Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[Anonymous]

[quote=ucodegen][Bizarre attempt to discredit Trump accuser by claiming a certain type of seat could not have existed on any aircraft in 1979][/quote]

Your line of reasoning is beyond WTF.

http://gizmodo.com/trump-supporters-claim-first-class-armrests-couldnt-mov-1787749381

Frankly, it’s a bit depressing that the internet is fighting over armrests in the face of so much other evidence about Donald Trump’s past. Evidence that includes Donald Trump bragging on tape about how he grabs the genitals of women without their permission. But here we are.

Whatever it takes to justify your boy, eh?

[FlyerInHi]

ucodegen,
You were so certain before. Now you need to dig more.
Trump put forward the witness in the NY Post, no less. That is tacit admission by Trump that he was on the plane. The character of the witness is relevant, but not to the fact that Trump was on the plane.

Trump camp puts forward witness to refute sex assault claim
In an exclusive interview arranged by the campaign, Gilberthorpe said he was on the flight — in either 1980 or 1981— where Jessica Leeds
http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

[ltsddd]

Trump owning a private plane in the 70s – early 80s?

[FlyerInHi]

A list of snarky reasons, repeating Trump’s brag about his networth, the claim the makes 10% return, just sitting on his fat ass, as reasons Trump is too good to fly commercial, except he did.

The fat ass part was my comment, but I’m speaking in the tell-it-like-it-is vernacular known to Trump land.

I’ll let readers decide if that wasn’t kissass to money.

[quote=ucodegen]
Big Big problem. The only seats on a plane with the arm that raises like that is in coach. First class, Business first class does not (I’ve flown in both as well as private). When has Trump ever flown coach? When has Trump even ever flown First class or Business first class? He has his own friggin airplane, which happens to be a Boeing 757. Trump also has or has had his own Yacht. If he is paying to maintain a 757, he is NOT going to wait in line etc like the coach riders. At the minimum, if he did not have his own plane – he would contract with independent business flight services like Phoenix Air, Blue Star, JetSuite.. like he did when he flew into Mexico (because the Mex drug lords threatened to blow him out of the sky) https://twitter.com/davemorgannyc/status/771079410078261248/photo/1

Trump fly coach? Riiiiiggghhhtt.. and I’m the tooth fairy.

Here are articles about his plane: (bought 2011).
https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/top-10-facts-about-donald-trumps-boeing

Trump also has a Cessna 750 Citation X (business class jet). The Cessna Citation X is a long range medium size jet with rather large engines. It looks like it is capable of handling short runways. He also has 3 Sikorski S-76B helicopters. Trump has also owned a Boeing 727 in the past. He sold the 727 which was 19yrs old at the time to buy the 757.

As for the claims from the other women, I don’t know… yet. But I know for sure that the airplane episode did not occur. I don’t know if she was coached or invented it herself, but a big mistake was made assuming that he flew like the rest of us. All of these women coming out of the woodwork is suspicious, particularly when the first one makes claims that are easy to check – if one pays attention.

NOTE: He is supposedly worth $11Bil, 10% return on that is $1Bil/year – or using working hours per year of 1980, comes to just over $500,000 per hour. 2 hours waiting in line for boarding would cost $1m of time.[/quote]

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ltsdd]Trump owning a private plane in the 70s – early 80s?[/quote]

Irrelevant. Trump’s campaign put forward a witness and arranged an interview with the witness who put Trump seated on the plane next to Jessica Leeds.

[scaredyclassic]

it might get boring be rich.

maybe its fun to slum it in 1st class. hang with the plebes.

at a certain point, if you efficiently monetixed every waking moment youd do almost nothing, it wouldnt be worth it. why take a walk in central park? too expensive, too costly.

[FlyerInHi]

Monetizing time is a dumb elitist way of bragging and putting down people who make less. I’m surprised the populists don’t see that.

I wonder why Trump’s dad was picking up used nails on construction sites. Weren’t Polish and Irish to do that?

[svelte]

[quote=Blogstar][quote=svelte]Even Republican studies have shown attacking Hillary on her husband, her age, her stamina, her health or her looks does not work.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-bill-clinton-attacks-republicans-229760

And what does Trump choose to emphasize?

His policies? What he’ll do as president? No, he focuses on Hillary’s husband and her health.

A 300 pound doofus.[/quote]

Be careful of the fat shaming.[/quote]

lol, you are right Blog. My mistake, apologies.

I should go high instead of low. 🙂

[svelte]

[quote=ucodegen]
My opinion is that there are too many people trying to get their two minutes of fame in the whole situation.

Considering that Gilberthorpe (who made the claims that he witnessed the whole thing) also made claims that he procured boys for under-aged sex parties for high-ranking British politicians in 2014 – means that your source may be questionable, as well as his statement. I don’t think he could be used to show Trump was innocent by not committing sexual harassment nor that he was even on the plane.
[/quote]

Wait, but wasn’t it the Trump camp that found and presented Gilberthorpe?

So you’re saying the Trump camp supplied a false witness?

