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October 15, 2016 at 2:01 PM #802329October 15, 2016 at 2:03 PM #802330
ucodegen
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]it might get boring be rich.
maybe its fun to slum it in 1st class. hang with the plebes.
at a certain point, if you efficiently monetixed every waking moment youd do almost nothing, it wouldnt be worth it. why take a walk in central park? too expensive, too costly.[/quote]
Looks like you don’t understand the concept. Doing nothing also costs money. It is the time that passes that matters, whether walking in central park, waiting on a plane or doing nothing. The question is; what do you get for the time spent.That means; if you need to get from point A to B – do you
1) Choose commercial, wait in line – nearly 2 hours, potentially being mobbed by people who want you to lend money for what ever scheme they have in mind, deal with people who must appear to know you, etc. Deal with waiting at baggage claim and yet more people.2) Fly private for significantly more money, but all the time spent is all time in the air. You are also able to work on the plane if need be. Embarking and disembarking is quick.
I remember the few times I flew private (Corporate sponsored). One time was from San Diego to Nellis AFB. Total flight time about 40min. Virtually no time spent waiting on the ground. If I was going commercial, it would have been approx 4 hours total.
By the way, hanging with the plebes is not what you think when a person is crazy rich. People change in the presence of that much money.
October 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM #802331Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]A list of snarky reasons, repeating Trump’s brag about his networth, the claim the makes 10% return, just sitting on his fat ass, as reasons Trump is too good to fly commercial, except he did.
The fat ass part was my comment, but I’m speaking in the tell-it-like-it-is vernacular known to Trump land.
I’ll let readers decide if that wasn’t kissass to money.
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There was no claim that Trump makes 10%. Warren Buffet expects a minimum of 10% return on his loans like the one he did to Goldman Sachs. I was using it as a reasonable basis to estimate returns on invested net worth. Even at 5% return on invested net worth, the amount of money that would be wasted on time at the terminal is crazy. 5% is reasonably easy to get.The fact that he flew commercial has only been established by a person of questionable voracity.
October 15, 2016 at 2:09 PM #802332njtosd
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October 15, 2016 at 2:22 PM #802333Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]ucodegen,
You were so certain before. Now you need to dig more.
Trump put forward the witness in the NY Post, no less. That is tacit admission by Trump that he was on the plane. The character of the witness is relevant, but not to the fact that Trump was on the plane.Trump camp puts forward witness to refute sex assault claim
In an exclusive interview arranged by the campaign, Gilberthorpe said he was on the flight — in either 1980 or 1981— where Jessica Leeds
http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/%5B/quote%5D
The correct statement is:Donald Trump’s campaign says a British man is countering claims that the GOP presidential nominee groped a woman on a cross-country flight more than three decades ago.
Which is a stretch from “Trump camp puts forward..” The line “Trump camp puts forward witness to refute sex assault claim” is from article editors. An statement which is not supported by content in the articles. Even democraticunderground.com is stating “Donald Trump’s campaign says a British man is countering claims..” though the byline says “Trump camp puts forward witness to refute sex assault claim”
Basically Trump’s campaign is saying that this person here disagrees with Leeds’ claim.. without taking any position or making any statements themselves as to whether he was on the plane or not, whether he ever met the woman or not. The semantics on the statement are important.
October 15, 2016 at 2:29 PM #802334bearishgurl
Participant[quote=ucodegen] . . . There also seems to be a second issue. Jessica Leeds told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that it was a Braniff International Airways 707 Dallas to NYC 1979. Braniff didn’t have 707 flights on that route, only 727’s and they had the fixed center on first class.
according to: http://gotnews.com/breaking-nytimes-trump-accuser-jessicaleeds-confirmed-liar-cnn-airplane-details/I still want to dig a bit more on the above article because I do have questions due to one of the statements.[/quote]The above article seems to have been well-researched, uco.
I just ran across this piece from the same source.
Could the “plot” be thickening re: Leeds’ claim coming out of the blue at this time . . . after 37 years?
