Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[scaredyclassic]

https://newrepublic.com/article/100566/jfk-monster

jfk probably loved himilating women and treating them like whores for amusement.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]im excited about the idea of having a penisfree president, personally …

trumps weiner shall be forever shrouded in mystery. or perhaps it will be cut off and sold to.the highest bidder at death.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92126411

have you ever read the strange tale of where napoleons penis went? i guarantee this tale is interesting. i would like to see trumps cock travel a similarly amazing adventure postmortem.[/quote]

That was an interesting audio on napoleon’s penis.

I think trump’s penis is rather small and ugly. Otherwise he would have bragged about it.[/quote]

napoleons penis is thoroughly intriguing

[scaredyclassic]

why did reagan divorce his first wife?

screwing around.

is it possible he occasionally would grab some pussy, as a movie star? i mean, would it be SHOCKING?

at the very least, he was super promiscuous. one can imagine a virile young dude like that making the first, perhaps occasionalky not entirely consensual move.

wasnt that std. hollywood movie style? the virile dude grabs the babe, kisses her against her will, but she realizes her fighting is futile, and so she slowly melts into his kiss, finally passionately submitting to his masculine advance…. old dudes are probably still operating under that dopey narrative.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu-redux]Besides, a pence versus Hillary. Pence definitely won’t win.[/quote]

I hope you’re right. I don’t know what the rules are, but, if possible, the republicans would do well to make the switch just days (or less) before the election. This would deprive the Clinton machine the time necessary to sufficiently spread the word about the vile positions that Pence holds.

edit:

I guess early voting would screw that plan, huh?

Yeah, I think you’re right, flu.[/quote]

It’s a salvage operation at this point for the GOP, imho. At this point, I think they are preparing to save as many House and Senate seats as possible.

There’s no easy way to dance around this issue, and there’s probably more bombshells that tucked away to be used 3 weeks or 2 weeks before the election. The problem is that Trump has become such an unlikeable character that at this point, he’s probably right, almost everyone is out to get him. It’s not democrats, or liberals. It’s anyone that is just appalled at his sack of shit opinions.

The irony is, if at all, Trump has probably created more unity than any other candidate we’ve had in recent times, across party lines and across independents
simply because it seem like enough people across parties don’t want to see him win. For many reasons.And there are many of them.

What’s more surprising it took for this view on women for people to be so shocked and disgusted about Trump. What about all the anti-latino, anti-muslim, anti-foreign rhetoric? Well, I guess finally there’s something that threw the independents and other americans the other way, when previously they didn’t think his racism “wasn’t a big enough deal”.

GOP is in big trouble on the down ticket. To be frank, I feared this would happen. Like I said, I was hoping for a balanced government, I don’t think we will get it for the next 4 years at this point. I can’t say the GOP didn’t deserve this. No one should have backed Trump to begin with. oh well.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]

am i offended by lbj whipping out his cock? no. not really.
its just the same old story. powerful men exercising power.

hillary 2016!!![/quote]

Just for the record – being a flasher/ public indecency is not an exercise of power. It is a psychiatric problem and/or a crime. The fact that he wasn’t arrested may have been a result of his power – but not the act.

I do agree with you that anyone who would want to be President, with all it entails, is crazy.

[svelte]

Should have expected it – you’ve chosen hypocrite!

Trump said he did it – why shouldn’t we believe him? He said he did it regularly!!!

You’re believing other women who have said Bill did this or that, but when Trump says he himself has made unwelcome contact with women, you say he’s just joking! My God!

You are indeed a hypocrite.

[quote=bearishgurl]
[quote=svelte] [quote=bearishgurl]FIH, my opinion on Hill’s fitness for POTUS has nothing to do with “’til death do us part” or even whether Bill and Hill had an agreement to have an open marriage from day one. I don’t even care about that. It’s based upon all the public humiliation over decades that she CHOSE to repeatedly suffer at the hands of Bill and the adverse effect it had on her in every way, shape and form. [/quote]

Well now. You’ve supported Trump because, in your words above, you can’t support someone who let themselves be humiliated repeatedly. again, your words, I don’t agree with the humiliated label.

If that is so, then how on earth can you support someone who does the humiliating? See SK’s quote below.

Trump admits he is hitting on a woman he knows to be married, while his own wife his pregnant! And fingering women, while is wife is pregnant, because he knows he can get away with it! Come on BG, you either have to quit supporting Trump right now or have yourself labeled as the biggest hypocrite ever. [/quote]svelte, you’re more naïve than anyone here would have thought you to be if you actually think all this “locker room talk” represents the actual experience of the speaker, lol…
If you don’t understand the difference between words (especially those said in a joking manner by Donald Trump in an “entertainment industry setting”) and actions (such as those many egregious lewd offenses against women Bill Clinton committed over ~22 years and those criminal and slanderous attacks on women Hillary Clinton committed in the same time frame and after), then I can’t help you and neither than anyone else. You’re beyond help :=0[/quote]

[ltsddd]

Trump probably has never felt this much pressure in his life and probably feels like an an animal backed into a corner. My prediction is he’s going to explode on national TV tonight.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]why did reagan divorce his first wife?

screwing around.

is it possible he occasionally would grab some pussy, as a movie star? i mean, would it be SHOCKING?

at the very least, he was super promiscuous. one can imagine a virile young dude like that making the first, perhaps occasionalky not entirely consensual move.

wasnt that std. hollywood movie style? the virile dude grabs the babe, kisses her against her will, but she realizes her fighting is futile, and so she slowly melts into his kiss, finally passionately submitting to his masculine advance…. old dudes are probably still operating under that dopey narrative.[/quote]

The standards of decades past were different than today’s. that’s actually why people support trump. They want to go back.