Say it ain’t so~! 🙂

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . It outdid BG’s claim that female county employees should give deference to an old slumlord by wearing clothing he would approve.[/quote]FIH, I thought you were smarter than this. Surely you must know that . . . just like casinos do for their “high rollers,” CA County Assessors give deference and “special treatment” to those taxpayers who pay their taxes for multiple (even dozens) of expensive residential, commercial and agricultural parcels often into the hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last week before taxes are considered delinquent (April 10 and December 10), as they should. Would YOU pay $89,742.67 in your total 1st or 2nd installments of property taxes weeks or months before they are delinquent?? Developers and multiple property owners (or their representative) can make a personal appointment with the assessor’s office to pay their taxes and receive individual receipts for each parcel OR drop their entire sheaf of tax bills and corresponding checks to a supervisor and receive an envelope back with their receipts from their multiple processed tax payments. They’re not even charged for return postage, because they would have to hold up the line for 30 minutes to an hour if they were served in line.

Property taxes are the lifeblood of the state, county and city operations in CA! It doesn’t matter how old the taxpayer is. If they’re coming into the assessor’s office to pay big money to the county, then they deserved to be treated with courtesy, respect and professionalism. That doesn’t include being greeted by a gum-chewing, cleavage-baring, tube-skirted, heavily-tattooed and and/or pierced Millenial denizen with matching purple ball earrings from behind the tax collection counter.

Not only has the county and superior court dress code appeared to have obviously been “relaxed” over the years, wait staff grooming standards in (even expensive) restaurants has also been relaxed … especially for females. During my years as a professional food and cocktail waitress, never in a million years was I or my co-workers allowed to: wear our hair down (shedding in food and drinks served); wear dirty uniforms (or with dirty pockets); wear fake fingernails (esp with decals on them); wear large dangling earrings; have visible tattoos, have body and face piercings; have our bare legs showing; wear dark undergarments under light uniforms (esp with straps showing), etc. Female Millenials are now whining all over the interwebz about being “victims” of a prevailing “rape culture” that they themselves perpetuate by the way they dress and come off in public.

This is why I think Greek organizations serve a purpose, especially for a HS graduate out of an urban CA public high school. College freshmen can rush and be chosen into one of these organizations a little “rough around the edges” in every way, shape and form and graduate as a college senior with a long experience of being required to groom it, walk it and talk it with a variety of adults (incl well-known philanthropists and local CEOs) in different professional and social settings. It gives them a window into the world of work after graduation and provides them with valuable contacts for internships and jobs. To a lesser extent, clubs for different majors on campus also accomplish some of these goals but they are not all-encompassing and require the new “pledge” to take an oath of loyalty as well as certain behavior standards.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=svelte][quote=ucodegen]
My opinion is that there are too many people trying to get their two minutes of fame in the whole situation.

Considering that Gilberthorpe (who made the claims that he witnessed the whole thing) also made claims that he procured boys for under-aged sex parties for high-ranking British politicians in 2014 – means that your source may be questionable, as well as his statement. I don’t think he could be used to show Trump was innocent by not committing sexual harassment nor that he was even on the plane.
[/quote]

Wait, but wasn’t it the Trump camp that found and presented Gilberthorpe?

So you’re saying the Trump camp supplied a false witness?

Say it ain’t so~! 🙂

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/
[/quote]No. Gilberthorpe contacted the Trump campaign on his own after he recognized Ms. Leeds photo in the news (holding up a photo of a younger version of herself).

[bearishgurl]

If Gilberthorpe could identify the date (or even the week or month) of the flight, the airline and the time of day it took off (I think he stated it was a Dallas to NYC flight), he would be even more credible. The problem with him is that he is impeachable. That is often the case with good “eyewitnesses.”

[ucodegen]

[quote=harvey][quote=ucodegen][Bizarre attempt to discredit Trump accuser by claiming a certain type of seat could not have existed on any aircraft in 1979][/quote]

Your line of reasoning is beyond WTF.
[/quote]Sorry, but your whole reasoning is beyond WTF. I did not say what you quoted, though I think you wish I had said it that way because it would be easier to attack.

Do proper attribution of quotes not restating in words you wish I said but attributing it to me. Your approach destroys any credibility in what you state.

[ucodegen]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=svelte][quote=ucodegen]
My opinion is that there are too many people trying to get their two minutes of fame in the whole situation.

Considering that Gilberthorpe (who made the claims that he witnessed the whole thing) also made claims that he procured boys for under-aged sex parties for high-ranking British politicians in 2014 – means that your source may be questionable, as well as his statement. I don’t think he could be used to show Trump was innocent by not committing sexual harassment nor that he was even on the plane.
[/quote]

Wait, but wasn’t it the Trump camp that found and presented Gilberthorpe?

So you’re saying the Trump camp supplied a false witness?

Say it ain’t so~! 🙂

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/
[/quote]No. Gilberthorpe contacted the Trump campaign on his own after he recognized Ms. Leeds photo in the news (holding up a photo of a younger version of herself).[/quote]
Have to say it, bearishgurl is right. It is even stated so in the articles by NYPost, etc as well as supposedly by Trump campaign. Maybe you should read the article for content before commenting to avoid foot-in-mouth disease.

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Monetizing time is a dumb elitist way of bragging and putting down people who make less. I’m surprised the populists don’t see that.

I wonder why Trump’s dad was picking up used nails on construction sites. Weren’t Polish and Irish to do that?[/quote]
WRONG. Monetizing time is a way to make decisions to be time and cost effective. I was just revealing the process used by people who have crazy sums of money. Nothing elitist about it. Besides, you did not show any reference stating that ‘Monetizing time’ is a so called elitist way of bragging. I suspect it may be a term you invented yourself because it may show evidence that Trump would not fly commercial for financial reasons.

As for the Polish, Irish comment, are you deciding to be racist now? Discriminating against those two races?

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