problem. I wan’t an HOA, continuity and the knowledge that Christmas lights will only be up around Christmas and than in ten years the neighborhood will still look great. Despite what town you are in there are low, medium and high end neighborhoods. Ten years later the low and the meduim never hold up as well as the high, even if it is the smallest house in the high end and cost what the largest house in the low did, it just looks better to me ten years later. Both sides of highway 79S have great neighborhoods, Paloma, Redhawk and Vintage Hills are the oldest and still look great. Morgan, Crowne, paseo and Wolf followed the same formula so should end up looking great through the years. Paloma has much smaller homes with a few exceptions and the 1300-1700 sq ft tracts end up with a large percentage of rentals or too many cars on the street because the garages are needed for living space and storage but the problems are few and it still is holding up very well and much better than Vail, so if you want something smaller, that is a good way to go. The casino traffic doesn’t mirror commuter traffic and is only on two streets so for me it is the least trafficky of the offramps and the Rainbow exit for those coming from S.D. county is a breeze. I have learned the Casino traffic patterns and use other routes at those times. The weather is better and if you don’t have a pool the electricity will run you about 300-400 for that 3500 sq ft running the air all the time, with a pool you will break 500 especially if it is older and has a less efficient system. On the plus side, water is chep here, as is natural gas, combined about 100 a month for your mcmansion.
The reason i prefer the south (and i’ve lived all over the valley in the last 20 years) is that they keep building North and East so it keeps getting worse while the South remains tolerable traffic wise and there is no more land to develop south of redhawk except a few fill in areas but nothing significant. Others may disagree but I drive all over the 79 corridor just fine but when I have to make my Costco trip I take along blood pressure medication. Don’t discount Morgan just yet, if it gets annexed the taxes will go down and the services will go up, it has a resort-like pool and some high quality homes, it just has a lot of brown lawns right now but if you can get one next year for a song, it will return to it’s glory.
Arches, I just saw Bear’s post before hitting the post button, if you plan to commute, forget it. You should also rent anytime you move to an entirely different community to see if it is for you. While this may look like a replica of an O.C. burb, it isn’t one and it has a different tempo. I don’t agree that the Irvine lifestyle “Blows away” anything, including the Modesto lifestyle or the Bakersfield lifestyle, but that is truly up to the individual and for bear, he missed what he was comfortable with, don’t make the same mistake. Personally I enjoy it here and the lifestyle blowing away O.C. has way to high of an implant ratio for me, sure I’ve had the silicon vs. saline discussion with my buddies at nauseum but OEM still reigns supreme with me and i’m more comfortable in a 50/50 (bolt on vs OEM) environment. We have our desperate housewives of Orange county ex patriots but they aren’t the dominant demographic just yet. And you thought I wouldn’t eventually boil down my analysis to something chep and tawdry, Ha, Never, I have my fans to consider.
November 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM #95007temeculaguyParticipantI should have ended my last post far earlier, apologies to all but i still have to add one more thing. “the wineries get old,” what planet are you on bear? Football, oral sex, nachos and wineries are the four things in the universe that never get old. C’mon, alcohol, women outnumber men, intelligent conversation, beautiful scenery, great people, good food. If I were to die tomorrow and found out that heaven was the wine country I would be very dissapointed for spending my life sinning and finding myself without an admission ticket. Hopefully it will be a replica of o.c. and i won’t be so dissapointed i am missing it. Sorry to take a stab at you bear but thems fighting words and admittedly they had Mount veeder cab at costco for under $12 so my bravado had been influenced by drink once again, I apologize in advance.
November 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM #95064temeculaguyParticipantI should have ended my last post far earlier, apologies to all but i still have to add one more thing. “the wineries get old,” what planet are you on bear? Football, oral sex, nachos and wineries are the four things in the universe that never get old. C’mon, alcohol, women outnumber men, intelligent conversation, beautiful scenery, great people, good food. If I were to die tomorrow and found out that heaven was the wine country I would be very dissapointed for spending my life sinning and finding myself without an admission ticket. Hopefully it will be a replica of o.c. and i won’t be so dissapointed i am missing it. Sorry to take a stab at you bear but thems fighting words and admittedly they had Mount veeder cab at costco for under $12 so my bravado had been influenced by drink once again, I apologize in advance.
November 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM #95069temeculaguyParticipantI should have ended my last post far earlier, apologies to all but i still have to add one more thing. “the wineries get old,” what planet are you on bear? Football, oral sex, nachos and wineries are the four things in the universe that never get old. C’mon, alcohol, women outnumber men, intelligent conversation, beautiful scenery, great people, good food. If I were to die tomorrow and found out that heaven was the wine country I would be very dissapointed for spending my life sinning and finding myself without an admission ticket. Hopefully it will be a replica of o.c. and i won’t be so dissapointed i am missing it. Sorry to take a stab at you bear but thems fighting words and admittedly they had Mount veeder cab at costco for under $12 so my bravado had been influenced by drink once again, I apologize in advance.
November 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM #95076temeculaguyParticipantI should have ended my last post far earlier, apologies to all but i still have to add one more thing. “the wineries get old,” what planet are you on bear? Football, oral sex, nachos and wineries are the four things in the universe that never get old. C’mon, alcohol, women outnumber men, intelligent conversation, beautiful scenery, great people, good food. If I were to die tomorrow and found out that heaven was the wine country I would be very dissapointed for spending my life sinning and finding myself without an admission ticket. Hopefully it will be a replica of o.c. and i won’t be so dissapointed i am missing it. Sorry to take a stab at you bear but thems fighting words and admittedly they had Mount veeder cab at costco for under $12 so my bravado had been influenced by drink once again, I apologize in advance.
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