Drunk driving was nothing. Now jail and at least $10k in cost. My friend paid for his son.

Because Trump is running today, people are judging his past actions by today’s standards.

[ltsddd]

[quote=bearishgurl]
If you don’t understand the difference between words (especially those said in a joking manner by Donald Trump in an “entertainment industry setting”) [/quote]

bg,
Her name is Nancy O’Dell.

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]

Because Trump is running today, people are judging his past actions by today’s standards.[/quote]

Ten years ago is hardly the ancient past. People are judging his actions ten years ago with the same standards that hold true today.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=svelte][quote=FlyerInHi]

Because Trump is running today, people are judging his past actions by today’s standards.[/quote]

Ten years ago is hardly the ancient past. People are judging his actions ten years ago with the same standards that hold true today.[/quote]

True 10 years ago is inot long.

[Coronita]

“Self righteous hyprocrite”. That’s what trump is spinning now…

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[quote=ltsdd]Trump probably has never felt this much pressure in his life and probably feels like an an animal backed into a corner. My prediction is he’s going to explode on national TV tonight.[/quote]

Not showing today’s debate to my kid. I have a bad feeling about how it is going to go.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=svelte]Should have expected it – you’ve chosen hypocrite!

Trump said he did it – why shouldn’t we believe him? He said he did it regularly!!!

You’re believing other women who have said Bill did this or that, but when Trump says he himself has made unwelcome contact with women, you say he’s just joking! My God!

You are indeed a hypocrite.[/quote]What Trump actually admitted is that he made the statement (ostensibly about O’Dell but he doesn’t mention her full name on the tape) to Bush . . . . essentially that that was his voice on the tape. He DIDN’T admit to ever assaulting women. Once again, you’re mixing up his “male bravado” statements (yes, in poor taste) to another male in private (whom I just learned is the first cousin of Trump’s former political rival, the “low-energy” Jeb Bush … imagine that) with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s criminal actions over many years.

The plot thickens, folks ….

No, I didn’t initially believe all of the things Bill Clinton’s “other women” (and there were many) were saying re: their personal experiences with him. That is, not until I read the accounts of ex-Secret-Service personnel assigned to the Clintons and ex-Clinton advisors and other civil servants assigned to the Clinton AR state capitol as well as the White House. These are people who retired honorably with full pensions who have no axe to grind as they were never disciplined or dismissed from their posts. They are percipient witnesses and even eyewitnesses to all 3 Clinton Administrations who don’t want to die without the truth of how the Clintons operated on a day-to-day basis being known. Their “testimony” (as written) actually corroborates what Bill’s numerous “other women” have said . . . even taking it a bit further by telling what the Clinton(s) (both collectively and Hillary acting on her own) did to intimidate (while surveilling them constantly) and otherwise harass these women, including having one woman’s cat killed and having at least one woman’s tires slashed in her employer’s parking lot. These authors’ personal accounts are good enough for me.

We should all be thankful that these former key faithful public servants of the Clinton Administration were willing to share their personal accounts with the world at the ages of 65 to 85 years old. Without them, the nation would only be privy to whatever became public knowledge during their (yes, their) tenure in public office. We wouldn’t know anything (and still don’t know) about what was successfully covered up by the “Clinton Machine” if the victim and/or key witnesses to the incident are now deceased.

svelte, why don’t you visit Amazon for a new reading list for yourself? You can start on the dozens of fairly easy-reading paperbacks (or kindle-books) on the Clintons on your lunch hours! And while you’re at it, why don’t you poll some other Piggs who may be “Trump Supporters,” since I’ve only officially been a Republican since May 3, 2016 (4 months ago, when I got my voter registration postcard in the mail). There are undoubtedly at least a dozen Piggs who post here either occasionally or semi-regularly that I know of who are likely or fairly likely “Trump supporters.” Why continue to attack ‘lil old me? For “convenience??” And while you’re sitting around trying to figure out who they are, bear in mind that they’re not going to participate heavily in any discussions or polls involving Trump because they read all these attacks against me calling me every name in the book and then some and don’t have time to sit around trying to defend their own political views without being personally lambasted by a very regular cohort of Clinton groupies and/or far-leftist wacko posters on this site who have nothing better to do with their time than attack others online (even with a vengeance) because they perceive their political views to be different from their own. Last time I checked, this was America.

I was under the impression that left/right slapfests were banned on this forum but I guess not for this particular election cycle :=0 And that is actually A-OK. Carry on, folks. I’ll continue to try to help dispel all the ignorance floating around out there in the blogosphere as my time permits :=]

[FlyerInHi]

I would like Trump voters to explain their voting for Trump to their kids. The kids would lose respect and be disappointed in their parents.

To me, voting for Trump is historically equivalent to being against civil rights in the 60s.

Zk, you posted before that Trump is almost like Hitler. Was it not right for Hitler supporters to be marginalized and looked down upon? There was a price to pay.

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