October 15, 2016 at 2:44 PM #802336Participant[quote=ltsdd]Trump owning a private plane in the 70s – early 80s?[/quote]
Yes. A business class jet. Before 1988, he added a Boeing 727.October 15, 2016 at 2:49 PM #802337scaredyclassic
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote=scaredyclassic]it might get boring be rich.
maybe its fun to slum it in 1st class. hang with the plebes.
at a certain point, if you efficiently monetixed every waking moment youd do almost nothing, it wouldnt be worth it. why take a walk in central park? too expensive, too costly.[/quote]
Looks like you don’t understand the concept. Doing nothing also costs money. It is the time that passes that matters, whether walking in central park, waiting on a plane or doing nothing. The question is; what do you get for the time spent.That means; if you need to get from point A to B – do you
1) Choose commercial, wait in line – nearly 2 hours, potentially being mobbed by people who want you to lend money for what ever scheme they have in mind, deal with people who must appear to know you, etc. Deal with waiting at baggage claim and yet more people.2) Fly private for significantly more money, but all the time spent is all time in the air. You are also able to work on the plane if need be. Embarking and disembarking is quick.
I remember the few times I flew private (Corporate sponsored). One time was from San Diego to Nellis AFB. Total flight time about 40min. Virtually no time spent waiting on the ground. If I was going commercial, it would have been approx 4 hours total.
By the way, hanging with the plebes is not what you think when a person is crazy rich. People change in the presence of that much money.[/quote]
was he recognizeably famous back then?
October 15, 2016 at 2:51 PM #802338FlyerInHi
GuestBlah, blah. Trump’s own witness put him on the plane next to Leeds. Trump lied
Gilbertthorpe contacted the Trump campaign. They vetted him and arranged interview with NY Post.
If Fred Trump picked up nails, then Donald flew commercial.
ucodegen, it’s you being awed by money and power.
October 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM #802335Participant[quote=bearishgurl]The above article seems to have been well-researched, uco.
I just ran across this piece from the same source.
Could the “plot” be thickening re: Leeds’ claim coming out of the blue at this time . . . after 37 years?[/quote]
I was kind of surprised by the existence of an old flight schedule. The article did seem to dig up a few ‘correlations’. I think the Trump camp is just sitting on the side (probably with good info like flight logs) letting people literally hang themselves and present themselves as targets for a sue-ball. Flight logs into controlled airspace tend to be backed by the FAA. The sue-ball approach matches his previous behavior.I do know for an ‘um-impeachable fact’ that Trump owned a Boeing 727 in 1988. I might even be able to get a tail number for it. He has also owned the Citation X for a long time.
October 15, 2016 at 2:57 PM #802339Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]
was he recognizeably famous back then?[/quote]
I presume you mean in the 80’s (didn’t want quotes within quotes etc ad-nauseum) Yes.. and probably more ‘attractive’ too. The crazy hair is now hiding some balding.He was on Oprah in 1988: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI
October 15, 2016 at 2:58 PM #802340Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
Gilbertthorpe contacted the Trump campaign. They vetted him and arranged interview with NY Post.
[/quote]Assuming facts not in evidence. Show evidence of vetting and arranging interview.
October 15, 2016 at 3:14 PM #802343Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote=scaredyclassic]
was he recognizeably famous back then?[/quote]
I presume you mean in the 80’s (didn’t want quotes within quotes etc ad-nauseum) Yes.. and probably more ‘attractive’ too. The crazy hair is now hiding some balding.He was on Oprah in 1988: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI
In 1980: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-w47wgdhso%5B/quote%5D
79, 80 looks like he was pretty anonymous still. just getting started on putting his face everywhere…
October 15, 2016 at 3:16 PM #802341Participantbill cosby flew commercial. he was pretty rich.
he did standup on drugging women.
he met a chick onboard and later raped her. allegedly
October 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM #802344outtamojo
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Blah, blah. Trump’s own witness put him on the plane next to Leeds. Trump lied
Gilbertthorpe contacted the Trump campaign. They vetted him and arranged interview with NY Post.
If Fred Trump picked up nails, then Donald flew commercial.
ucodegen, it’s you being awed by money and power.[/quote]
As soon as we can prove this one wasn’t true we can start working on the other nine ( rolling my eyes). Or does one disprove all others?
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